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The 2024 Dead Pool
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12/22/23 11:55 PM
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The 2024 Dead Pool (Our 17th Annual!) GOAL: Predict which notable* figures will die on/between January 1 and December 31, 2024, Eastern Time. Produce a maximum of 50 names, to be PM'ed to me (NOT posted here) before the ball drops in Times Square (NYC) at midnight on New Years (i.e., 12AM ET, January 1, 2024). The BB's default timestamp will determine entry time, but I often post after midnight so the west coast has a little extra time. *It's assumed that all notable figures will have an entry, or be mentioned in an entry, at Google, Wikipedia or another legit source which you may have to prove. Rules:1) PLEASE alphabetize your list of 50 names by LAST name (regardless of profession), either in the form of FIRSTNAME LASTNAME -or- LASTNAME, FIRSTNAME, in *1* column of names. 2) If it's not obvious who the person is for most people, after the name please add why they're notable. For example: "Douglas Fraser, trade unionist" (Sorry, he's already dead). In addition, you may or may not choose to include the person's current age; for example: "Douglas Fraser, trade unionist (91)" 3) If you submit your list days before Midnight, January 1st, 2024, and someone on your list dies before 2024, you should substitute the person with another and resubmit your list (by the deadline). If you do not resubmit your list, and the person died in 2021, the person will obviously NOT count for 2024. 4) a) Thou Shalt Not Kill (anyone on your list); b) criminals subject to the Death Penalty or anyone kidnapped or held hostage in 2023 won't count -- unless they die of natural causes; c) "Dead" means permanently dead, not later revived, nor put in animated suspension, or any induced or natural coma starting before 2024 begins; d) do not edit Wikipedia with false death information. Everyone's lists will be updated unofficially throughout the year, but year-end audits should be performed to determine the final winner sometime shortly after December 31, 2024. YOU are responsible for your own audit at years' end.(The next post will contain all participants' lists for easy reference, sometime on Jan 1st) Prize: Bragging Rights for 12 months. Past Winners:2023 - XDXC (12) 2022 - BAM (13) 2021 - XDXC (20!) 2020 - Don Marco (15) 2019 - SC (9) / Don Marco (9) 2018 - Mignon (14) 2017 - Don Marco (15) 2016 - SC (17) 2015 - Sr Vitelli (12) 2014 - SC (15) 2013 - DE NIRO (9) 2012 - SC (14) 2011 - Mignon (10) 2010 - SC (11) 2009 - JG (12) 2008 - JG (12) Quick Link: Deaths in 2023 (wikipedia)Quick Link: Deaths in 2024 (wikipedia)
Last edited by J Geoff; 01/01/24 03:22 PM.
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: The 2024 Dead Pool
[Re: J Geoff]
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12/22/23 11:56 PM
12/22/23 11:56 PM
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2024 GBB Dead Pool Entries
SC (RIP)(1)
1 Alan, Alda 2 3 4 5 6 Brooks, Mel 7 8 Carter, Jimmy 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 Eastwood, Clint 18 19 Erskine, Carl 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 Lockhart, June 28 29 30 MacLaine, Shirley 31 32 Mays, Willie 33 34 35 36 Murdock, Rupert 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 Van Dyke, Dick 49 50
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JG (4)
Akihito, Jap. Emperor (90) Buzz Aldrin, astronaut (93) David Attenborough, broadcaster (97) Stanley Baxter, actor (97) Tom Brokaw, journalist (83) Mel Brooks, actor/director (97) Jimmy Carter, 39th president (99) Cher, singer (77) Tommy Chong, pothead (85) Bill Clinton, 42nd president (77) Roger Corman, director/producer (97) Tim Curry, actor (77) Shannen Doherty, actress (52) Kitty Dukakis, Michael's wife (87) Robert Duvall, actor (92) Clint Eastwood, actor (94) Morgan Freeman, actor (86) Leif Garrett, singer (62) Alan Greenspan, economist (98) Gene Hackman, actor (93) Kim Jong-un, dictator (39) Walter Koenig, Chekov (87) Kris Kristofferson, singer (87) Artie Lang, Comedian (56) Lindsay Lohan, "actress" (37) Courtney Love, Hole (59) Joan Lunden, journalist (73) Imelda Marcos, shoe lover (95) Eva Marie Saint, actress (99) Bret Michaels, Poison (60) Morrisey, singer (64) Rupert Murdoch, media mogul (92) Willie Nelson, singer (91) Bob Newhart, actor (95) Yoko Ono, John's wife (90) Joyce Randolph, Honeymooner (99) Keith Richards, eternal (80) Dennis Rodman, B-Baller (62) Linda Ronstadt, singer (77) Doc Severinsen, trumpeter (96) Charlie Sheen, winning tiger (58) Randy Travis, Country singer (64) Ted Turner, mogul (86) Dick Van Dyke (98) Robert Wagner, actor (93) Lil Wayne, rapper (41) Harvey Weinstein, scumbag (71) John Williams, composer (91) Montel Williams, TV host (67) Ron Wood, Rolling Stone (76)
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XDXC (11)
1. Buzz Aldrin (astronaut, 92) 2. Ray Anthony (bandleader, 101) 3. Iris Apfel (businesswoman, 102) 4. George Argyros (real estate investor, 86) 5. David Attenborough (Brit broadcaster, 97) 6. Joe Biden (46th and current POTUS, 81) 7. Selma Blair (actress, 51) 8. Mel Brooks (director/actor, 97) 9. Jimmy Carter (39th POTUS, 99) 10. Dick Cheney (former VPOTUS, 82) 11. Roger Corman (director, 97) 12. Bill Cosby (actor/comedian, 86) 13. William Daniels (actor, 96) 14. Shannen Doherty (actress, 52) 15. Clint Eastwood (actor/director, 93) 16. Bob Eubanks (Rose Parade guy, 85) 17. Jane Fonda (actress, 86) 18. Michael J. Fox (actor, 62) 19. Morgan Freeman (actor, 86) 20. Yvonne Furneaux (actress, 95) 21. Lee Grant (actress, 98) 22. Alan Greenspan (economist, 97) 23. Gene Hackman (actor, 93) 24. Glynis Johns (actress, 100) 25. Val Kilmer (actor, 64) 26. June Lockhart (actress, 98) 27. Lisa Lu (actress, 96) 28. Caren Marsh-Doll (actress, 104) 29. Peter Marshall (game show host, 97) 30. Willie Mays (baseball player, 92) 31. Steve "Mongo" McMichael (frmr athlete, 66) 32. Maria Branyas Morera (oldest person, 116) 33. Rupert Murdoch (businessman, 92) 34. Bob Newhart (actor, 94) 35. Yoko Ono (musician, 90) 36. Janis Paige (actress, 101) 37. Jack Rader (actor, 102) 38. Joyce Randolph (actress, 99) 39. Keith Richards (musician, 81) 40. Eva Marie Saint (actress, 99) 41. William Shatner (actor, 92) 42. Gene Shalit (critic, 97) 43. O. J. Simpson (football player, 76) 44. Donald Sutherland (actor, 88) 45. Donald Trump (45th POTUS, 77) 46. Dick Van Dyke (actor/comedian, 98) 47. Elisabeth Waldo (violinist, 105) 48. Tionne "T-Boz" Watkins (singer, 53) 49. Jacqueline White (actress, 101) 50. Ye (Kanye West) (rapper, 46)
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BAM (6)
Aldrin, Buzz-93 Astin, John-93 Attenborough, David-97 Baer Jr, Max-86 Brooks, Mel-97 Caine, Michael-90 Carter, Jimmy-99 Cheney, Dick-82 Collins, Phil-72 Corman, Roger-97 Cosby, Bill-86 Curry, Tim-77 Doherty, Shannen-52 Duvall, Shelley-74 Dyke Van, Dick-98 Fox J, Michael-62 Glitter, Gary-79 Hackman, Gene-93 Hedrin, Tippi-93 Hogan, Paul-84 Jones Earl, James-92 Kennedy, Ethel-95 Kilmer, Val-64 King, Stephen-76 Kristofferson, Kris-87 Lazenby, George-84 Lockhart, June-98 Majors, Lee-84 Minnelli, Liza-77 Murdoch, Rupert-92 Neil, Sam-76 Newhart, Bob-94 Newmar, Julie-90 Nicholson, Jack-86 Ono, Yoko-90 Osbourne, Ozzy-75 Parsons, Estelle-96 Petty, Richard-86 Putin, Vladimir-71 Randolph, Joyce-99 Redford, Robert-87 Saint, Eva Marie-99 Simpson, O.J-76 Smith, Patti-76 Stone- Oliver-77 Turner, Ted-85 Wagner, Robert-93 West-Kanye-46 Williams, John-91 Willis, Bruce-68
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DE NIRO (3)
1 Aldrin, Buzz (Astronaut) 2 Attenborough, David (naturalist) 3 Bardot,Briggite (Actress) 4 Baker, Tom (Actor) 5 Baxter Stanley (Comedian) 6 Branyas Marie (Super-Centenarian) 7 Brooks Mel (Actor) 8 Carter,Jimmy (Former President) 9 Cheney, Dick (Politician) 10 Chubby Checker (Singer) 11 Connolly Billy (Comedian) 12 Chomsky Noam (Intellectual) 13 Dion (Singer) 14 Duane Eddy (Musician) 15 Eastwood, Clint(Actor) 16 Francis,Connie (Singer) 17 Flack, Roberta (Singer) 18 Fox, Michael J (Actor) 19 Gall Sandy (Ex Journalist) 20 Gascoigne Paul (Footballer) 21 Gordy, Berry (Music Producer) 22 Greenspan Alan (Economist) 23 Hackman Gene (Actor) 24 Heseltine, Michael (Politician) 25 Jones.Earl James (Actor) 26 Kennedy, Ethel (advocate) 27 Kristofferson, Kris (Singer) 28 Law Denis (Ex Footballer) 29 Le-Pen Jean Marie (French Neo Nazi) 30 Murdoch, Rupert (media mogul) 31 Nelson Willie (Singer/Songwriter) 32 Nicol Jimmie (Stand in Beatle) 33 Nolan Linda (Ex Nolan Sister) 34 O'Farrell, Frank (Ex Football Mgr) 35 Ono Yoko (Mrs Lennon) 36 Piggott Lester (Jockey) 37 Pruett,Jeanne (Singer) 38 Richards, Keith( Rolling Stone) 39 Rogers Julie (Singer) 40 Scales, Prunella (Actress) 41 Sedaka, Neil (Singer) 42 Sheen, Charlie (Actor) 43 Sinatra ,Nancy (US Singer) 44 Smith Maggie (Actress) 45 Starr, Ringo (Beatle) 46 Van Dyke, Dick (American Actor) 47 Wagner,Robert (Actor) 48 Whale James (Broadcaster) 49 Wilson, Brian (Beach Boy) 50 Woodward Joanne (Actress)
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MIKEY_SUNSET (2)
1. Aldrin, Buzz 2. Attenborough, David 3. Baker, Colson (Machine Gun Kelly) 4. Bankman-Fried, Sam 5. Brooks, Mel (Melvin Kaminsky) 6. Burdon, Eric 7. Cardinale, Claudia 8. Carter, Jimmy 9. Chianese, Dominic 10. Clark, Petula 11. Collins, Phil 12. Corman, Roger 13. Davidson, Pete 14. Di'Anno, Paul - Iron Maiden 15. Dickinson, Angie 16. Durst, Will – Comic 17. Farr, Jamie 18. Garr, Teri 19. Guy, Buddy 20. Hogan, Paul 21. Hughes, Jesse 22. Hurd, Trevor (Crip Mac) 23. Kilmer, Val 24. Kopell, Bernie 25. Lange, Artie 26. Lee, Ruta 27. Lockhart, June 28. Maxwell, Ghislaine 29. Mayall, John - Musician 30. McKellen, Sir Ian 31. Minnelli, Liza 32. Miret, Roger - Agnostic Front 33. Mitchell, Joni 34. Newhart, Bob 35. Nicholson, Jack 36. Ono, Yoko 37. Richardson Dandridge, Gloria 38. Ronstadt, Linda 39. Saint, Eva Marie 40. Scales, Prunella – Actress 41. Smith, Maggie 42. Van Doran, Mamie 43. Van Dyke, Dick 44. Walken, Christopher 45. Ward, Bill - Black Sabbath 46. Westheimer, Ruth 47. Williamson, Fred 48. Willis, Bruce 49. Woodward, Joanne 50. Wyman, Bill (Perks, Wm George Jr)
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SIGNOR VITELLI (3)
1. Ames, Ed 2. 3. 4. Carter, Jimmy 5. Chakiris, George 6. Cheney, Dick 7. Chong, Tommy 8. Eden, Barbara 9. 10. Elliott, Ramblin’ Jack 11. Farrakhan, Louis 12. Feiffer, Jules 13. Gallagher, Helen 14. Gaynor, Mitzi 15. 16. 17. Grey, Joel 18. Hackman, Gene 19. Hanna, Jack 20. Hassilev, Alex (musician) 21. 22. Johns, Glynis 23. Jones, James Earl 24. 25. Lawrence, Steve 26. 27. Lehrer, Tom 28. 29. Max, Peter 30. Mays, Willie 31. McCourt, Malachy 32. Mitchell, Joni 33. Montes, Yolanda (Tongolele) 34. Newhart, Bob 35. 36. 37. Perrine, Valerie 38. Randolph, Joyce 39. Richards, Keith 40. Saint, Eva Marie 41. Scales, Prunella 42. Severinsen, Doc 43. Shatner, William 44. 45. Turner, Ted 46. 47. Van Doren, Mamie 48. Westheimer, Dr. Ruth 49. Williams, Edy 50. Woodward, Joanne
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DUESPAID (1)
. Browkaw, Tom Brooks,Mel Carter, Jimmy Cosby, Bill Duvall, Shelley Dyke Van, Dick Dylan, Bob Eastwood, Clint Kilmer, Val Lockhart, June Novak, Kim Osbourne, Ozzy Parsons, Estelle Pop, Iggy Wagner,Robert .
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DON MARCO (5)
1 Attenborough David 2 3 4 5 6 Brooks Mel 7 Button Dick 8 Carter Jimmy 9 10 11 Corman Roger 12 13 Garr Terri 14 Grant Lee 15 16 Greenspan Alan 17 18 19 20 Johns, Glynis 21 22 23 Kroft Sid 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 Lockhart June 31 Marshall Peter 32 Mays Willie 33 34 35 Paige, Janis 36 Perry William (politician) 37 38 39 Rader Jack 40 Randolph Joyce 41 42 Saint Eva Marie 43 44 Severinsen Doc 45 Shalit Gene 46 47 Shaw Tim 48 49 50
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TIS (0)
. . . Bardot, Bridgette Breyer, Stephen (Supreme Court Judge) Brooks, Mel Burnett, Carol Buchanan, Pat Carter, Jimmy Douglas, Michael Eastwood, Clint Eden, Barbara (actress) Hackman, Gene Jagger, Mick Ono, Yoko Nelson, Willie Novak, Kim Polanski, Roman Richards, Keith Saint, Eva Marie (actress) Sheen, Charlie Tyler, Steven (AeroSmith) Van Dyke, Dick Williams, Montel
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MIGNON (1)
1. 2. 3. Bear, Max Jr. 4. 5. 6. 7. Brooks, Mel 8. Busey, Gary 9. 10. Carter, Jimmy 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. Culkin, Macaully 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. Douglas, Michael 21. Garrett, Leif 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. 30. 31. Lohan, LIndsay 32. Love, Courtney 33. 34. 35. Mays, Willie 36. 37. Novak, Kim 38. 39. 40. 41. 42. 43. Richards, Keith 44. 45. 46. Sheen, Charlie 47. Travis, Randy 48. Van Dyke, Dick 49. 50.
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Last edited by J Geoff; 10/02/24 11:03 PM. Reason: List updated
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: The 2024 Dead Pool
[Re: J Geoff]
#1078386
12/29/23 01:37 PM
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Someone requested an extra day or two to submit their list. I have no problem with a list coming in a day or two late (Jan 1 or 2) as long as no one on that list has died before the list was submitted (they won't count, obviously)....
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: The 2024 Dead Pool
[Re: J Geoff]
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12/31/23 02:44 PM
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Since we're extending the deadline until Jan 2, I won't post the lists until then -- but they will be timestamped in my PM box. Please get them to me ASAP to be safe...!
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: The 2024 Dead Pool
[Re: J Geoff]
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01/01/24 03:19 PM
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Okay, I have the lists from everyone who played last time, but I'll give it until 12AM ET Jan 2nd (midnight tonight) as I said I would, in case someone else wants to join in....
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: The 2024 Dead Pool
[Re: BAM_233]
#1089946
05/13/24 01:37 AM
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He made some cult classics. I know he helped many in Hollywood get some breaks, Francis Ford Coppola, Martin Scorsese, and James Cameron, maybe Ron Howard not sure on Howard, and actors Jack Nicholson, David Carradine, Tommy Lee Jones, Peter Fonda, Dennis Hopper, Robert De Niro, Sandra Bullock, many others.
"I have this Nightmare. I'm on 5th avenue watching the St. Patrick's Day parade and I have a coronary and nine thousand cops march happily over my body." Chief Sidney Green
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R.I.P. Kris Kristofferson [88]
[Re: J Geoff]
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09/29/24 10:10 PM
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U talkin' da me ??
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https://variety.com/2024/film/obitu...d-country-music-legend-actor-1236159472/The beautiful, short-lived relationship between Janis Joplin and Kris Kristoffersonhttps://faroutmagazine.co.uk/janis-joplin-and-kris-kristofferson-relationship/Kris Kristofferson first met Janis Joplin through their mutual friend and folk singer Bobby Neuwirth in the spring of 1970. At the suggestion of Neuwirth, after they played a show together in New York, Kristofferson accompanied him on a flight to Larkspur, California, to the home of Janis Joplin. What was intended to be a short trip ended up lasting several weeks, and whilst staying at her residence, Kristofferson and Joplin became increasingly drawn to each other. Kristofferson recalled: “I dug her, but I had itchy feet. I’d get up intending to get out, and in she comes with the early morning drinks and pretty soon you’re wasted enough and you don’t care about leaving.” Soon, they “hit it off” and their romance bloomed. Sharing some innate understanding of each other being Texas natives, it was to be one of the most iconic yet short-lived relationships in all of rock. Sadly, it would only end after Joplin’s heroin overdose in October 1970. Whilst together, Kristofferson had urged Joplin to record a version of ‘Me and Bobby McGee’, as she loved the track. Eventually, she did decide to release it on her upcoming record, Pearl, which, unfortunately, she wouldn’t even see released. Furthermore, Joplin’s version was recorded only days before her untimely death, making it unlistenable to many. It is said that Kristofferson was unaware that Joplin had recorded the song, perhaps she was going to surprise him. He heard it the day after her passing, proving too much to bear, he broke down immediately, and to this day, he cannot listen to the song. “Unfortunately, the first time I heard Janis’s recording of ‘Bobby McGee’ was when I had just gone down because she had died,” Kristofferson remembered. “But, I remember the producer, he asked me to come by his office the next day. He had something he wanted to play me. I didn’t even know she cut it. And, uh, he played it for me and I had to leave the room. It was impossibly hard to hear. So much love and emotion going into the song and knowing that she wasn’t there to enjoy that.” He concluded: “I love it because of the passion and heart and soul that she put into everything she did. But, in that one, I can hear her saying, ‘Wait until this son of a b**** hears this. He’s gonna die.'”
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Re: Dead Pool 2024
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10/02/24 09:43 AM
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Okay, I think I'm all caught up now -- let me know if I've missed any! I should be better at updates now that baseball season is winding down...
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Dead Pool 2024
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10/02/24 11:04 PM
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Here are 5 more from my list: Grazie!
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: The 2024 Dead Pool
[Re: J Geoff]
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10/15/24 02:58 PM
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My list needs quite a bit of updating:
Remove: Ed Ames (he died in 2023)
Add: Alex Hassilev (d. April 21) James Earl Jones (d. September 9) Steve Lawrence (d. March 7) Malachy McCourt (d. March 11) Bob Newhart (d. July 18) Dr. Ruth Westheimer (d. July 12)
This should bring me up to date.
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