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Re: South Africa OKs Gay Marriage
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12/03/05 07:55 AM
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Originally posted by plawrence: Well I still say sex is fun... I wonder if you could say the same after you had sex with me...  Couldn't resist. 
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Re: South Africa OKs Gay Marriage
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12/03/05 06:17 PM
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Originally posted by MaryCas: I believe my penis was designed for two functions; elimination of liquid waste and procreation. That's the nature of the penis. To perform the procreation part it contains very sensitive nerves and lots of blood vessels Yeah, but I still believe that a Man banging another Man is the most horrendous things a Man can do. And its okay for them to marry? Man & Man? Nasty perverted uneducated bastards.
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Re: South Africa OKs Gay Marriage
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12/03/05 06:18 PM
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Also, I agree with MaryCas.
Totally.
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Re: South Africa OKs Gay Marriage
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12/03/05 07:10 PM
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Originally posted by Vito The Godfather: Nasty perverted uneducated bastards. You've heard about the pot and the kettle, I presume? Originally posted by Vito The Godfather: Also, I agree with MaryCas. Totally. Well, if you do that's fine and dandy. Perhaps you would care to repond to this, then?: I'll make it easy for you. Here's what MaryCas said that you "totally agree with" I think a definition of "natural" is in order here. There seems to be variety.
The word natural is derived from nature, correct?
I believe my penis was designed for two functions; elimination of liquid waste and procreation. That's the nature of the penis. To perform the procreation part it contains very sensitive nerves and lots of blood vessels.
The rectum was designed for elimination of solid waste. No sex organs in there. Here is my response that I'd like you to respond to: Originally posted by plawrence: So MC, by your definition, then, oral sex is un-natural as well.
May I also suggest, that by your definition, heterosexual sex while wearing a condom is un-natural, since the penis is not being used for one of the two natural purposes you mention, but merely for pleasure?
And are either of the above any less un-natural than homosexual sex?
And if they're all un-natural, which, if one accepts your definition, they are, are any of the three any more wrong or less wrong than the others?
Or is it possible that there are three natural uses for the penis:
1) The elimination of liquid waste, 2) Procreation, and 3) To provide physical pleasure
That would seem to me to be quite likely, since, after all, sex is fun. And, when your done responding to that, I'd like to hear yout response to my questions about your previous contribution to this thread, which you have so far conveniently avoided. This post of yours: Originally posted by Vito The Godfather: I am 100% against Gay marriage. God made Man to intercourse with Women, and not for two individuals of the same sex to pretend they are enjoying it. Homosexuality is not natural. I have a feeling marriage between homosexuals will destroy the future of traditional marriages. How about marrying a cousin or a donkey?
Are gay couples even allowed to adopt? Wouldn't it change the kids personality? Behaviour at school? What about telling friends about their parents? And my response: Originally posted by plawrence: Well, since men seem to be also having intercourse with each other, I suppose we could say that God made man to do that as well, couldn't we?
And I suspect that they're not "pretending" to enjoy it, but rather really are.
How will gay marriage destroy the future of traditional marriage? I don't see that happening, since maybe 90% or more of the general population is heterosexual.
Yes, in the United States gay couples are permitted to adopt. And as in any parent-child relationship, the parents influence the child's personality and behavior in school. But there's no reason to assume that the effect of that influence in the case of gay couples and their children will be a negative one.
And what about the kids telling their friends at school? It's only because some members of society have an intolerant view of homosexuality that could cause a problem here.
I will agree with you about one thing, though:
People should absolutely not be permitted to marry donkeys.
After all, donkeys are already abused enough when they are "un-naturally" mated with horses to produce mules. Why abuse them even more by mating them with people? Debate and argument become fairly meaningless when one person makes a point, or points, and the other doesn't respond. So, whenever you have a chance......
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Re: South Africa OKs Gay Marriage
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12/03/05 07:55 PM
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How about nasty and perverted? That a fair description?
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Re: South Africa OKs Gay Marriage
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12/03/05 08:00 PM
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Originally posted by Vito The Godfather: Yeah, but I still believe that a Man banging another Man is the most horrendous things a Man can do. And its okay for them to marry? Man & Man? Nasty perverted uneducated bastards.  Dear people, in the quotes below, you can see the difference between 1. someone who carries my total disrespect and 2. someone I don't agree with, but who I respect and who I consider normal Originally posted by Vito The Godfather: Yeah, but I still believe that a Man banging another Man is the most horrendous things a Man can do. And its okay for them to marry? Man & Man? Nasty perverted uneducated bastards. Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone: I'm against Gay [b]Marriage but what in the world does education have to do with someone being gay? And there are a lot more perverted things going on in this world than just 2 men or 2 women having sex. [/b]
See, we can act as smart as we want, but at the end of the day, we still follow a guy who fucks himself with kebab skewers.
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Re: South Africa OKs Gay Marriage
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12/03/05 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone: [quote]Originally posted by plawrence: [b] How about nasty and perverted? That a fair description? I think I addressed that in the 2nd part of my post  [/b][/quote]So you consider homosexual sex to be perverted, although there are more perverted things going on in the world? I guess it's not fair to ask about "nasty", since that word carries many meanings and I'm not sure which one the original poster means in this case.
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Re: South Africa OKs Gay Marriage
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12/03/05 08:21 PM
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Originally posted by plawrence: [quote]Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone: [b] [quote]Originally posted by plawrence: [b] How about nasty and perverted? That a fair description? I think I addressed that in the 2nd part of my post  [/b][/quote]So you consider homosexual sex to be perverted, although there are more perverted things going on in the world? I guess it's not fair to ask about "nasty", since that word carries many meanings and I'm not sure which one the original poster means in this case. [/b][/quote]I don't consider homosexuality to be perverted but the poster may, I think words like nasty and perverted are different for each person. If he thinks homosexuality is perverted I was just saying there are much more perverted things out there. I was watching the Simpsons I think a year ago and on the episode it used the word "cuckold". After doing research I found a cuckold is a man who likes his wife to have sex with other men. I'm sure people will read this and say that that is nasty or perverted and other people who will say ok whatever and go on reading. Some people might think oral sex is nasty and perverted. I can't/don't take objection to what people find gross or nasty, but when someone says uneducated that I can find objection with.
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Re: South Africa OKs Gay Marriage
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12/03/05 08:46 PM
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I think a cuckold is a man who's wife has committed adultery. I don't think his "liking it" is part of the equation. 
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Re: South Africa OKs Gay Marriage
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12/04/05 05:19 AM
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Plawrence, when you see those Gay priests getting caught raping little kids, then you'd know what I mean by nasty and perverted. What were they rapping?
Little boys.
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Re: South Africa OKs Gay Marriage
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12/04/05 06:22 AM
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Originally posted by Vito The Godfather: Plawrence, when you see those Gay priests getting caught raping little kids, then you'd know what I mean by nasty and perverted. What were they rapping?
Little boys. What do priests raping young boys have to do with gay marriage? That's as bad as heterosexual men raping young girls, which, I presume by your definition, would also be "nasty and perverted." Does that mean there's something wrong with heterosexual relations between two adults?
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Re: South Africa OKs Gay Marriage
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12/04/05 06:32 AM
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Originally posted by ronnierocketAGO: I love the simplistic logic that people have against homosexuality, kinda like that fella from Afghanistan, the one that hates wicked people as well. Osama something. Can anyone help me out here? Dunno why. Maybe you should ask Sodom Hussein though. :rolleyes:
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Re: South Africa OKs Gay Marriage
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12/04/05 06:37 AM
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Depends on which head she chops off.
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Re: South Africa OKs Gay Marriage
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12/04/05 06:39 AM
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Originally posted by plawrence: Depends on which head she chops off. You get to choose. I don't think it makes that much difference.  Good one Plaw! 
"Fire cannot kill a dragon." -Daenerys Targaryen, Game of Thrones
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Re: South Africa OKs Gay Marriage
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12/04/05 11:29 AM
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One problem is that many group gays with pedophiles, molesters, etc. This same mindset is as logical as the ideals of "Super Ancient Aryan Races" that guys like that Adolf once believed, or whatever.
Then again, many people back in the 1950s and 60s in the South really believed that if such things as intermarriage between blacks and whites, especially in the South, would lead to the country breaking down or society being destroyed, blah blah blah. Same garbage was said when people tried to keep the women and blacks from voting, or whatever progressive rights.
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Re: South Africa OKs Gay Marriage
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12/05/05 08:48 PM
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Although I am not proud to be from the country that added the word "apartheid" (apartness) to the world dictionary, I am proud that that same country was the first in the world to legalize same sex marriage (as well as prostitution, euthanasia and perhaps in the near future also soft drugs, cannabis and marijuana that is, NOT all the other drugs that are in fact worse for you than alcohol).
The days when the church / organized religion had something to say in politics we call the dark ages (1000 - 1500 AD) over here in Europe.
As many people in the West (Europe and USA) might agree, a period of "Enlightment" where organized religion is seperated from politics so everyone can truely be free would be a good thing in eg: The Middle East looking at extremists there.
However, when I hear Mr Bush talking about "evil", "crusades", abortion, gay marriage, "right" and "wrong" etc I sometimes wonder wether the pilgrims who founded the US did in fact escape from the Enlightment in Europe. What was the date again, 1492? Mmmm...
Don't worry, our prime minister Jan Peter "Harry Potter" Balkenende will continue to lead the World towards freedom ;-)
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Re: South Africa OKs Gay Marriage
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12/07/05 08:23 AM
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Originally posted by E Lucky R: As many people in the West (Europe and USA) might agree, a period of "Enlightment" The USA never had a period of Enlightment, nor did the Middle east had it. Result: too much focus on religion, every problem is created around religion, every conflict is being connected with religion. Ever see that in Europe? No, because it's not a good thing.
See, we can act as smart as we want, but at the end of the day, we still follow a guy who fucks himself with kebab skewers.
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Re: South Africa OKs Gay Marriage
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12/07/05 08:34 AM
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Originally posted by Enzo Scifo: The USA never had a period of Enlightment, nor did the Middle east had it. Result: too much focus on religion, every problem is created around religion, every conflict is being connected with religion. Ever see that in Europe? No, because it's not a good thing. Enzo, you are making things too easy. First, USA never had an Enlightenment because they were already enlightened, since the American Revolution was basically founded on Enlightenment ideas to the point that this Revolution took even place BEFORE the French Revolution itself. Plus, from an historical point of view, Europe had a lot of religious conflicts, all over the continent, the last one in Northen Ireland.
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