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BUSH'S BIGGEST LIE #147414
02/12/06 11:46 AM
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Now that there can be no dispute that George Bush has been a disingenuous president, its time for a poll on which of his lies is the most egregious.

BUSH'S BIGGEST LIE
single choice
Votes accepted starting: 12/31/69 08:00 PM
You must vote before you can view the results of this poll.

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Re: BUSH'S BIGGEST LIE #147415
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Some anonymous motel room.
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Some anonymous motel room.
The briefing did not say "Osama Bin Laden was planning to attack America by hijacking airplanes." It said that the FBI has "not been able to corroborate" such a threat.

Correct me if I'm wrong?


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Re: BUSH'S BIGGEST LIE #147416
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Quote:
Originally posted by dontomasso:
Now that there can be no dispute that George Bush is nothing more than pond scum,
You think so, huh?

Quote:
Originally posted by Don Smitty:
Someday (people) will look back and realize what vision this man (Bush) had and see him for the great president that he really is.
Anyway, let's be fair, here.

Starting off a thread by calling Bushie "nothng more than pond scum" is not exactly what I'd call the first step on the road to intelligent discussion.

On the other hand, of course, I don't expect too many Bush Lovers to vote in your poll, either.

If I were you, though, DT, I'd get my flack jacket ready.

Anyway, that said, I'm not sure that any of the options in your poll were, strictly speaking, "lies".

He may have believed all of those things when he said them, and all of those instances may be nothing more than situations which are indicative of presidential ineptitude, which is different.

Possibly just as bad, but different than lying.


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Re: BUSH'S BIGGEST LIE #147417
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Ill tell you Bushes biggest lie: "God told me to send troops into Iraq"


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Re: BUSH'S BIGGEST LIE #147418
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He who is without sin cast the first stone :p :rolleyes:


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Re: BUSH'S BIGGEST LIE #147419
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Which means what?

That only those who have never sinned are allowed to criticize anyone else?

I guess that eliminates just about everyone here, huh?


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Re: BUSH'S BIGGEST LIE #147420
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Quote:
Originally posted by plawrence:
[Starting off a thread by calling Bushie "nothng more than pond scum" is not exactly what I'd call the first step on the road to intelligent discussion.

On the other hand, of course, I don't expect too many Bush Lovers to vote in your poll, either.

If I were you, though, DT, I'd get my flack jacket ready.

LOL PLAW, and here I thought I was being generous with the "pond scum" allegation ;.

Yeah, I got the flak jacket on!


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Re: BUSH'S BIGGEST LIE #147421
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Quote:
Originally posted by plawrence:
Which means what?

That only those who have never sinned are allowed to criticize anyone else?

I guess that eliminates just about everyone here, huh?
Can't someone joke around???


Dylan Matthew Moran born 10/30/12


Re: BUSH'S BIGGEST LIE #147422
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Oh, if you were joking, my apologies.


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Re: BUSH'S BIGGEST LIE #147423
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You know, DT, your poll question is kind of like the classic "When did you stop beating your wife?"

A better question for a poll would be:

"Which is worse for our country":

o A president who knows the truth and lies to us, or

o A president who doesn't really know what is going on

Actually, I'd prefer the first. At least he's not inept.


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Re: BUSH'S BIGGEST LIE #147424
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Quote:
Originally posted by Mignon:
[QUOTE]...Can't someone joke around???
Really, Mig - you should know better!!

Apple


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Re: BUSH'S BIGGEST LIE #147425
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What about Bush lying about saying he needed court warrants to wire tap, than totally contradicting that 2 weeks ago and saying he didn't need a warrant?


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Re: BUSH'S BIGGEST LIE #147426
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Another Bush Bashing Thread- :rolleyes:


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Why does it have to be Bush bashing to bring up a legitimate question????


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Quote:
Originally posted by The Italian Stallionette:
Why does it have to be Bush bashing to bring up a legitimate question????


TIS
Shame on you if you call that a legitimate question TIS.


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Well, he is the President of the United States, and the most visible leader of any country in the world.

As such, he's also gonna be the most heavily criticized. That just comes with the territory.

And it seems to me we have just as many threads supporting President Bush (even if they are all started by the same person :p ) as we do bashing him.

Not to mention, if not specific threads, all the miscellaneous posts and comments bashing Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and assorted other democrats and liberals.

Seems to me that the bashing is about equal on both sides of the political fence.


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Re: BUSH'S BIGGEST LIE #147430
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Quote:
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[quote]Originally posted by The Italian Stallionette:
[b] Why does it have to be Bush bashing to bring up a legitimate question????


TIS
Shame on you if you call that a legitimate question TIS. [/b][/quote]Oh, I see, it's one of those "don't ask, don't tell" topics. I forgot, this President can't be questioned or criticized, or held accountable. :rolleyes: Shame on you for being so gullible.

TIS


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Re: BUSH'S BIGGEST LIE #147431
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I voted 'Lying about WMD's in Iraq '


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Ditto.


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It's not just the president, it's anyone who holds a political office is gonna get bashed.


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Re: BUSH'S BIGGEST LIE #147434
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Quote:
Originally posted by Don Vercetti:
The briefing did not say "Osama Bin Laden was planning to attack America by hijacking airplanes." It said that the FBI has "not been able to corroborate" such a threat.

Correct me if I'm wrong?
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/bush.briefing/


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Re: BUSH'S BIGGEST LIE #147435
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Quote:
Originally posted by Enzo Scifo:
I voted 'Lying about WMD's in Iraq '
Me too.

No president should ever be shunned from bashing or criticism.


Hey, how's it going?
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Iraq HAS Weapons of Mass Destruction!....oh wait they don't? My bad

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It seems like everybody voted for the WMD.

Did any Republican or Bushlover/addict vote?


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Quote:
Originally posted by The Italian Stallionette:
[quote]Originally posted by fathersson:
[b]
quote:
Originally posted by The Italian Stallionette:
Why does it have to be Bush bashing to bring up a legitimate question????


TIS
Shame on you if you call that a legitimate question TIS. [/b][/quote]Oh, I see, it's one of those "don't ask, don't tell" topics. I forgot, this President can't be questioned or criticized, or held accountable. :rolleyes: Shame on you for being so gullible.


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Sorry, but GW wasn't lying about WMD's.

He saw the same intelligence reports as did Clinton, Kerry, Kennedy, and all the other Dems who ALSO proclaimed that Iraq had them.

But of course, all that was prior to the 2000 election.

Apple


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Re: BUSH'S BIGGEST LIE #147440
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I am not a big fan of President Bush, but DT, I don't like the nature of your poll. Starting off by saying it is indisputable that he is pond scum is not exactly a good way to pose a question. And even though I have not been pleased with the past five years, even I was offended by the wording of your question.


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I believe with all my heart that Saddam had wmd. We just gave him to many opportunities to get rid of them.


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Re: BUSH'S BIGGEST LIE #147442
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Quote:
Originally posted by Mignon:
I believe with all my heart that Saddam had wmd. We just gave him to many opportunities to get rid of them.
Sounds about right Mignon. I'm talking chemical type for sure. At times I think everyone is thinking nuclear.


ONLY gun owners have the POWER to PROTECT and PRESERVE our FREEDOM.
"...it is their (the people's) right and duty to be at all times armed" - Thomas Jefferson, June 5, 1824

Everyone should read. "HOW TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD"

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Re: BUSH'S BIGGEST LIE #147443
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FS,

Just by the comment, "another Bush Bashing thread", leads me to believe we are not to discuss what I think IS a legitimate discussion for fear that it'll be negative to Bush. It is "news" and I think it is important. I always feel around here (and I'm speaking generally, not of you),that it's ok to sing praises to him, but God forbid question him.


As far as the "Congress saw the same info" line, it is great spin, (and done exceptionally well - it worked) but that's not entirely true either. I blame the ball-less Democrats for not emphasizing that.
Congress is NOT a part of the DPB (Daily Presidential briefings). A couple portions, and the entire article link.

'But Bush does not share his most sensitive intelligence, such as the President's Daily Brief, with lawmakers. Also, the National Intelligence Estimate summarizing the intelligence community's views about the threat from Iraq was given to Congress just days before the vote to authorize the use of force in that country."

The article does however, go on to say:

"The lawmakers are partly to blame for their ignorance. Congress was entitled to view the 92-page National Intelligence Estimate about Iraq before the October 2002 vote. But, as The Washington Post reported last year, no more than six senators and a handful of House members read beyond the five-page executive summary."


TIS



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