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Re: Iranian President Questions Holocaust
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12/09/05 05:38 PM
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plawrence
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Originally posted by Don Smitty: This guy was one of the captors of the american hostages. He's an anti semetic slob. I'm not defending this guy or anything, as he is certainly not my cup of tea, but there seems to be some question as to whether or not he participated in the hostage incident. Some of the hostages seem to be certain that he was one of their captors, while others seem equally certain that he was not. ARTICLE
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Re: Iranian President Questions Holocaust
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12/10/05 03:06 AM
12/10/05 03:06 AM
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afsaneh77
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DV, seriously, if some of immigrants in the US decide to initiate a separate democratic religious state (I don't know how democracy and religion goes together) to take part of your country, how would you feel?
The simple fact is, right after WWII and initiation of the UN, Israel (minus Gaza strip and West bank) was established and was recognized as a separate state by the UN. There is nothing countries could do, unless beyond the UN, that can change that fact. Palestinians were made an example for any other country to be more cautious about immigration laws and ownership of land for the foreigners. Now in most countries in the Middle East, you can not own a property unless you are a citizen and in most cases that means your parents must have been the citizen of that country. For example, I know many Iranian immigrants in the UAE, but in order for them to start a business, the need a UAE citizen as a partner, and land for that property entirely belongs to their partner.
Now, there is one thing I really don't understand. Why should we be the voice of Palestine? We have a lot more trouble on our plate than dealing in problems of other countries. Granted that most Persians are Muslims, but we are Shiite Muslims. Now within the Muslim family Shiite and Sunnis have problems of their own, hence what you see is happening in Iraq. It seems that there is no Sunni Arab country to speak for Palestine, a country that never cared for us during the war with Saddam and actually supported that sob. I'm truly sick and tired of this crap that has become the first priority of our government.
About how this guy got elected, you need to know and follow Iran's politics closely to understand what happened, but in a nutshell, this guy although was connected to the religious right claimed to be independent. He wasn't that well known and had not made even a public statement, never was a representative or anything like that but he merely was the mayor of Tehran. He promised that he would solve the economical problems and that's how he lured 17 million voters. But you need to consider that there are around 40 million eligible Iranian voters if I'm not mistaken. And reformers have boycotted the elections for sometime now because we don't have a way to have a non religious candidate.
Don't look forward to an impeachment either; the house of Reps is also in hand of religious right. I think we should've voted, but what's the use? What major break through did we experience while reformers were in power? They couldn't do a thing. This is just hopeless.
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Re: Iranian President Questions Holocaust
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12/10/05 03:19 AM
12/10/05 03:19 AM
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J Geoff
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Originally posted by afsaneh77: He promised that he would solve the economical problems and that's how he lured [xxx] million voters.... That must sound familiar to every American, since EVERY presidential candidate has said that, lying thru his teeth!! :rolleyes:
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Re: Iranian President Questions Holocaust
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12/10/05 11:13 AM
12/10/05 11:13 AM
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Saladbar
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You're so smart kid. So smart I'll quote it to make sure everyone read: Originally posted by afsaneh77: DV, seriously, if some of immigrants in the US decide to initiate a separate democratic religious state (I don't know how democracy and religion goes together) to take part of your country, how would you feel?
The simple fact is, right after WWII and initiation of the UN, Israel (minus Gaza strip and West bank) was established and was recognized as a separate state by the UN. There is nothing countries could do, unless beyond the UN, that can change that fact. Palestinians were made an example for any other country to be more cautious about immigration laws and ownership of land for the foreigners. Now in most countries in the Middle East, you can not own a property unless you are a citizen and in most cases that means your parents must have been the citizen of that country. For example, I know many Iranian immigrants in the UAE, but in order for them to start a business, the need a UAE citizen as a partner, and land for that property entirely belongs to their partner.
Now, there is one thing I really don't understand. Why should we be the voice of Palestine? We have a lot more trouble on our plate than dealing in problems of other countries. Granted that most Persians are Muslims, but we are Shiite Muslims. Now within the Muslim family Shiite and Sunnis have problems of their own, hence what you see is happening in Iraq. It seems that there is no Sunni Arab country to speak for Palestine, a country that never cared for us during the war with Saddam and actually supported that sob. I'm truly sick and tired of this crap that has become the first priority of our government.
About how this guy got elected, you need to know and follow Iran's politics closely to understand what happened, but in a nutshell, this guy although was connected to the religious right claimed to be independent. He wasn't that well known and had not made even a public statement, never was a representative or anything like that but he merely was the mayor of Tehran. He promised that he would solve the economical problems and that's how he lured 17 million voters. But you need to consider that there are around 40 million eligible Iranian voters if I'm not mistaken. And reformers have boycotted the elections for sometime now because we don't have a way to have a non religious candidate.
Don't look forward to an impeachment either; the house of Reps is also in hand of religious right. I think we should've voted, but what's the use? What major break through did we experience while reformers were in power? They couldn't do a thing. This is just hopeless.
"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when it deserves it"
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