Its a fucking joke to put it simply. They should be emberassed of themselves on who they are counting on to carry this thing into the future.

Some of these clowns don't even get me started its a fuckin disgrace!! NONE OF THESE MORONS WOULD HAVE EVER EVER BEEN CONSIDERED 30-40 years ago, not even 20 years ago!

It makes me want to PUKE!

Yeah and most of these guys are broke, even if they had money at some point, still end up being brokesters. Makes you lose respect for them. And they put absolutely zero effort into fashion. I've literally seen homeless people dressed better than some of these chumps these days. And don't even get me started on the rats. Lucchese associate Lorenzo Tripodi literally flipped over an assault charge! They can't even face the music over an assault case???

Tell me about it!

There really arent any majority Italian/ working class neighborhoods any longer. Also no social clubs.
There was an infrastructure so to speak that enabled newer guys to be influenced as well as schooled.

Where are they finding these bums?

All true. My favorite symbol of current Mafia feebleness is the scene in the movie "Donnie Brasco" where Sonny Black's crew are busting open parking meters to get at the quarters in them.

It's not even that Turnbull. At least in that era they were still a viable entity, even if they were partaking in such small-scale thievery. And they still dressed decent. And the Bonannos weren't a ship of rats yet, it would still be another 2 or 3 decades. Look at it now.

The best of italian american community go to university or get a well paid job so what remain is the worst,that it. Nobody want to be involved and risk years in the can for few bucks.

I get what you're saying but at one time it wasn't always all about the money. Some joined for criminal prestige, others joined for brotherhood, still others joined just because they liked the idea of belonging to a secret criminal organization. Even Philly mobster Joe Sodano said, "isn't it great, that you could be a member, and nobody knows?" And of course there are those who joined for money. But if it was only about money, you wouldn't have had people paying money to join. That means that membership at one time was very desirable, excluding the money aspect.

Yes but lets get to the talent pool that is currently being used. Don't you guys find it pathetic when you look at guys who currently are in the game that would have never ever been more than a shoe shine boy 40-50 years ago?

This ended in the 1980s when the feds exposed all mob secrets helped by the bosses that with their actions led many mobsters to flip for avoid being killed.
Plus the old school mobsters like Lonardo in Cleveland,Frattiano in Los Angeles and Charles Porter doesnt want to die in jail. The problem started after the mafia become become americanized.
In sicily there was 2 way: fight or die - no State with Witsec.
In 1970s - 1980s the american mob wasnt more a brotherhood but a way to made money with the union or the heroin after thanks to the italian neighborhoods still remained with a good recruitment pool.
In 2024 with no unions,no italian hoods what remains is the bottom of the barrel.

Wouldn't you guys say that the mob in current times relies on more minority groups than 100% Italians?

In Chicago the Outfit uses hispanic gang members for some of their rackets. The Outfit is on good terms with the Latin Kings and they do business together from time to time depending on the situation.

All you tough guys should go join the mob if you’re so concerned about it.

Rush - I’m sure you’re a real capable guy and not really a cuck like you come across on here.

Jagoffs