Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by plawrence:
[b]But if most men are gonna wind up getting one anyway,...
Apparently you missed my entire point...

[/b][/quote]No, I think your point was that no one should have the right to remove a body part of another, so those decisions should be left to the owner of the body part in question when they are old enough to decide for themselves.
But suppose you had a child who was born with, say, ear lobes that were two or three times larger than normal sized ear lobes?
No healh issue involved, they just looked a little ridiculous based on our society's standards.
And the doctor tells you that while the baby was in infancy would be the best time to surgically correct the problem. Just a little snipping.....
Wouldn't you do it?
Now, I know that this example isn't the greatest. All men are born with a foreskin, so it's not considered a deformity, as three inch ear lobes would be.
But if you want to give me a "God" argument, then I could certainly argue that God intended for
this child to have ear lobes that were three inches long.
Bottom line: It would be surgery performed for purely cosmetic reasons.
Look, religious reasons aside, if we could go back several hundred or a thousand years or whatever, and nip the practice in the bud (so to speak), so that today it was the American men
with the circumcisions that were in the vast minority and those without were considered the norm, then I'd agree with you.
But, unfortunately, we
can't go back in time and change the way we've been doing it for so long.
Now, I could be 100% wrong here, but I suspect that when a man's pants come off for the first time in front of a potential lover, that lover is expecting to see a circumcised penis, and that a good many people would, in fact, be completely turned off by the sight of one that wasn't.
If that is not the case, and no one cared, then I think I would agree with you. That's why I suggested a poll, BTW.
Ideally, of course, pants wouldn't be coming off until the people involved were in love, or at least in strong "like", or at the
very least at a point in their relationship at which whether or not the penis was circumcised would make a difference but, unfortunately, we aren't at that ideal point in our society.
Sadly, I must confess that if I found myself involved in an intimate situation with a particular woman for the first time, and her genitalia, when initially revealed to me, proved to be radically different in some respect from what any of my five senses had become accustomed to in the past, I would probably be turned off.