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Re: Israel: 'State of war' [Re: Kangaroo Don] #1107738
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Originally Posted by Kangaroo Don
The Pope has met with hostages’ families and freed hostages on multiple occasions, praying with them and telling them, he would do whatever he could, to secure the release of those held in Gaza How is that going?! Day 431
Exactly Merry Christmas!

One of the many, many deep concern and absolute dismay responses, at Pope Francis' problematic, objectionable” and “categorically false" comments -- Rabbi Eugene Korn, posited,
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“I am convinced that Francis does not understand the implications of what he says”
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“He is, after all, a pastor and not a theologian and surely his advanced age of 88 years influences his statements”
I say, No excuse Unfit for the position

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Israel been calling it and calling it...

From: The Jerusalem Post December 10, 2024
WCK

World Central Kitchen fires 62 Gaza employees after Israel finds connections to terror groups
Two WCK workers, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the termination was for "security reasons."

The World Central Kitchen fired dozens of Palestinians working for the charity in the Gaza Strip, with the termination being for "security reasons," two WCK workers, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said. 

According to the two, the firing of the workers was based on an Israeli assessment of them.

In a message to staff, WCK confirmed that it had "made changes" after Israel demanded an investigation into its hiring practices in Gaza.

"This should not be taken as a conclusion by WCK that the individuals are affiliated with any terror organization," it said.

It said it had taken the step "to protect our team and our operations."
A WCK spokesperson confirmed that 62 people had been let go.

WCK employee identified as partaking in October 7 massacre

An Israeli security official told Reuters that Israel had demanded an investigation into staff potentially linked to the October 7 attack after it said a WCK employee identified as Ahed Azmi Qdeih took part in the attack.

The official said an Israeli security review found that 62 WCK employees had "affiliations and direct connections" with terrorist groups.

"Consequently, senior Israeli officials demanded that WCK terminate the employment of those workers," he said.
Is that it? No other consequences?

Now for UNRWA...

Re: Israel: 'State of war' [Re: Trojan] #1107752
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Pope Francis to meet PA chairman Abbas
Israel National News Arutz Sheva by Elad Benari 11 December 2024

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  • Pope Francis to meet PA chairman Abbas
Vatican confirms that Pope Francis, who has continued to be critical of Israel's military actions in Gaza, will meet Palestinian Authority (PA) chairman Mahmoud Abbas

Pope Francis is scheduled to meet Abbas on Thursday, Reuters reported on Tuesday, citing a Vatican announcement
The Vatican confirmed the meeting with Abbas in a brief statement on Tuesday but did not provide additional details about the agenda

Pope Francis and Abbas have met on several occasions and last spoke in November 2023

The meeting between the Pope and Abbas comes as the pope continues to express increasingly pointed criticism of Israel's military actions in Gaza

Abbas will be in Italy this week and is also expected to meet with Italian President Sergio Mattarella and Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni

The Vatican recognized “Palestine” as a state in 2013
Four years later, in 2017 the Palestinian Authority (PA) opened an “embassy” in the Vatican

During a 2015 meeting with Abbas, the pope referred to Abbas as "an angel of peace" causing outrage on social media

The Vatican later explained that the reference was mistranslated and in fact was meant as encouragement for Abbas to pursue peace with Israel

Re: Israel: 'State of war' [Re: Kangaroo Don] #1107753
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Baby Jesus in Palestinian keffiyeh in Vatican nativity scene
The Times of Israel by Lazar Berman 10 December 2024

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  • Pope Francis -- Into an ice age:
    1. “fuels an already out of control global antisemitism”
    2. “Inappropriate comments while antisemitism runs rampant in Europe” and around the world

Shortly after the October 7 attacks, hundreds of Jewish leaders and scholars wrote an open letter to Francis, asking the Chuch to unequivocally condemn Hamas’s attacks and to distinguish terrorism from Israel’s war on the group

It took three months for the Pope to respond in a letter that condemned antisemitism, reaffirmed the bond between the Church and Jews and stressed,
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“his heart is torn at the sight of what is happening in the Holy Land, by the power of so much division and so much hatred”
— but failed to mention Hamas

German Catholic theologian Gregor Maria Hoff blasted the Pope’s response,
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“It is not enough to condemn violence without unambiguously identifying the responsible actors”
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Originally Posted by Trojan
I say, No excuse Unfit for the position
I say, clean up your own backyard, First -- All the Church abuse....

Re: Israel: 'State of war' [Re: Hollander] #1107754
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HTS are no Zionists
Haaretz Podcast 10 December 2024

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  • 'They're No Zionists': How Syria's Rebels Toppled Assad and What It means for Israel
The Syrian rebels who toppled Bashar Assad are highly unlikely to pose an immediate threat to Israel, leading Middle East expert Hassan Hassan said on the latest episode of the Haaretz Podcast

The rapid collapse of the Assad regime in Syria has left Israel concerned about the future of what has been its quietest border in an era of continual instability and war as Hayat Tahrir al-Sham HTS the rebel group that drove Assad out and has roots in Al-Qaeda and ISIS takes charge

Despite the public split from al-Qaeda and name changes HTS continued to be designated by the UN, US, UK and other countries as a terrorist organisation

Syrian-born journalist, author and editor-in-chief of New Lines Magazine Hassan, believes that their posture towards Israel would be,
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"cut from the same cloth" as Assad's who "never really waged war against Israel since 1973"
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"I suspect they will probably send signals to Israel directly or indirectly that they're not interested in igniting anything there"

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HTS are no Zionists
Haaretz Podcast 10 December 2024

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  • 'They're No Zionists': How Syria's Rebels Toppled Assad and What It means for Israel

Haaretz senior military analyst Amos Harel also on the podcast, said,
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Israeli officials are wary of the group and its leader, Abu Mohammed al-Jolani

According to Harel, the Syrian rebel leader currently
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"at least pretends to to have become more of a moderate" He doesn't talk like an extreme jihadist anymore
But don't think, I'm buying into this and neither are the Israeli intelligence community and the Israeli leadership

1. The question is whether fighting Israel is a top priority for this new alliance? I don't think so
2. But is this a beginning of a wonderful era between Israel and Syria? I seriously doubt that"

Syrian-born journalist, author and editor-in-chief of New Lines Magazine Hassan, said,
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My countrymen are in a "euphoric early stage" of celebration, stunned to see the end of the 50-year reign of the Assad dynasty"
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"You really have to have a rich imagination to imagine something worse than Assad"

As the Syrians, watch the images of political prisoners being released after decades,
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"it reminds them of how bad and brutal the Assad regime was"

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HTS are no Zionists
Haaretz Podcast 10 December 2024

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  • 'They're No Zionists': How Syria's Rebels Toppled Assad and What It means for Israel

Syrian-born journalist, author and editor-in-chief of New Lines Magazine Hassan, predicts,
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"The "domino effect" of upheaval will continue across the region"
With the devastation of Hamas, Hezbollah and now the Assad regime
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"you could say that the Iranian hegemony in the Levant is almost over”
Maybe so -- However still unfinished business....

  • Hostages and Houthis
Originally Posted by Trojan
1. Hamas still fighting and still has the Israeli hostages -- How many are alive
2. Houthis still attacking

Re: Israel: 'State of war' [Re: Hollander] #1107757
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Originally Posted by Capri
Oh, no! another border enemy panic Hostile NATO member Turkey backed HTS
Originally Posted by Capri
Israeli tanks cross Syria border fence for first time in 50 years: Oh, no! another front crazy
Originally Posted by Trojan
Turkey is no friend of Israel
Originally Posted by Trojan
Turkey hostile to Israel -- Enmity, Power struggle, Volatility
Originally Posted by Hollander
Erdogan made a powerplay, Turkey has become a force in the Middle-East in no-time.

Turkish delight! sliding sweetly into the vacuum [Thanks to Israel and Ukraine] left by Iran and Russia
Originally Posted by Trojan
But... Apparently, they are trying / made deals with HTS

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Pepperidge Farm Remembers the 1973 War against Israel:

In total, Arab countries added up to 100,000 troops to Egypt and Syria's frontline ranks, and about 20,000 troops stationed in Jordanian territory.[28] Besides Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq, several other Arab states were also involved in this war, providing additional weapons and financing. In addition to its forces in Syria, Iraq sent a single Hawker Hunter squadron to Egypt. The squadron quickly gained a reputation amongst Egyptian field commanders for its skill in air support, particularly in anti-armor strikes.[417]

However, nearly all Arab reinforcements came with no logistical plan or support, expecting their hosts to supply them, and in several cases causing logistical problems. On the Syrian front, a lack of coordination between Arab forces led to several instances of friendly fire.[5][2]

Algeria sent a squadron each of MiG-21s and Su-7s to Egypt, which arrived at the front between 9 and 11 October. It also sent an armored brigade of 150 tanks, the advance elements of which began to arrive on 17 October, but reached the front only on 24 October, too late to participate in the fighting. After the war, during the first days of November, Algeria deposited around US$200 million with the Soviet Union to finance arms purchases for Egypt and Syria.[2] Algerian fighter jets, however, did participate in attacks together with Egyptians and Iraqis.[418]
East German Communist Party leader Erich Honecker directed the shipment of 75,000 grenades, 30,000 mines, 62 tanks and 12 fighter jets to Syria.[419]
20 North Korean pilots and 19 non-combat personnel were sent to Egypt.[8] According to Shlomo Aloni, the last aerial engagement on the Egyptian front, which took place on 6 December, saw Israeli F-4s engage North Korean-piloted MiG-21s.[9] The Israelis shot down one MiG, and another was mistakenly shot down by Egyptian air defenses. Egyptian sources said that the North Koreans suffered no losses but claimed no aerial victories in their engagements.[10][11][8]
According to Chengappa, several Pakistan Air Force pilots flew combat missions in Syrian aircraft, and shot down one Israeli fighter.[420][421][422]
Libya, which had forces stationed in Egypt before the outbreak of the war, provided one armored brigade and two squadrons of Mirage V fighters, of which one squadron was to be piloted by the Egyptian Air Force and the other by Libyan pilots. Only Egyptian-manned squadrons participated in the war.[418] The Libyan armored brigade stationed in Egypt never took an active part in the war.[418] Libya also sent financial aid.[423]
Saudi Arabia had a force of 20,000 Saudi soldiers that remained in Jordanian territory since 1967 to provide support and assistance as needed for a total of 10 years.[39][38][40] Additionally, the Saudis sent 3,000 soldiers to Syria, bolstered by a light armored battalion of Panhard AML-90 vehicles.[4] One of the AMLs was later captured by the Israelis near Golan Heights and displayed to the media as proof of Saudi involvement.[1] The Saudi armor was deployed primarily in rearguard actions[1] but also performed active reconnaissance for the Iraqi and Jordanian expeditionary forces between 16 and 19 October.[424] During that time, it participated in two major engagements and the IDF claimed that most of the armoured car battalion was destroyed.[424] The Saudis acknowledged only minor losses, including the loss of 4 AMLs.[1]
Kuwait dispatched 3,000 soldiers to Syria.[4] These arrived with additional Jordanian and Iraqi reinforcements in time for a new Syrian offensive scheduled for 23 October, which was later cancelled.[4] Kuwaiti troops were also sent to Egypt.[425][better source needed][426] Kuwait also provided financial aid.[427]
Morocco sent one infantry brigade to Egypt and one armored regiment to Syria.[417][427] Six Moroccan troops were killed in action on the Syrian front.[6]
Tunisia sent 1,000–2,000 soldiers to Egypt, where they were stationed in the Nile Delta and some of them were stationed to defend Port Said.[5]
Lebanon enabled Palestinian artillery units to operate from its territory and Lebanese radar operators guided Syrian air force aircraft.[428] Lebanon however did not directly take part in the war.[429]
Sudan deployed a 3,500-strong infantry brigade to Egypt. It arrived on 28 October, too late to participate in the war.

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From: The Australian December 12, 2024
Israel’s proactive strike in Syria

The stakes for Israel in ensuring Syria does not become a base for even more menacing Islamist terrorism, could not be greater.

From: ABC News December 12, 2024
The defeat of Assad and the arrival of HTS has cut the supply chain delivering weapons to Hezbollah.

Iran, the ultimate controller of Hezbollah, is one of the big losers of the end of Assad.
Assad was a key element of Iran's crescent of influence — a crescent of Shia supporters that allowed Iran to arm Hezbollah so that it could be the source of attack and destabilization on Israel's border.

That Shia influence has been replaced by a Sunni group.

What's Syria's place in the world now?
HTS poses a dilemma for countries like US, UK where it is designated as a terrorist organization.

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From: ABC News December 12, 2024
Why is Israel turning an unlikely bedfellow in Syria, into a new enemy?

As Syrians expressed obvious relief at the end of 54 years of one of the most brutal dictatorships of modern times, their neighbor Israel reacted in a very different way:
1. a campaign of saturation bombing, launching an estimated 480 strikes in 48 hours.
2. At the same time, Israeli soldiers moved into Syria to seize a significant swathe of land,
3. extending what had been a buffer zone between the two countries.

The scale of Israel's bombing raises the question of how, longer-term, Israel sees its place in its neighborhood.
It led to many in the Arab world condemning Israel, including Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Qatar.

1. Israel had wanted to see the end of the Assad regime.
2. In this sense, they shared an ambition with an unlikely bedfellow — Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS)

Not Quite…The toppling of Assad's regime in Syria may be bad news for Israel
Originally Posted by Capri
Israeli Diaspora Affairs Minister Amichai Chikli says the opposition advances in Syria “are far from a cause for celebration” for his country cry

Re: Israel: 'State of war' [Re: Kangaroo Don] #1107867
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The enemy of my enemy is my new enemy

For decades, there's been an axiom in the Middle East that tends to ring true: the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Israel has just turned the "enemy axiom" on its head.
Their response to the end of Assad and the arrival of HTS is that the enemy of my enemy is my new enemy.

after the fall of Bashar al-Assad:
Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: "we are changing the face of the Middle East"
Foreign Minister Gideon Sa'ar: Israel was bombing facilities housing weapons stockpiles, to prevent them from falling into the hands of extremists.

Israel's rationale appears to be that it is using this opportunity to hit weapons supplies or military facilities that may pose a threat to it and has seized land to make Israel safer.

But at any time during the last 50 years, Israel could have struck any target that it deemed as a threat and for many years, the current buffer zone had been large enough to ensure Syrian troops could not mass near its border

Over recent years, when Israel has decided that any activity or facility inside Syria has been a threat, it has been able to take action — there have been occasions when Israeli intelligence detected trucks in Syria carrying weapons to Hezbollah in Lebanon and Israel has bombed them.

There was no need because
1. Assad was not deemed a direct threat
2. He allowed Iran to arm Hezbollah through Syria but...
3. He "never really waged war against Israel since 1973"

However with HTS Israel is being proactive ensuring Syria does not become a base for another Islamist terrorism

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You can't really blame Turkey doing their thing though they helped millions of fugitives from Syria that has a big toll on their own country. The only thing I'm worried about is the situation with the Kurds maybe it's time for a free Kurdistan.


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Originally Posted by Hollander
You can't really blame Turkey doing their thing though they helped millions of fugitives from Syria that has a big toll on their own country.
True but so did, many other countries...
At the end of the day, Turkey is a NATO member. Israel and NATO are allies

Originally Posted by Hollander
The only thing I'm worried about is the situation with the Kurds maybe it's time for a free Kurdistan.
Kurds' situation is a worry indeed

From: The Times of Israel December 11, 2024
Jihadist rebels capture eastern Syria’s Deir Ezzor from US-backed, Kurdish-led forceHayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) ends brief rule by Syrian Democratic Forces after dramatic fall of Assad regime, as new caretaker government holds first meeting in Damascus

Insurgents who overthrew the Syrian government said Tuesday that they have wrested control of the eastern city of Deir Ezzor after intense battles with a Kurdish-led, US-backed force.

Hassan Abdul-Ghani, a senior commander of the jihadi group Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), which leads the insurgent alliance, said that the rebel forces completely took control of the city.

A member of HTS said in a recorded video that the group would soon conduct a thorough sweep of the city’s neighborhoods to secure the area, adding that the strategic nearby town of Boukamal has also fallen to opposition forces.

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From: The Guardian December 12, 2024
Iran supreme leader Ali Khamenei

US and Israel:
Assad downfall was planned by US and Israel, claims Iran’s supreme leader

Khamenei says ‘America and Zionists’ masterminded collapse of Syrian regime that was backed by Tehran

Iran’s supreme leader has claimed the US and Israel acted as the command centre that engineered the downfall of Syria’s former president, Bashar al-Assad, and the ousting of Iran from the country.

Making his first comments since the collapse of a key pillar of Iran’s “axis of resistance”, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei told a gathering in Tehran: “There should be no doubt that what happened in Syria is the product of a joint American and Zionist plan.

HTS and Iran:
He also claimed Iranian intelligence had sent warnings to the Assad government about a possible attack for three months and predicted Syrian youth would eventually recapture the country, remarks that are unlikely to make it easier for Iran to build strong relations with the new leaders in Damascus.

Turkey:
Yes, a neighbouring government in Syria plays an obvious role in this regard, and is still playing it – everyone sees this – but the main conspirator, mastermind, and command centre are in America and the Zionist regime. We have evidence. This evidence leaves no room for doubt.”

His reference to a neighbouring government seems to be about Turkey, which played a key role in supporting the opposition forces that fanned out from Idlib in a well-planned military operation that was far more successful than they had ever envisaged.

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But Khamenei insisted: “Let everyone know that this situation will not remain as it is -- is unacceptable.
1. The fact that some people in Damascus celebrate, dance
2. and violate the homes of others while...
3. the Zionist regime bombs Syria, enters their territory with tanks and artillery

The Syrian youth will undoubtedly stand firm and overcome this situation.”

HTS and Iran:
Iran is already losing privileged access to the new Damascus government due to be dominated by Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) until at least next March, and was not among the group of Arab states offered a briefing on Tuesday in the capital.

By contrast, Qatar, a country that refused to recognise Assad, is due to reopen its embassy shortly, and is likely to be a key player in trying to persuade the Sunni HTS it needs to be inclusive if it is to thrive and enjoy sanctions relief.

Hamas and HTS:
In a further blow to Iran’s status as defenders of the Palestinian cause, Hamas, the leaders of the Palestinian resistance in Gaza, has welcomed the fall of Iran’s ally Assad.

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From: Haaretz December 13, 2024
Iran Faces Its Biggest Crisis in Decades After Assad's Fall. Israel Should Be Cautious

Almost everything pertaining to the consequences of the fall of the Assad regime in Syria is by nature highly and dangerously speculative.

There is a plethora of premature scenarios, simulations, probabilities, guesstimates and assessments floating around.

Some make perfect sense, some are expressions of wishful thinking.

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While the United Nations General Assembly UNGA resolutions are non-binding...

From: ABC News December 12, 2024
UN resolution:
1. calling for an "immediate, unconditional and permanent ceasefire" in Gaza
2. defending the work of the UN relief agency UNRWA and rebuking Israel for obstructing its provision of aid in Gaza.

Australia was joined by more than 150 countries, including Canada, New Zealand and the United Kingdom, voting against the United States and Israel

Although it calls for the "immediate and unconditional release of all hostages," it does not require Hamas to lay down its arms or condemn its actions.

Australia's permanent UN representative, James Larsen, said
1. it should have done so and
2. Australia "does not agree with everything" in the resolutions despite its support.

From: skynews.com.au December 13, 2024
Israeli government spokesperson expresses ‘heartache’ over strained relationship with Australia

Israeli government spokesperson David Mencer claims Israel is experiencing “heartache” over its current relationship with Australia.

“We certainly want it to be much better than it is right now,” Mr Mencer told Sky News Australia.
“It’s certainly causing us a fair amount of heartache, a country which we consider to be an ally, but we hope that things can improve.

“We here in Israel are fighting a battle against barbarism and Australia should be an ally in that battle.
“We are winning here in Israel, and we want Australia to celebrate that success because our success is your success in Australia as well.”

“Incitement against the Jewish state leads to physical attacks on Jews.”
one of the many examples: Adass Israel Synagogue in Melbourne, Australia Fire bombed with people inside

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Erdogan has often anti-Israel Rhetoric, but he knows the West and Israel will always be united.
Israel and Turkey in the past had pretty good relations also.


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From: The Australian December 13, 2024
Hamas-Israel ceasefire:

Hamas concedes on key Israeli demands, raising hopes for truce

For the first time Gaza has agreed to allow Israeli forces to remain in the enclave, and has submitted a list of hostages it would release under a ceasefire pact.

From: Haaretz December 13, 2024
Israel-Gaza war:

U.S. Defense Secretary Austin tells Israeli counterpart that U.S. and Israel should be in close consultation over unfolding events, Pentagon says

Trump tells TIME magazine he wants Israel-Gaza war to 'end'

In an interview with TIME magazine, President-elect Donald Trump was asked whether Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu gave him assurances he would end the war, to which Trump responded saying:
"I don't want to say that, but I think he feels confident – I think he feels very confident in me, and I think he knows I want it to end.

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The transponder trick that Putin used to smuggle Assad out of Syria: How dictator escaped in dramatic dash to his private plane, used a slight of hand to evade flight tracker and switched jets in Russia

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14181515/Moscow-confirms-Assad-Syria-escape-Russia.html


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Dutch court rejects bid to halt arms exports to Israel as Gaza war rages
Court says ‘all claims dismissed’ after rights groups file lawsuit to stop arms sales, citing genocide convention.

A Dutch court has rejected a bid by 10 pro-Palestinian NGOs to stop the Netherlands from exporting weapons to Israel and trading with illegal Israeli settlements in the occupied Palestinian territory.

The Hague district court stressed on Friday that the state has some leeway in its policies and courts should not rush to step in.

“The interim relief court finds that there is no reason to impose a total ban on the export of military and dual-use goods on the state,” it said in a statement. “All claims are dismissed.”


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.al...arms-exports-to-israel-as-gaza-war-rages


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From: Haaretz December 13, 2024

Hostages:
Family members of Israeli hostages held in Gaza gathered outside the home of Strategic Affairs Minister Ron Dermer, demanding progress on a deal to secure the hostages' release.

Rockets fired into Israel:
IDF says two rockets intercepted, after sirens sound in Gaza border communities and southern Israel
Islamic Jihad Claims Responsibility

Druze in Hader:
Some residents of the Syrian village of Hader, predominantly Druze, have expressed a desire to annex the village to Israel following the fall of the Assad regime, citing fears of the Islamist group Hayat Tahrir al-Sham.

Hezbollah:
An Israeli drone struck several Hezbollah members who were operating in southern Lebanon, the Israeli army said.

Syria:
U.S. Secretary of State Blinken visits Turkish and Iraqi officials to discuss developments in Syria

Mount Hermon:
IDF preparing for months-long hold of Syrian Mount Hermon

Israel-UK travel:
U.K. announces easing of travel advisory for Israel

Greece:
Greece in advanced talks to buy 36 PULS rocket artillery systems from Israel for 600-700 million euros, officials say

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Turkey's embassy in Damascus to reopen Saturday, minister says

Turkey's embassy in Damascus will resume work on Saturday
Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan said on Friday, adding the diplomatic delegation headed to Syria.

"We want to see a terror-free Syria, where minorities are not mistreated.
We want an inclusive government in Syria," he said in an interview broadcast live on NTV broadcaster on Friday.

The number of Syrians in Turkey returning to their country will gradually increase as Syria stabilizes, the minister said.

The White House said it discussed the latest developments in Syria and Gaza with officials in Turkey, and highlighted its interest in the rights and freedoms of Syrian minority groups, and in preventing Syria from being used as a base for terrorism, specifically by ISIS.

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Originally Posted by Hollander
Dutch court rejects bid to halt arms exports to Israel as Gaza war rages
Court says ‘all claims dismissed’ after rights groups file lawsuit to stop arms sales, citing genocide convention.

A Dutch court has rejected a bid by 10 pro-Palestinian NGOs to stop the Netherlands from exporting weapons to Israel and trading with illegal Israeli settlements in the occupied Palestinian territory.

The Hague district court stressed on Friday that the state has some leeway in its policies and courts should not rush to step in.

“The interim relief court finds that there is no reason to impose a total ban on the export of military and dual-use goods on the state,” it said in a statement. “All claims are dismissed.”


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.al...arms-exports-to-israel-as-gaza-war-rages


Really happy with this ruling these Judges understand the interests of the Netherlands and their relation with Israel.


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Has Australia quietly applied a 'shadow ban' on Israelis?
The Jerusalem Post by Danielle Greyman-Kennard 13 December 2024

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  • Has Australia quietly applied a 'shadow ban' on Israelis?
The Zionist Federation of Australia (ZFA) demands answers on long visa waits

Two Israeli siblings were reportedly left waiting to enter Australia for their grandmother's birthday after the Australian government demanded they answer questions on their IDF service

The Zionist Federation of Australia (ZFA) requested that the country’s home affairs minister clarify whether there has been an adjustment in the rules for visa requirements for Israelis, following reports of such a change as Israelis report increasingly long waits

ZFA claimed on social media
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“There has been a noticeable increase in wait times for visas to be issued to Israelis, from a few days previously, to over a month recently”
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“There is a strong belief within the community that this has led to what can only be described as a form of shadow bans or additional barriers in visa processing that has previously not been problematic before October 7, 2023 and the subsequent conflict”

The Zionist Federation of Australia (ZFA) is seeking clarification from the Minister for Home Affairs on recent reports of shifts to Australia’s issuing of visas to Israelis, resulting in visa denials or significant delays There has been a noticeable increase in wait times for visas…

The organization charged that changes whether
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“intentional or not” are adding “to the perception that the Jewish community in Australia is being targeted following a drastic rise in antisemitism”

ZFA called on Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke to clarify the government’s policy publicly and explain any changes

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Has Australia quietly applied a 'shadow ban' on Israelis?
The Jerusalem Post by Danielle Greyman-Kennard 13 December 2024

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  • Israelis left waiting for Australian visas
The Zionist Federation of Australia (ZFA) demands answers on long visa waits

ZFA’s appeal came amid reports that Israeli siblings Omer and Ella Berger were left stranded in Thailand as Australia demanded they provide details of their IDF service before they could be issued visas, according to Australian Jewish News (AJN)

The young siblings had reportedly been traveling to Australia to celebrate the 99th birthday of their grandmother, who survived the Holocaust

All the Berger family were granted visas except Omer and Ella, who were asked to submit a 13-page document, according to The Nightly

The questions on this document allegedly included
1. have you ever participated in any physical or psychological abuse against prisoners or civilians;
2. have you ever been a guard/official at a detention center, prison, or transit camp;
3. have you ever participated in the crime of genocide or a war crime;

Ella reportedly abandoned her hopes of joining her family for the celebrations in Australia, instead returning to Israel, where she serves in the IDF’s Intelligence Corps, according to AJN

Israel’s former interior minister, Ayelet Shaked, was also recently denied a visa to visit the country

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Has Australia quietly applied a 'shadow ban' on Israelis?
The Jerusalem Post by Danielle Greyman-Kennard 13 December 2024

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  • antisemitism rise in Australia
extreme anti-Israeli position of the Labor government in Australia

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu recently cast blame on the Australian government, who have been increasingly critical of Israel, following the arson attack on a synagogue in Melbourne

Netanyahu wrote on X shortly after the fire bombing of the synagogue
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“The burning of the Adass Israel synagogue in Melbourne is an abhorrent act of antisemitism”
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"I expect the state authorities to use their full weight to prevent such antisemitic acts in the future"
"Unfortunately, it is impossible to separate this reprehensible act from the extreme anti-Israeli position of the Labor government in Australia, including,
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the scandalous decision to support the UN resolution calling on Israel,
'to bring an end to its unlawful presence in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, as rapidly as possible'
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and preventing a former Israeli minister from entering the country"

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Demonise Israelis long enough and you get violence against Jews
The Australian 14 December 2024

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  • Demonise Israelis long enough and you get violence against Jews
The keffiyeh crew spends every weekend raging against ‘genocidal Zionists’, then feigns astonishment when there’s a spike in hostility towards Jewish people. Sorry, that doesn’t wash

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Israeli government spokesperson David Mencer claims,
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”Israel is experiencing “heartache” over its current strained relationship with Australia”

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu,
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“Incitement against the Jewish state leads to physical attacks on Jews”

  • one of the many examples
Adass Israel Synagogue in Melbourne, Australia Fire bombed with people inside

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Originally Posted by Hollander
Dutch court rejects bid to halt arms exports to Israel as Gaza war rages
Court says ‘all claims dismissed’ after rights groups file lawsuit to stop arms sales, citing genocide convention.

India’s approach to Israel
The Diplomat by Liyaqat Nazir 07 October 2024

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  • India's Arms export to Israel
The Supreme Court of India refused to entertain a lawsuit from a civil rights organization seeking to stop arms exports to Israel, saying this was a determination for the government to make
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Originally Posted by Hollander
Really happy with this [Dutch] ruling these Judges understand the interests of the Netherlands and their relation with Israel.
Sure thing Wish there are Judges like this, in every Israel's so-called ally, who understand the interests of Israel's allies and their relation with Israel -- Dismissed! No appeals!!

Please! More countries follow suit instead of the Courts being used for political football agenda by "'rights groups"
Endless expenditure of time, resources and tax payer money

Originally Posted by Trojan
Politicians, Refugee advocates, Legal-Aid, Courts etc. Wake up!

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