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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...on-pour-semer-la-mort-chez-les-hells.phpFrederick mentions the "Federation" that was formed having four generals to protect the Rizzuto family ,consisting of Silva, Wooley, Tamouro but it does not mention who the fourth general was ? Furthermore, if Silva is spilling the beans then why haven't they arrested the person or persons who were financing these contracts to these four generals ? It's never a dull moment in Montreal 
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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11/29/24 10:34 AM
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You really have to admire the Rizzutos, they are resilient as hell. They've been under assault for 15 years straight and they're still going. They've survived Desjardins, Montagna, Mirarchi, many of their own people switching sides, the Scoppa bros, street gangs and the HA attacking them, they've survived the death of Vito and the death of Rocco and Giordano, Wooley being killed, Silva turning snitch, Steve Sauce being disabled by cancer. They're probably making a fraction of the money they used to make.
But even with many people lined up against them they still can't put them down for good, now matter how much of a beating they take they always strike back, they always have another play. Chit Del Balso being clipped(by a sniper no less) shows that, you can never discount them.
If they survive whatever prosecution comes out of Silva's testimony I have a hunch this is eventually going to end with Martin Robert getting clipped. It wouldn't surprise me at this point. I agree they are very resilient. They always managed to find new allies to counter attack. But I also doubt the Hells are willing to concede all territories , which brings to believe they may also form other alliances to continue this never ending war.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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The way I read the article. I think Woolley and Silva were 2 of the 4 generals. And Tamouro was part of the Federation, but not a general. So there are two generals missing.
Or maybe i’m wrong Whichever way you interpret 1 or 2 , it still remains that they are not mentioned. Another thing that caught my attention is "Calabrian Mafia" mentioned in the article and that war between Sicilians and Calabrians was still not over. Which Calabrians are we talking about ? It would be nice if the journalist would elaborate.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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You really have to admire the Rizzutos, they are resilient as hell. They've been under assault for 15 years straight and they're still going. They've survived Desjardins, Montagna, Mirarchi, many of their own people switching sides, the Scoppa bros, street gangs and the HA attacking them, they've survived the death of Vito and the death of Rocco and Giordano, Wooley being killed, Silva turning snitch, Steve Sauce being disabled by cancer. They're probably making a fraction of the money they used to make.
But even with many people lined up against them they still can't put them down for good, now matter how much of a beating they take they always strike back, they always have another play. Chit Del Balso being clipped(by a sniper no less) shows that, you can never discount them.
If they survive whatever prosecution comes out of Silva's testimony I have a hunch this is eventually going to end with Martin Robert getting clipped. It wouldn't surprise me at this point. I agree they are very resilient. They always managed to find new allies to counter attack. But I also doubt the Hells are willing to concede all territories , which brings to believe they may also form other alliances to continue this never ending war. No doubt the HA aren't staying still, they killed Woolley, they killed Tamouro, they almost killed Leonardo. But it seems now they're also in a war with street gangs, so they have to fight on two fronts. I think the HA got too greedy and wanted to take over everything. The original Rizzuto/HA alliance worked well from a business standpoint and they also had enough muscle to keep the street gangs down, it was probably the HAs that broke it
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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You really have to admire the Rizzutos, they are resilient as hell. They've been under assault for 15 years straight and they're still going. They've survived Desjardins, Montagna, Mirarchi, many of their own people switching sides, the Scoppa bros, street gangs and the HA attacking them, they've survived the death of Vito and the death of Rocco and Giordano, Wooley being killed, Silva turning snitch, Steve Sauce being disabled by cancer. They're probably making a fraction of the money they used to make.
But even with many people lined up against them they still can't put them down for good, now matter how much of a beating they take they always strike back, they always have another play. Chit Del Balso being clipped(by a sniper no less) shows that, you can never discount them.
If they survive whatever prosecution comes out of Silva's testimony I have a hunch this is eventually going to end with Martin Robert getting clipped. It wouldn't surprise me at this point. I agree they are very resilient. They always managed to find new allies to counter attack. But I also doubt the Hells are willing to concede all territories , which brings to believe they may also form other alliances to continue this never ending war. No doubt the HA aren't staying still, they killed Woolley, they killed Tamouro, they almost killed Leonardo. But it seems now they're also in a war with street gangs, so they have to fight on two fronts. I think the HA got too greedy and wanted to take over everything. The original Rizzuto/HA alliance worked well from a business standpoint and they also had enough muscle to keep the street gangs down, it was probably the HAs that broke it And where have you learned the Hells Angels killed Gregory Woolley and Samy Tamouro?
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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It's also notable that Silva said they still had the ability to import coke, and they were planning to take over the street trade. It make sense but there was speculation that Pietrantonio and Scoppa were the main importers the Rizzutos had and they both switch sides, as well as all the talk about the Mexicans pushing everyone else out.
I guess the Rizzutos are still in the coke trade though. There is no shortages of importers. Each gangs or clans have their own sources. There definitely are no shortages of importers in Montreal, that’s for damn sure I’d say the HA’s or gangs were responsible for Woolley, I just don’t see the Rizzuto/Sollecito faction having a good reason to pop him
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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It's not obvious. If you've been following along the Arab Power is suspected to have killed Gregory Woolley while he was mediating a dispute between them and Antonio Accurso.
And you did mention Samy Tamouro
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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Well we got our answee
Silva is italian and grew in a crip gang from pie9, mostly of haitian descent (the gang). I need to apologize to you and the rest of the forum for all but declaring that Silva is not Italian. My apologies to all. Below is a link to a death notice for his father. The original online obituary from the funeral home is no longer available. https://www.domainefuneraire.com/avis-de-deces/pietro-silvaSilva’s path as a criminal career may have appeared unusual to me, as did the fact that police stated he could speak only English and French, but neither my impressions nor his only spoken languages change the reality that he has Italian ancestry on his father’s side.
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