Man oh man, Im having a glass of wine tonight or two after seeing this shit. Giving me anxiety big time, wtf?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"The fact that these launder money means that these are narco-states", Spahiu "breaks down" the details: the Italian mafia launders 1000 times more money in the USA and the EU than in Albania

https://sot.com.al/english/politike...e-se-keto-jane-narko-shtete-spah-i667695

Albanian drug boss Bujar Cozminca gets 12 years for multimillion dollar cocaine deal https://gangstersinc.org/2024/07/03...rs-for-multimillion-dollar-cocaine-deal/

Contract killings and complex money laundering: Albanian crime group busted https://gangstersinc.org/2024/08/01...-laundering-albanian-crime-group-busted/

Two questions:

1) Are the Albanians bigger than the Italians in the underworld?

2) Besides the well-known John Alite, do Albanians have a rat problem, like the organizations from Italy? I never hear about Albanian justice collaborators.

1) apples and oranges, Albanian criminal groups do not have a hierarchical and centralized structure, they are more similar to the 'Banda della Magliana' to give an example with an Italian group, but very different to Cosa Nostra or the Ndrangheta

2) there are few repentants among Albanians

They may not be as structured or organized as the Ndrangheta or Cosa Nostra, but reading through this thread I was very impressed.

And oh yeah, the Italians be talking their asses off lol, seems like every other sentence mentions justice collaborator or pentiti.

naturally among Italians there are more repentants, the Italian laws in this regard are much harsher, in Canada how many repentant Italians are there? very few

They are particular brutal among themselves, like the Italians in the 80s, but they are more spread throughout Europe.


The Çopja family has been in a bloody feud with another criminal clan from Albania since at least 2012, which has already claimed dozens of victims, mainly in Western Europe.

This is a clan that originates from the city of Elbasan, southeast of the capital Tirana. The deputy director of a prison in that city and a former judge from Elbasan are also among the suspects.

Franc Çopja was extradited from Dubai to Belgium in 2023. In Belgium, he is suspected of, among other things, ordering the liquidation of Ardit Spahiu in Brussels-Molenbeek on 28 November 2020, and two other murders in Belgium.

I think the Albanians have their shit together more than the Mafia, and they don't rat.

Albanians are powerful, but like i said before they can't be compared to the Mafia because they have not a centralized structure, ranks and cerimony of initiation, in other words they are not a single entity, they tend to be smaller, less hierarchical and organized, and more fluid than a Mafia family; they are criminal enterprises more than organized crime like an FBI agent declared

They have their own structure very clannish. Balkan crime groups, not only Albanians, have eschewed the top-down, territorial structure of cartels from Mexico and Colombia, working instead in small cells

The typical structure of the Albanian mafia is hierarchical. A family clan is referred to as a "fis" or a "fare." Families contain an executive committee known as a "Bajrak" and select a high-ranking member for each unit.

according to FBI and italian police there is no defined hierarchy, a group is made up of people who come from the same city or neighborhood, often relatives, with a more or less recognized leader, but it does not have a defined structure. They operate in small, fluid, less hierarchical groups, that's the reason FBI call them "criminal enterprises"

Maybe it's a mix of both. Maybe there are clans like what Hollander is speaking of and others that are not.

it's possible, but all the examples we have so far looking at indictments and police reports (for example Rudaj gang in New York, Demce gang in Italy and several others) seem to point us to the fact that they are fluid and less hierarchical organizations; this is also the main reason why in Italy there are very few Albanian citizens charged with 416-bis (mafia-type association), even less than other foreigner groups like the Nigerians

What is interesting in the criminal report of the Italian Ministry of the Interior, is the fact that in Albanian criminal organizations, an increase in the participation of women, even in leadership positions, has been seen.

'Albanian police chief and son were behind the smuggling of 446 kilos of cocaine into the Netherlands'
August 9, 2024

A shipment of 446 kilos of cocaine that was intercepted in the Netherlands in early 2021 was intended for a group of Albanians and Dutch. The son of a police chief in Tirana is said to be behind the drug transport, among other things. This is reported by the Albanian medium Pamfleti .

(Photo: Eralbi Breçani and his father, former police chief Erzen Breçani)

Maasvlakte
According to prosecutors in Albania, the seizure of 446 kilos of cocaine in the Netherlands on January 5, 2021 is attributed to a criminal group, consisting of the suspects Ismail Zeneli, Besmir Murtati, Eralbi Breçani and his father Erzen Breçani. The coke was found in a container on the Maasvlakte in the port of Rotterdam.

Two Dutch people were arrested on the spot: Roelof den O. (53) from Zoelen, and Dirk Evert B. (39) from Amersfoort.

Police Chief
Erzen Breçani was the former deputy director of the police in Tirana, the capital of Albania. According to the Albanian authorities, the four suspects are said to have worked together with others and the drug lord Ergys Dashi, who was liquidated in Ecuador in early 2022 , to smuggle 446 kilos of cocaine from Ecuador to the Netherlands.

The suspects came into the picture after hacking chat conversations via Sky ECC.

https://www.crimesite.nl/albanese-p...smokkel-446-kilo-cocaine-naar-nederland/

Well Hollander, I'm sure you didn't pull that structure out of your ass. It must apply to certain Albanian clans.

Albanian OC is definitely not on the same level as Italian OC. I'm not trying to downplay the Albanians' role in current day organized crime, which is definitely noteworthy as they are definitely well organized and have a known reputation for being brutal (even though that brutality is largely confined to the Albanian criminal world where they settle their disputes among themselves and they rarely get into it with criminal organizations from other ethnicities). But I've known plenty of Albanians and when it comes to their criminal organizations I can tell you what they are is professional and serious, but what they are not is even comparable to the Italians. Albanian OC for the most part are high level cocaine and marijuana distributors and human traffickers. Their money laundering networks are far from as extensive and their knack for other rackets (white collar or otherwise) is small time compared to the Italians.

the main advantage that Albanian criminal groups have is the fact that Albania is extremely corrupt and they are not prosecuted well by the police, there are no laws like the 416-bis (they tried to copy it but with little success) like in Italy, or 41-bis and the witness protection program, the number of repentants is very low

The fall of communism in Albania, the last such event in Europe outside the Soviet Union in 1990 should not be ignored it paved the way for more liberty, freedom and democracy but also for OC.

The much-wanted Dorian Petoku is captured in Dubai

https://politiko.al/english/e-tjera/kapet-ne-dubai-i-shumekerkuari-dorian-petoku-i512199

Responsible for the trafficking of 17 tons of cocaine, "Albanês", the Albanian wanted by Brazilian justice, is arrested

https://www.voxnews.al/english/aktu...okaine-arrestohet-albans-shqiptar-i71796

"The biggest Albanian players in the cocaine market", the file of "Black Eagle" of "SKY ECC" in Belgium

https://www.voxnews.al/english/aktu...tregun-e-kokines-dosja-e-black-ea-i63553

Drug gang using Chinese money brokers uncovered, Italian police say

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...uncovered-italian-police-say-2024-09-25/

They intercepted communications between Albanian criminal organisations, which used the encrypted SkyECC.
Tons of cocaine were brought to Europe, but a lot was also seized in Spain, Belgium and Holland.

No way we can find these chats?

The Pioneering Albanian Trafficker Who Took Ecuador’s Drug Trade By Storm

https://insightcrime.org/news/the-rise-of-albanian-dritan-gjika-and-his-cocaine-network-to-europe/