Damn straight I would!

As our troops leave Iraq in their airplanes they should accidently drop a Nuke out the hanger by accident.

DS

Well said Smitty. I can't wait to read more of your thoughts on these issues.

I don't think this is a realistic question.

You can say about George W. what you want but not that he is not good at sticking to what he believes is to be the right path (see his policy on Death Row as Governor in Texas). The only thing he quit so far is drinking.

I am afraid ya'll will have to wait till his term ends and his successor will pull out and clean up the mess.

There is one possibiliy to end it sooner (yet an other parallel with Vietnam): If he would get impeached which he should in my opinion for misleading and lying to his people, a lot more, bigger and worse lies than Clinton (Lewinski) or Nixon (Watergate) if I may add.

This was my first post here, hope you like it :p .

Welcome.

We've had this discussion probably 1000 times over the last year or so. Tell me something though, Are you certain that he lied to the people about Iraq? Is your feeling based on your opinion that he never even seen such intelligence, or that he overreacted to the intelligence that he was given?

I am interested to hear what you base your statement, about him lying, on.


Enjoy the boards.


Don Cardi

And why would we do that? Wouldn't that make us just as bad as Saddam was? Why would we want to kill the innocents that our soldiers are dying for everyday?

I hope your joking DS. Or are you just trying to ruffle some feathers here?


Don Cardi

What good would that do, sir?

Thank you.

My opinion is based upon Colin Powell's public statement that his UN presentation prior to the war (a similar one to the one preceeding the Cuba crisis) has been something he considers to be on of the darkest days in his career and if ashamed of.

There are also stories that the word "Iraq" was uttered by Donald Rumsfeld only a few hours after the 9/11 attacks. The Bush administration has tried to link Saddam to Usama but at the time the link was non existent. Today this is different; Iraq is now what Afghanistan used to be, a breeding ground, source of inspiration and haven for terrorists.

First of all welcome to the BB Lucky!


I think you are referring to the fact that Joseph Wilson (Valerie Plames husband) was sent to see if Sadam attempted to purchase "goldcake urnaium". He came back and reported there was no evidence of it. Later Powell was given the info (which he questioned) but still used it in his speech, and Bush stated, in presenting his case for war, that Sadam was attempting (or did) purchase it, as a fact, when there was no evidence to support it.
Thus part of the whole reasoning for "outing" Wilson's husband, which many think was a retailiation.

The FBI is taking another look (see link) at the alleged forged "Niger" document showing purchase. I, at one time saw this document on-line (can't find it now), which many who have viewed, say obviously looks fake. I'm no expert on how these documents should look, and can only say it looked hastily written and sloppy. But then maybe all of these kinds of documents look this way.

I don't look for the truth anytime soon, but as history plays out, I hope the truth surfaces.

TIS

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[/b][/quote]DS cannot seem to figure out whether we have gone there to liberate the people of Iraq or commit genocide against them.

I think Smitty meant to say soup instead of nuke. Shower everyone in broccoli and water cress soup. Then everyone could lick each other and all be pals. Dip a bit of bread in each others soup filled hair. Yum.

This makes me want to get nuked.

Ok, enough of the stomping on Don Smitty.

Yes, his statement was a bit over the top, but in fairness to him he did end it with a . But I guess only certain people are allowed to kid around without any repercussions from the others.


So let's end the attacks on Don Smitty. You've all had your fun.

How about getting back on topic here.


Don Cardi

It was clearly a joke to me. I can't help but notice that it depends on the person or their beliefs as to when someone is considered to be joking or being malicious or not. Smitty has been getting ridiculed for voicing his opinion on a number of subjects.

Is there really a need to respond to a serious post of his with a ? Yet if that would have been done to other members everyone would have been all over DS for it.

Life is to short not to have fun so will everybody lighten up a little. This subject of Iraq has everybody on edge. So how about we all stop acting like little cry babies and take Smitty's post for what he meant it for as a joke. I met the man in person and I don't think he would want anybody to get nuked. I'm gonna go now and take some asprin for a major headache.

I think people were interpreting the wink for Smitty meaning dropping the nuke 'accidently' on purpose. Not the fact that the whole statement was a joke. Me, I don't give a fuck but I can see why it would upset others.

My soup suggestion was much better. *Wink*

I still don't think so. *Wink*

I really love you Turi.

I still don't think so. *Wink*

[/b][/quote]How about jam then? Everyone likes jam. Shower everyone in delicious strawberry flavour. *Wink wink, nudge nudge*.

Count me in. :p YeeHaa *splash*

Even if it was a joke, then it was a bad joke. Like saying "I'm going to murder you and rape your daughter and fry you cat. It was only a joke, you know."

I guess it's ok to make jokes about God and jokes about gays. I guess that it's ok for some people here to make racial remarks about spanish people. I guess it's ok for some members to make asumptions about people because of the skin color. I guess that its ok for members to say that the people in iraq deserve to get a killer like Sadam as the leader again.

But i guess its not ok for me to make a joke about dropping a nuke.


DS

Ok, back on topic, and I swear to God I'm NOT making this up. A couple days ago while browsing the news, I come across a White House site (supposedly)offering millions to someone who has an "exit strategy" out of Iraq. They had a form to fill out. I thought it was a joke.

That night on both MSN & CNN they report this same thing? I'll be damn if I can find that link now. Can't be true right????? Put your thinking caps on guys. Anyone with the answer may be qualified to be our next President. :p

TIS

Why do you think that I started this topic? I figured that I would get evertone elses ideas, pool the best ones together, and submit them and collect the money! Then I would have treated our crew to a week in Las Vegas. As far as being the next President, not me. You can have the job!


Don Cardi

[QUOTE]Originally posted by The Italian Stallionette:
[QB] First of all welcome to the BB Lucky!


Thanks!

I don't know when it was implemented that suddenly it's so terrible if someone gets offended. Ironic that the p.c. crowd (not pointing any fingers, you understand) accuses this faction and that party of being intolerant, stifling freedoms, etc., etc., etc. But now, no one can say anything that might "offend" someone. Now, no one can put up Christmas displays. Now, you've got to be careful when naming a ball team, for cryin' out loud! Whatever happened to expressing one's personal opinion? Freedom of speech? Yeah, as long as you're on the "correct" side. Seems to me we've got LESS freedoms since all this P.C. crap started. Hardly shouting "fire" in a crowded theater. I just wish people would grow some thicker skin.

It's a shame that every topic seems to turn into a rankout session, a personal attack and a pissing contest.

This "How Should We Exit Iraq" topic was about something that I believe concerns us all, but yet the same culprits insisted on getting off topic with the same bullshit personal attacks. And those same people who are guilty of this don't seem to ever post an opinion about the actual topic at hand!

It's really becoming sickening that we can no longer discuss issues in this thread without the bullshit.


Don Cardi

You got that right DC!! For that matter any thread. :rolleyes:

What a conundrum. There is NO good way out; we should have known that going IN.

a) If we are aiming for a level of security that is sufficient that investors and business in America, we have to continue to have our military being used in limbo for years (perhaps decades) as guardsmen to hold the country together. Our troops, *ours*, will continue to die. They keep getting blown up.

b) If we leave, the country no longer has the ability to defend itself from the civil war that will follow.

Exactly Saladbar!