Originally Posted by Toodoped
Originally Posted by BlackFamily
Originally Posted by Toodoped
Originally Posted by BlackFamily
Well crafted summary Toodoped.
Im going to add some context in some sections for more discussion if you don't mind. I have the book on the Policy Kings. There's an absence of the 3rd Jones brother, Big 12 Syndicate & their wheels, and a few others dealing with the street gang connection history in your article respctfully.


Thanks @BlackFam and to be honest, I was hoping for you to chime in. Yes, I know I left out lots of information such at the third Jones bro and many other stuff, mainly because i was concentrated on their connections to the Chicago mob and on how the whole situation started and also regarding its most lucrative ending.

For example, I also didnt mention that the old black syndicates were represented by King on the so-called "Trust" which in fact was Chicagos first gambling/crime commission from the early 1900s under Mike McDonald.

Btw, what can you tell me about the "Big 12" and who had a seat on the round table?


Check out my 2014 post

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/u...;Main=30562&Number=782645#Post782645


Thanks a lot @BlackFam and I personally enjoyed many of your posts through the years.

One or two questions....Walter Kelly was the brother of "Ily Kelley" who I think was Ira Kelly right? Also, was Henry Young related to Sam Young? In addition, I think that some of the rest of the fellas were either under the Jones bros or Big Jim aka the main reps for all West, South and North policy wheels...although I personally still have some doubts on who was the prime black operator around the North Side and the Rush St areas (the second most lucrative area after the south), or before Shaky Tom and Kid Riviera came on the scene.....the old Chi mobs were very territorial and thats why im askin..


Your welcome.
Walter J. Kelly ( Hooper) & Illy Kelly were indeed brothers & there was a sister in Indiana. I don't think Henry was relatef to Sam though. Nope they were treated as equals by the Jones Brothers & Big Jim but the other midsized to small operators were under their umbrealla. Heres additional info:

Sam Young: http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/u...;Main=30463&Number=780240#Post780240

Policy Wheels: http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/u...;Main=30506&Number=781244#Post781244

Policy War 1: http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/u...;Main=30526&Number=781680#Post781680

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