I don't think anyone is treating smokers a second-class citizens, trying to make them feel guilty, or saying that they shouldn't enjoy themselves. I don't think anyone mentioned terms like 'ruining plans' and 'spoiled brats' and 'dirty nasty habit'.

Did anyone say anything like that anywhere in this thread?

I happen to agree that the smokers got a raw deal here. If this were a personal vacation, set up individually with our families, then it would be perfectly understandable and RIGHT for anyone who doesn't like this ban to cancel and go find another hotel, another city, another whatever.

The difference and I think it's a BIG difference...is that this is a GROUP OF FRIENDS who have made plans to get together for a weekend. A close relative of one of these FRIENDS put quite a bit of effort into obtaining accomodations in a nice place, at a very good price. So that approx 10-15 people who most of the year only converse through cyber-space can see each other, relax and have a good time together for a single weekend.

Not a week, not a month. A weekend. Two, maybe 3 nights out of a year.

And for some of us, one stinking night.

The ability to smoke itself has truly become small potatoes here. IMO it's now a different issue.

The issue is NOT who the majority of smokers is...it is the majority of who feels it would be a good idea to switch hotels. And if enough do want to switch, then believe me those who do NOT want to switch WILL lose the special rate. And the party will be split up.

So please don't try this reverse guilt crap. As I've said...it goes both ways. Anyone need more time to think about it? Do we need to hear from other attendees who might not yet have been filled in on the story?

Fine...let's make a decision by the end of the week.

Really looking forward to seeing y'all...

AppleOnYa