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Re: Debate Solution Please Read
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08/01/05 09:44 PM
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DonFerro55
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Originally posted by Double-J: First of all, it's ridiculous, that mispell has been bothering me the whole time I was reading your post.
And secondly, I sincerely doubt that this thread is about your actions, which I can't even think of. I have to say that threads dedicated to specific members are either regarding congrats or bereavements. Don't think you are so important.
In the GangsterBB senate, the leader of the Evil Empire would like to vote "nay" on all these newfangled moderations and forums, and vote "yea" on the forum remaining as it is. That little sucker of a word always gets me. I'm sorry for mispelling the word, oh great and glorious leader of the empire. :rolleyes: What is all this new nonsense now DJ? I vote "Huzzah" on the disbandment of the Empire into the invalid joke that it is. Another schtick like this is not what political debate needs, but whatever gets you in that mindset. I don't want this thread to be about me, (Like I said), I don't want to even be important, but all this talk about insults and immaturity coming up after my recent posts as of late is quite coincidental, no? Geoff, I understand your perogitive on truth. But I never said "the absolute truth", more-say, My Truth. I believe it to be the bottom line, but that's just me. I want to tell MY solid truth. The Doc
And you liar, teller of tall tales: you trample all the Lord's commandments underfoot, you murder, steal, commit adultery, and afterward break into tears, beat your breast, take down your guitar and turn sin into a song. Shrewd devil, you know very well that God pardons singers no matter what they do, because he can simply die for a song.
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Re: Debate Solution Please Read
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08/01/05 10:28 PM
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Don Cardi
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Originally posted by fathersson: But weren't you a major part of that? It was clear to me that you helped heat it up a couple of notches.
(This is not meant to be a flame, just a point being made.)
I did not heat it up at all. The only point I made to the person who eventually admitted that they intentionally tried to create a controversy with his posts was that I did not appreciate his turning a Factual News Story that I pasted and posted about something happening in India into a political soapbox for his persoanl political agenda. But right here, under this topic, is the proof that some on here just feel the need to call names at others and claim that they are being censored. Let's get something straight here. It is not your RIGHT or my RIGHT to post what we want about others, or our right to freely attack others here. It is a PRIVALEDGE for us to post here, granted by the owner and creator of this site. A privaledge that is afforded to us as long as we stay within the parameters set forth in the rules of this site. And many of us, including myself, seem to forget that at times. DMC started this topic with the hope of making ALL of us realize that we should debate in a respectful and mature manner. He hoped to make us realize that the attacks and the name calling was not necessary, and his intent was to get some constructive feedback on how we all could continue debating without offending one another. But now two posts pop up, one implying that he was stupid in starting this topic, and another stating that they will post their feelings and express how they feel about others no matter what others may think. Two Really constructive contributions. Don Cardi 
Don Cardi Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
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Re: Debate Solution Please Read
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08/01/05 11:30 PM
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Originally posted by Don Cardi: But right here, under this topic, is the proof that some on here just feel the need to call names at others and claim that they are being censored.
I think I missed this in this thread? Originally posted by Don Cardi: A privaledge that is afforded to us as long as we stay within the parameters set forth in the rules of this site. And many of us, including myself, seem to forget that at times I think the top of the section says it all. What more do we need to know?: Talk about "whatever" here - but please keep it respectable! If you don't like certain topics or particular members, please ignore them. (Word games now have their own forum) Oh, and this WAS written by the man who owns and runs this board. Good enough for me. No need for anyone to try and reform it.
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Re: Debate Solution Please Read
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08/02/05 02:14 AM
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I second that, Pat.
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And you liar, teller of tall tales: you trample all the Lord's commandments underfoot, you murder, steal, commit adultery, and afterward break into tears, beat your breast, take down your guitar and turn sin into a song. Shrewd devil, you know very well that God pardons singers no matter what they do, because he can simply die for a song.
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Re: Debate Solution Please Read
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08/02/05 03:16 AM
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Originally posted by DonFerro55: I don't want this thread to be about me, Well, that's good. Because it isn't. 
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Debate Solution Please Read
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08/02/05 04:18 AM
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One of my favourite sayings is "Idiots' mother is always pregnant". That means we cannot prevent idiots from turning a civil political debate into a turmoil unless we favour a strong censorship, which I personally disagree.
My opinion is to leave the boards as they are. We should only try and avoid to be easily heated (that's hard, though), especially when the flammer is not particularly smart. So, when someone comes out with bullshit like "The shoah was a lie" or something like that, well I personally feel it is my duty to reply the way this idiot deserves, but that's all 'cause I think going on would be just time consuming. The only effective arm against stupidity sometimes is silence.
I don't want realism. I want magic! Yes, yes, magic. I try to give that to people. I do misrepresent things. I don't tell the truth. I tell what ought to be truth (Blanche/A streetcar named desire)
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Re: Debate Solution Please Read
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08/02/05 09:05 AM
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Originally posted by DonFerro55: And what I say, though it may seem "snide", "rude" , uncouth or any other choice bubblegum words, is how I truthfully feel. That's your feeling, and no one can tell you how to feel. But my feeling is that just because you think it's ok to express your feelings towards another person here, it does not give you the right to use "snide", "rude," or uncouth words towards that person. With all that's been written in this thread, no one has asked or answered what I think are two simple question. So I'll put it out here. What is so wrong with showing respect towards each other even when we disagree? Can you explain to me why some are finding it so hard to disagree about something without name calling or using "snide" remarks? DS
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Re: Debate Solution Please Read
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08/02/05 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by Don Smitty: With all that's been written in this thread, no one has asked or answered what I think are two simple question. So I'll put it out here.
What is so wrong with showing respect towards each other even when we disagree?
Can you explain to me why some are finding it so hard to disagree about something without name calling or using "snide" remarks? I believe those questions were answered several times, although possibly not directly. Simple immaturity. Can you imagine the furor if, during the presidential debates, John Kerry had called one of George Bush's ideas "stupid"? Or if Bush responded by calling Kerry a "Meathead"? Now, we're not presidential candidates debating here, and I don't mean to suggest that we should be held to the same standards, but still.....
"Difficult....not impossible"
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Re: Debate Solution Please Read
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08/02/05 09:36 AM
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So, everyone seems to agree with NO changes? I assume everyone agrees with the no name calling, insults or putdowns of other members right? And, we are aware of the "report" a post option (although whether or not we use it seems questionable). So, the bottom line then becomes a commitment by everyone to show respect for others opinions or things will remain as they have been. PS: Btw, the name calling doesn't apply to our political figures right?? I have my own "pet" names for a couple that I'd have a hard time NOT using. :p Of course if they were to join the BB, I'd promise not to use them. :p TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: Debate Solution Please Read
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08/02/05 09:51 AM
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Originally posted by The Italian Stallionette: So, everyone seems to agree..... From The Godfather, by Mario Puzo (G.P. Putnam's Sons, New York, 1969): Emilio Barzini: "That's the whole matter then.....We have the peace.....If there are any more differences we can meet again, we need not become foolish again. On my part the road is new and fresh. I'm glad this is all settled." Phillip Tattaglia: "I've agreed to everything here.....But I would like to hear some strict assurances.....Will we have to guard against each other all the time? Or can we truly go in peace with peace of mind?" Vito Corleone: "What manner of men are we then, if we don't have our reason? We are all no better than beasts in the jungle if that were the case. But we have reason, we can reason with each other and we can reason with ourselves. To what purpose would I start these toubles again, the violence and the turmoil?.....Let me swear by the souls of my grandchildren that I will never break the peace we have made." That's as far as I got in the book. Can anyone tell me how it ends? 
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Re: Debate Solution Please Read
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08/02/05 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by plawrence: [quote]Originally posted by The Italian Stallionette: [b] So, everyone seems to agree..... That's as far as I got in the book. Can anyone tell me how it ends?  [/b][/quote]I swear plaw, I didn't it was going to be a hit...I bumped into Don Cardi in Beverley Hills...he said I could have a BB of my own...
Tom: "They shot Sonny on the causeway...he's dead." Michael: "Turnbull is a good man" Shane MacGowan: "It was Christmas Eve babe, in the drunk tank"
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Re: Debate Solution Please Read
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08/02/05 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by The Italian Stallionette: ...idiot, stupid, monkeyface :p etc. Too many others to mention, but you get the idea... Like I always say: If the graemlin fits....USE IT !!!!  AppleOnYa
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
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Re: Debate Solution Please Read
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08/02/05 10:24 AM
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Don Cardi : "No, no Consiglere SC. Not this time. No more meetings, no more discussions, no more Plawrence tricks. Give them one message: I WANT PLAWRENCE. If not, it's all out war. We go to the mattresses and we put all the button men out on the Boards." SC : "The other members won't sit still for an all out political flame war." Don Cardi : "Then THEY hand me Plawrence." SC: "Come ON Don Cardi, Geoff Malta wouldn't want to hear this. This is not a personal thing, this is Business." Don Cardi : "And when they attacked DMC..." SC: "Yes, even the attack of DMC was business, not personal..." Don Cardi : "No no, no more advice on how to patch it up SC. You just help me win. Understood?" SC bows his head; he is deeply concerned. SC : "I found out about this Don Tomasso who attacked DMC. He's definitely on Plaw's payroll, and for big money. Tomasso agreed to be Plaw's Lawyer. What you have to understand is that while Plaw is represented like this, he's invulnerable. Nobody has ever took on down a Lawyer like this one. Never. It would be disastrous. All the board members would come after you DC; the republicans would be outcasts; even the Don malta's political protection would run for cover. So just...take that into consideration." Don Cardi : "Don Tomasso can't stay with Plaw forever. We'll wait." ------------------------------------------------------------ Don Cardi 
Don Cardi Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
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Re: Debate Solution Please Read
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08/02/05 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by Don Cardi: Try reading ALL of the posts FS, that might help.
Don Cardi  (is this a snide remark? should I report this post?) It would maybe help MORE if you just pulled the posters words and showed us what you were talking about. Just like in Ferro55's own words though it may seem "snide", "rude" It "may seem" - to appear to one's judgement. So let us put away the magnifty glasses and stop trying to sterilze the place. There will always be conflict, it is part of life. To some it is the favor or the spice that make the boards worth reading. Signed Ward and June Clever
ONLY gun owners have the POWER to PROTECT and PRESERVE our FREEDOM. "...it is their (the people's) right and duty to be at all times armed" - Thomas Jefferson, June 5, 1824
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Re: Debate Solution Please Read
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08/02/05 10:34 AM
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plawrence
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Originally posted by fathersson: Signed Ward and June Clever  Maybe Ward and June weren't as "clever" as you think. I believe the name is "Cleaver" -- as in one of those knives that you use to chop stuff (or people) up. 
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Re: Debate Solution Please Read
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08/02/05 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by Don Cardi: "I found out about this Don Tomasso who attacked DMC. He's definitely on Plaw's payroll, and for big money. Tomasso agreed to be Plaw's Lawyer. What you have to understand is that while Plaw is represented like this, he's invulnerable. Nobody has ever took on down a Lawyer like this one. Never. It would be disastrous. Tomasso is a good lawyer. What I need is a new consigliere. Cardi had Apple. Look what I got.
"Difficult....not impossible"
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Re: Debate Solution Please Read
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08/02/05 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by fathersson: [QUOTE]... put away the magnifty glasses and stop trying to sterilze the place. There will always be conflict, it is part of life. To some it is the favor or the spice that make the boards worth reading....  Somebody buy that man a drink  !! And to anybody who doesn't like it....  (Speaking as a female, I always secretly wished for a way to use that gesture...much appreciation to the Gangster BB!!) Apple
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
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Re: Debate Solution Please Read
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08/02/05 10:54 AM
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plawrence
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Originally posted by fathersson: Do you really feel like you have to control every post on this board? Tom: Do you have to wipe everyone out?
Michael: I don't feel I have to wipe everyone out -- just my enemies -- that's all.
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