Many mobsters was blamed because decided to flip for avoid long sentences but you would have the strenght to lost years of your life,left wife and children to stay in a cage?
Some mobsters have sons in the mob so for them could be an incentive to keep the mouth shout but if a mobster dont have a wife or children what could gave him the force to endure the prison?

There is no way to tell, I would not get involved in that stuff. I think those who do should stand up and take their sentences, what we would do is not relevant, we do not go into that sort of thing. If a person does not have what it takes, they should never get into it. If the rat, they deserve all the blame that comes there way, no excuses.

Only time a person should get an excuse for being a rat is if the men who he was loyal to turned on him. Go fuck yourself if you think Im gonna sit in prison for life if I have proof you conspired to make me take the fall for your mistakes.

Other than that a rat is not something you choose to be. For example Frank Calabrese Jr is one of the worst rats along with Nick Calabrese. Henry Hill was a piece of shit also.

Why you said that,Rush Street?

They turned rat after they made mistakes on their own. No one to blame but themselves.

Then they decided to rat others out to save their own asses.

Frank got in debt to his father due to his addiction to cocaine and then decided to rat on his dad instead of serving his sentence and keeping his mouth shut. Hes the definition of why rats get whacked and deserve it.

I never get it why people get so obsessed with rats haha they are a part of life.

Rats can transmit several diseases, known as zoonoses, such as Salmonella, Weil's disease, E. Coli, tuberculosis, rabies, tapeworm, typhoid and trichinosis . Transmission can occur in several ways: By biting mostly.

Lmao

The indians have a temple dedicated to the rats called Karni Mata Temple that are considerated holy and many believers who go to temple get the diseases you mentioned or even die.

No sane human is going to do 50 years for a bunch of lowlifes who are all probably trying to get it on with your wife lol

Ahh yeah that activity used to give me terrible stomach ache. Thank God I stopped

John Pappa get life for 3 murders during 3 colombo war.he was arounf 24 years old.I dont understand why he dont flipped and maybe have the possibility to don't spend his entire life in prison and for what?
The Colombos forgot who is. Now he is 50 years old.

Making excuses, I can see you would not have the strength to do it.

This has nothing to do with strength. This has however everything to do with not being a brainless retard who worships criminals and lowlifes

He asked if anyone here would have the strength if they were in that life. Calling them all lowlifes, retards, and other names shows your ignorance and lack of strength. You would obviously rat quickly, and say whatever was asked of you to say, I don't get the "worship" crap you always spew, No one is worshiping, but you sure are biased. Excuses, excuses, and more excuses.

If thats how a guy feels, then he shouldn't have gone into the streets and lived his life with them in the first place.

Making friends, hanging with knockaround guys, scheming and racketeering together.

Go pick up a lunchpail and go get yourself a regular 9-to-5 job.

BUT, if you wanted to be a tough guy. If you wanted to rub elbows with hoodlums and racketeers and make money in the rackets? Well then, that a completely different story.

If it was good enough for you then -- when you were living high, making fast money and playing the part. Then when you get caught, don't turn tail and run for the hills like a fag.

Thats when you gotta look in the mirror, straighten up your tie, and act like the fucking man you're "supposed" to be!

You know, don't you? The fucking guy you pretended to be in the first place. A bonafide hoodlum and stand-up guy!

And go do your fucking time!

Because -- good or bad -- THIS was the life you signed on for!

And thats true, regardless of whatever bullshit excuses a rat wants to give to try and justify his actions. To do anything otherwise, is the equivalent of being a complete fucking mutt.

Oh, and by the way, 99.99999% of the time, there AIN'T no two ways about that!

For some informants, i think it's not really a question of strength but it's more of a hustle.

Guys like Gravano and Casso, they're hustlers. They were hustling in the streets and turning informant was a way for them to hustle their way out of a life sentence.

We always talked about how weak these guys are but it's not the point. it has nothing to with their strength or weakness, it's just that no matter what situations, they would first and foremost try to find the best solution for them.

It's no coincidence that these two guys went back to crime even after cooperating. As i say, they are always hustling.

Calling criminals who lie, cheat and extort hardworking people 'lowlifes' is a reflection of how society should see them, not as folk heroes or some sort of masterminds, but as the cowards they are. As a civilian who believes in the rule of law, I can proudly say that if I were part of that life, I would be honored to rat on every single member.

Not to praise or condemn the mob, thats not the point or purpose here.

But thats exactly why guys like you should not be in the life! Clearly, you have neither the mentality, fortitude, or "stuff" that it takes to sustain that type of lifestyle.

And if you were in the life, no doubt real street guys (especially the old-timers) would sniff you out in no time. You'd end up in a car trunk. lol.

Generally speaking, I agree with you MV. Guys like Casso, Gravano, Franzese, etc., all fit the bill you speak of.

Bu there were many others (too numerous to count) who went/go to jail every day like men and do their time -- whether that be 10 years or 100 years.

Think Fat Tony Salerno, Bobby Manna, Carmine Persico, Sonny Franzese, Carmine Galante, John Gotti, Frankie Locascio, etc., etc., etc. That list goes on and on... its never-ending.

So there WERE lots of standup guys who proved their mettle time and time again.

IMO the underworld is not black or white, in Italy for example they are actually helping people when the State fails.
Ofcourse the violent part that is what we really see.

No one should be in the life you fucking idiot. Grow a brain! That's one thing I have over you lady

What happened, big mouth? I guess I struck a "sensitive" cord. Is that because in your heart, you know you're such a fucking spineless little weasel? Is that it? LOL

What a fucking little fag!

WTF!
I get threatened with a banning for talking about blacks as if they are factually not able to function like whites. But, this tough guy can call people faggets lol
You’re all a bunch of commies! Move to Canada where Nicaso and the rest of the Anti-Mafia and ni**er lovers are!

Gravano ratted because he feels Gotti was conspiring against him and turned his back on him after all the years of loyalty Gravano gave to him.

If that is true I do not blame Gravano when he was looking at life in prison and taking the fall for a man who betrayed him.

I think this is the reason why he has never been whacked after Pete passed away and John. No one else really gave a fuck that he fucked John over. I bet you most them probably sided with Sammy.

Gotti also brought everything into public view. Ranking mobsters from New York’s five crime families have often cited Gotti’s larger-than-life approach to Mafia life as factors that helped authorities bring down the mob.

The mob was already in trouble, even if Gotti never existed what happened to the mob was going to happen. Same for The RICO ACT. Castellano was on his second big trial. Gravano was a weakling who was afraid to go to prison. The past generations had it tougher, way tougher growing up leading to fewer rats--way fewer rats. John Pennisi Michael and Franzese would be considered girls in the 1940's. Gotti was no larger than life, he was covered larger than life life by a media working along with the government like never before. They publicized him to excess.

Since you are asking Furio, if you joined a group on your own free will, and took an oath not to infomm if facing prison, would you have the strength to do the time?

Hard to say but if my family would helped when I will stay in prison,so yes I'll do my time even if mean die in prison.

I'll answer this one. If I have a guy on tape with other guys I work for saying they are going to kill me to cover their own ass, or send me away to prison and not take the blame themselves, then they are just as bad as the rat they claim me to be when I decide to fuck them over and turn against them. Fuck them all unless I don't kill them first.

This is not a situation where a guy gets in trouble for being a dumb fuck like Nick Calabrese did when he left the glove at the murder scene. Or Frank Gangi who got arrested for DUI and decided to turn on Tommy Pitera.

Yes but with his flair nice Brioni suits and bravoure he was also an easy target.
But It looked better than Gigante in his bathrobes.

Do you guys believe that John Gotti's flashiness and his passion for always dressing the best rubbed certain people the wrong way and caused people to dislike him? Such as guys who were less fortunate than he was?

John was the kind of person that couldn't leave his house unless he looked like a million bucks and I know that can cause people to hate someone. They call them pretentious.

I find it silly but some people get really offended by people like Gotti.

Thank you for a straight answer. It's a good answer too.

Yeah ok, a guy is consipiring against you and wants to have you killed to save his own ass from prosecution and you are going to protect him by taking the fall instead? When you have given your life to protect his and do whatever was asked of you no questions asked for years and years?

Fuck that shit.

This has nothing to do with fucking up on your own and deserving to go to prison over something you in fact caused yourself by making a choice to be involved. You take it like a man and you do the time!

A guy that rats due to not wanting to face the consequence of being in the life is a piece of garbage and deserves to be whacked over it.

But a man who was loyal and murdered people for someone else's benefit doesn't deserve to go to prison due to that person throwing them under the bus to save their own ass.

Yes Rush, but they always go after everyone, not a guy who wanted them killed. Plus, most if not all rats have an excuse that they were double-crossed, and it a lie. If a mob member wants another killed, the guy is dead. If he lives, what makes him rat out everyone, including friends? They are cowards, and don't have the strength. Plus they just want a deal, that is what it comes down to.

Gotti got a bad rep but Sophia Loren loved him they would hang out.

I don't buy Gravano's bullshit for one second.

He knew that nobody was more hated by the Feds or had a bigger target on his back than Gotti.
As long as you can give up a bigger fish ,you can pretty much write your own ticket,and Gotti was a whale.

So Sammy puts on the whole "I was betrayed by John,I realized that he was trying to set me up to take the blame on murders he ordered" fairy tale.

Truth be told,he was never gonna take the fall.
And if I may be more blunt,I believe that his Plan B all along, was that if he ever faced serious time,he always had a sacrificial lamb to lay on the altar of the FBI.

Just my 2 cents.

Thats the best explanation (and the most logical) that I've heard on here about why Gravano flipped.

He was a treacherous piece of shit, who jumped ship as soon as the feds came-a-callin. Period!

...Thats the long and the short of it!