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What exactly is the Rizzuto Clan? #1112391
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Is it an LCN Family? Is it a faction of the Bonanno Family? I know at one time it was, otherwise no way would Montrealers be sent from NYC to participate in the 3 captains murder. Could it technically be considered a Cosa Nostra clan, just not based in Sicily?

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They were Bonanno decina until the early 2000's when they more or less unofficially separated themselves after many tensions. Now its more or less an Italian criminal organization with links to cosa nostra groups such as the caruana-cuntreras, familial links to potential cosa nostra members living in north America (cammalleri's), and lcn members (arcuri's, scarcella?). But I would not say they are currently part of the lcn or Sicilian cosa nostra, just an independent mafia type group.

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The Rizzuto's are a clan they have still ties to many people are strong but they don't control Montreal anymore.
I do believe Leonardo Rizzuto has reached an agreement with the streetgangs bikers and irish.

After they killed that woman they said the violence has to stop it seems.


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Originally Posted by Moscone65
They were Bonanno decina until the early 2000's when they more or less unofficially separated themselves after many tensions. Now its more or less an Italian criminal organization with links to cosa nostra groups such as the caruana-cuntreras, familial links to potential cosa nostra members living in north America (cammalleri's), and lcn members (arcuri's, scarcella?). But I would not say they are currently part of the lcn or Sicilian cosa nostra, just an independent mafia type group.

isn't most Italian OC presence now a days mostly Ndrangheta clans? only the Rizzutos were Sicilian Cosa Nostra right?

Re: What exactly is the Rizzuto Clan? [Re: Liggio] #1112503
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The Ndrangheta might be the most powerful right now but I think their dominance over the Sicilians have been overstated. Things are forever shifting, these writers don't take that into account. Plus it just sounds good to constantly poke fun at what many consider to be the oldest and most famous criminal organization in the world. Sensationalism sells.

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the rizzuto clan is not just part of the montreal mafia but also a group of intermarried families who can trace roots back to sicily and more specific to cattolica eraclea, the hometown of the rizzuto family.
at this point in time leonardo rizzuto is considered the boss of this clan and a overall boss of the rizzuto-sollecito faction of the mtl mafia along with stefano sollecito.
however i would say that only a small part of the rizzuto clan can actually be said to be involved in criminal activity within the wider montreal mafia. in this respect then L. rizzuto is the point of contact for families with last names; cuntrera, renda, spagnolo, manno, cammalleri, ragusa, sciortino etc. if and when problems arise.

as for the actual definition of the rizzuto-sollecito faction of the mtl mafia in the context of the cosa nostra it is an independent group of allied mafia clans. the mafia in montreal is not unified with a typical admin set up. decades of constant warfare and arrests have fractured a once unified crime family. the rizzuto-sollecito faction is an alliance of two powerful clans (rizzuto,sollecito) that is also allied with the barberio-pizzi clan to control large parts of criminal activity in montreal and surrounding areas.

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Not exactly. Italian organized crime in Canada is diverse and complicated. You have the rizzutos, other Sicilian groups like the caruana Contreras, cammilleris and other smaller ones. Yes there are plenty of ndrangheta groups in Toronto, some in Montreal, thunder Bay, sault ste Marie, ect. But not all calabrese are ndrangheta. You have guys like the musitanos and violis-luppinos who were originally ndrangeta groups but after time integrated with the pan Italian (Sicilian origin) lcn buffalo family. I could give you dozens of variances and exceptions within several of the groups but I would be here all day. Even the rizzutos are not fully Sicilian. They are Sicilian based but have many powerful calabrese, barese and others in their ranks. FOr instance the sollecitos are barese.

Re: What exactly is the Rizzuto Clan? [Re: Liggio] #1112516
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Originally Posted by Liggio
The Ndrangheta might be the most powerful right now but I think their dominance over the Sicilians have been overstated. Things are forever shifting, these writers don't take that into account. Plus it just sounds good to constantly poke fun at what many consider to be the oldest and most famous criminal organization in the world. Sensationalism sells.

Exactly. Most journalists and article writers parrot the same talking points over and over again. You can still see articles that say the Ndrangheta "dominates the European cocaine market" or that they "control 80% of the European cocaine market". Maybe that was true until 2010 or so, there are a lot of big players now. Don't even get me started on the "makes more than McDonalds and Deutsche bank combined" bullshit.

You're right, things are always in flux, and in the last years we've seen evidence that the Sicilians are trying to get into cocaine again on a big level.

Also wasn't there some big pentito a few years ago who talked of a "super cupola" made up of all the mafias and how the Sicilians were #1?

Re: What exactly is the Rizzuto Clan? [Re: Liggio] #1112663
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It seems they broke off ties with Francesco Arcadi who as a Calabrian was always seen as a bit of an outsider but very close to Vito.

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Originally Posted by Hollander
It seems they broke off ties with Francesco Arcadi who as a Calabrian was always seen as a bit of an outsider but very close to Vito.

Then Arcadi and his wife should stop choosing to have funeral-home visitations for their relatives at the Loreto, which is owned by the Rizzuto clan -- it's too confusing for us mobwatchers.

Arcadi's mother-in-law was shown on January 5 and 6 this month:

https://www.complexeloreto.com/en/obituary/marianna-bartolo-sicari/

His sister Giulia was shown on November 20 and 21 in 2022:

https://www.complexeloreto.com/en/obituary/giulia-arcadi/




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Originally Posted by Hollander
It seems they broke off ties with Francesco Arcadi who as a Calabrian was always seen as a bit of an outsider but very close to Vito.


I assure you that isn't the case and I don't know how you came up with that

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It seems they broke off ties with Francesco Arcadi who as a Calabrian was always seen as a bit of an outsider but very close to Vito.


I assure you that isn't the case and I don't know how you came up with that


Because lately with all what is happening with the Rizzutos, the hit on Leo in particular but also Del Balso his name never comes up anymore since his release.

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I thought they just walked up to him, but it was a sniper.

On June 5, 2023, Del Balso was murdered inside his car in the parking lot of the Monster gym.[28] Del Balso had been meeting two Hells Angel leaders at the gym.[27] The murder weapon was a long rifle, which is an unusual weapon as most gangland murders in Montreal are done using handguns.[27] The marksman fired at a distance of 90 meters.[27] A Montreal policeman stated: "The way in which Francesco Del Balso was killed is unusual, to say the least. With this way of doing things, we are at another level. The sponsor wanted to be sure that the crime would be committed efficiently and without any mistakes. Maybe he put a lot of money into it. If so, the question to ask is: who can afford this?"


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Originally Posted by Hollander
I thought they just walked up to him, but it was a sniper.

On June 5, 2023, Del Balso was murdered inside his car in the parking lot of the Monster gym.[28] Del Balso had been meeting two Hells Angel leaders at the gym.[27] The murder weapon was a long rifle, which is an unusual weapon as most gangland murders in Montreal are done using handguns.[27] The marksman fired at a distance of 90 meters.[27] A Montreal policeman stated: "The way in which Francesco Del Balso was killed is unusual, to say the least. With this way of doing things, we are at another level. The sponsor wanted to be sure that the crime would be committed efficiently and without any mistakes. Maybe he put a lot of money into it. If so, the question to ask is: who can afford this?"


Del Balso wasn't killed in his car. He was killed outside after exiting the GYM. Your thinking of another incident where they tried to kill him while he was driving his car but managed to escape.

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"After an interview that lasted "a good while," according to the gym employee, Francesco Del Balso headed into the parking lot. As he was walking toward his vehicle, he saw the shooter coming toward him. It was at that moment that he reportedly turned around and tried to take refuge inside the gym. But the shooter still had time to aim at him. The scene was partially filmed by the establishment's security cameras."

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Yea there's yet to really be anything about Arcadi being on the wrong side for now. There was the usual stuff where Scoppa said in his book that that bunch said "fuck the Rizzuto's" when Vito went away but it's really hard to tell with some of what he said because it was clear he jealous or had issues with a few of the gangsters in Montreal.

The Loreto stuff definitely shows he's in good standing but we can't always go that route either as De Vito was there if I'm not mistaken but then again DiMaulo wasn't

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Originally Posted by Ciment
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I thought they just walked up to him, but it was a sniper.

On June 5, 2023, Del Balso was murdered inside his car in the parking lot of the Monster gym.[28] Del Balso had been meeting two Hells Angel leaders at the gym.[27] The murder weapon was a long rifle, which is an unusual weapon as most gangland murders in Montreal are done using handguns.[27] The marksman fired at a distance of 90 meters.[27] A Montreal policeman stated: "The way in which Francesco Del Balso was killed is unusual, to say the least. With this way of doing things, we are at another level. The sponsor wanted to be sure that the crime would be committed efficiently and without any mistakes. Maybe he put a lot of money into it. If so, the question to ask is: who can afford this?"


Del Balso wasn't killed in his car. He was killed outside when exiting the GYM. Your thinking of another incident where they tried to kill him while he was driving his car but managed to escape.


Thanks for the correction I saw indeed photos he was shot outside of the gym but that it was a sniper is intriguing.
90 meters is pretty far.


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You were misled by Wiki Pedia; It's not the first time that they put wrong information on their site. .

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Yeah fuck Wikipedia. I wish Jerry Capeci would broaden his horizons and report on all organized crime, not just the 5 Families. Afterall, it's called Gangland News.

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Originally Posted by Liggio
Yeah fuck Wikipedia. I wish Jerry Capeci would broaden his horizons and report on all organized crime, not just the 5 Families. Afterall, it's called Gangland News.



Capeci seems to mostly report on what he is told to be his law enforcement contacts. His coverage of Cookie D'Urso was so slanted it got ridiculous, to the point that his coverage of D'Urso is bizarre. He worships him, and gave up the name of the female FBI agent who D'Urso claims was forcing him to have sex every week in a hotel. I think other groups are covered in media, it just gets overlooked on here due to most of us focusing on the American mob.

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Originally Posted by Hollander
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It seems they broke off ties with Francesco Arcadi who as a Calabrian was always seen as a bit of an outsider but very close to Vito.


I assure you that isn't the case and I don't know how you came up with that


Because lately with all what is happening with the Rizzutos, the hit on Leo in particular but also Del Balso his name never comes up anymore since his release.

Lots of names don't come up or don't come up often. Frank Acardi is still around and on good terms.

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Originally Posted by Ciment
As he was walking toward his vehicle, he saw the shooter coming toward him. It was at that moment that he reportedly turned around and tried to take refuge inside the gym. But the shooter still had time to aim at him. The scene was partially filmed by the establishment's security cameras."


Adrian Humphries (National Post) talked about a sniper.


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Journal de Montreal

"He tried to escape

After an interview that lasted "a good while," according to the gym employee, Francesco Del Balso headed into the parking lot. As he was walking toward his vehicle, he saw the shooter coming toward him. It was at that moment that he reportedly turned around and tried to take refuge inside the gym. But the shooter still had time to aim at him. The scene was partially filmed by the establishment's security cameras.

"I heard six to eight gunshots," said the employee, whose identity we will not reveal for her safety. Some of the projectiles missed the target, shattering the windows of the establishment's vestibule.

Del Balso was hit in the head and fell to the ground, face down. The employee in question, trained to provide first aid, rushed to see what was happening outside.

"I wanted to help him," the woman explains. "I wanted to save him, but when I saw his eyes and his look, I understood that he was already gone. There was nothing to do."

La presse also report a sniper shooter from 90 meters away. There may have been 2 shooters.

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Thanks Ciment.


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Originally Posted by Hollander
90 meters is pretty far.


Yep that's a football field length for us Yanks, that's a good ways away for a hit job. I seriously doubt that's exact though because how are you going to spot someone's face and look and realize that dude is there to kill you when he's 100 yards away? Shit we make those shots killing deer all the time and it's not exactly the easiest shot to make on a person much less a deer and a moving person at that as it said he starting moving back towards the gym

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My subscription for The Gangster Report is up, don't think I'll be resubscribing. He charges way too much for lies. It's one thing to be wrong from time to time, but it's a whole other thing to flat out make things up.

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About the same length as the hit on Trump I guess.

In November 2023, the record was once again broken by 58-year old sniper Viacheslav Kovalskyi of the Security Service of Ukraine, who shot a Russian soldier from a distance of 3,800 m (4,156 yd) during the Russian invasion of Ukraine.


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About the same length as the hit on Trump I guess.

In November 2023, the record was once again broken by 58-year old sniper Viacheslav Kovalskyi of the Security Service of Ukraine, who shot a Russian soldier from a distance of 3,800 m (4,156 yd) during the Russian invasion of Ukraine.


The sniper shot was around 125 meters from Trump


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