Originally posted by Don Cardi:
[quote]Originally posted by Enzo Scifo:
[b] If the Bibel says it, then the Bible is wrong on this subject,and this subject only.
Enzo, how can you quote the bible for what YOU want to agree with and then in the same breath say it is wrong on a subject that you don't agree with? If you believe in the bible, then you believe in it as a whole and not just believe in what is convenient for what suits you.
You've accused the catholic church of being hypocritical based on the fact that you feel that they do not adhere to what the bible teaches, and yet in theory you are doing the same thing.
A person who picks apart what they choose or choose not to believe from the bible is the same as the muslim extremist who picks and chooses those verses from the koran, or the klu klux klansman who picks and chooses those verses from the bible that suit their justification for killing people.
No different.
You either accept what your religion's book teaches on a whole or you don't accept what it says at all. Regardless of whatever a person's religion may be.
Don Cardi
[/b][/quote]You said I have to accept the bible as a whole, or I'd be like an Islamic extremist.
But now you're doing the same thing.
You say you only live by the NT, cause Jesus died for it.
Yet, you're keeping the good things from the OT
(ten commandments, ...), but you refuse the bad things like "kill those who commit the act of being gay".
Plawrence made a very good point about this, and then you stop debating, because you normally don't debate about religious affairs. Yet, you did that for 2 pages, until you started to 'lose' the debate. I know this sounds like a personal attack. Maybe I didn't totally understand your point, but I found this very odd.
And I still want to ask how that we know God hates the act of homosexuality. I know it is said so in the bible, but that could also be written by someone who wasn't enlightend by God. I mean, the whole of Christianity is about love and being good, as SB already said, and a line saying "those who have gay sex must be killed" is somewhat contradictive, no?
It is already 2000 years ago, the Christians were oppressed by the Romans then, and so many could've gone wrong.
