Originally posted by raggingbull2003:
It's interesting to finally agree with you on something Plaw, but I feel like you may be contradicting yourself and your liberal views. Arent you a supporter of the ACLU?
What you must realize, and what it seems as though many members here don't, is that just because you are liberal or conservative in your viewpoint on one issue, that doesn't mean you have to have the same POV on every issue.
Too many people label themselves, and then feel that they have to adopt a certain stance on an issue because that's what's expected of them.
Sure I support the ACLU - on most things. But not necessarily
all things. And I don't see any contradiction there.
Originally posted by Sicilian Babe:
Plaw, so now you have no problem with employers who discriminate in their hiring practices? And the Fair Housing Act is just utter nonsense? How can you honestly say that??
Correct. It's
my business -
my private property - and I feel that I should have the right to hire whomever I please for whatever reason I please.
As far as the Fair Housing Act goes, I'm not really familiar with its details. But if it tells me that I can't choose who I wish to sell
my house to, or rent
my apartment to - again,
my private property , then yes, I'm against it.
If you and I were interviewed for a job for which I was vastly more qualified, but the interviewer didn't like to hire women and gave the job to you, you think that's just fine? But they will allegedly lose business because word is going to get out about this? Puh-leeze.
In this case, the interviewer is an idiot if he passes up someone more qualified because he doesn't like to hire women. And eventually, he will lose his job I would think. But if that's his company's policy, as stupid a policy as it is, it's their company and I believe that they should have the right to hire whomever they wish for whatever reason they wish.
And yes, they might lose business if word of their practices leaked out.
I remember being in High School atround 1965 or so, and picketing a branch of what was then First National City Bank because the supposedly wouldn't hire minorities.
I remember thinking to myself that while the bank should have the right to hire whomever they wanteed to, that their policy was stupid and wrong, but it should not be the government that should try and change their policy through legislation, but the people who should change it by not patronizing the bank.
So yes, in general housing discrimination and employment discrimination are not good things, and in principal I'm against them.
But I think a far more important principle to protect is the rights that people should have to deal with their own private property in any way they see fit.
It's the slippery slope again. First there are laws telling us we can't discriminate. And before you know it, there could be quotas, requiring apartment house owners to rent a certain percentage of their apartments to a specific group, or telling business owners that they had to hire a certain percentage of minority group members.
First of all, this story is an utter crock. These women have been together for 22 years, and they have two other children. How did the school NOT know? How was it possible that they didn't notice until they heard the girl speak to the crowd at a game over the weekend?
I can guarantee you what happened. I can guarantee that the school knew all along. However, some tightass parent(s) learned about it at that game, and went to the school, threatening to pull their kids and/or their donations. Instead of doing the CHRISTIAN thing and standing by those who need protection, the school weaseled out. Weenies.
I would agree. The weaseled out, they are weenies, they probably knew all along, it may very well have been pressure from other parents that caused their action, and it was not, IMO, the "Christian" thing to do.
But none of that changes the fact that I believe that they had an absolute right to do what they did.
