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Re: Adam and Eve is a ridiculous story...I can't believe we teach this to kids #154351
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Originally posted by DonVitoCorleone:
I'm guessing the bible says 'generating discussion' is a sin as well?
No. But common sense says that generating a discussion with providing a stupid argument to discuss, is not so smart.


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See, we can act as smart as we want, but at the end of the day, we still follow a guy who fucks himself with kebab skewers.
Re: Adam and Eve is a ridiculous story...I can't believe we teach this to kids #154352
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[QUOTE]...He posts about this topic (with which you disagree) on a number of boards and you conclude he has no better work to do ...
You call it 'work'?

Even if I agreed with him, posting the same religion-related topic on several different 'boards', no doubt using the same words and same tone of disrespect, on a weekend that happens to be quite a religious one for many faiths...and then especially pointing out that this is the only place he's met with disagreement...is pretty good indication of lack of something better to do.

Like reading the Bible, for instance.



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Re: Adam and Eve is a ridiculous story...I can't believe we teach this to kids #154353
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[quote]Originally posted by AppleOnYa:
[b] [quote]Originally posted by DonVitoCorleone:
[b] I've posted this topic on a number of different message boards, and this is the first one where the majority disagrees with me.
Welcome to the real world.

Further indication that you have little or nothing better to do. You've just admitted that you posted your Adam & Eve 'theory' to a number of boards...apparently just to see the reaction you'd get and or what discussion could be generated.

Apple [/b][/quote]He posts about this topic (with which you disagree) on a number of boards and you conclude he has no better work to do :rolleyes: :rolleyes: [/b][/quote]But it does make you wonder, no? I mean, I could write a thread on 10 radical anti-Korean websites that would agree that the US should drop the bomb on Kim Jung Il and North Korea, and then post it here and get a totally different reaction.

Then again, if these are the kinds of statements that pass as "decent" discussion that a majority would agree with, I would hardly call those sites a reliable way to measure an argument. :rolleyes:




Re: Adam and Eve is a ridiculous story...I can't believe we teach this to kids #154354
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Coincidentally, my sister bought a children's bible today from Toys R Us. I read the Adam and Eve story, and it says God warned them the apple would kill them if they ate it. My fault. For some reason, I remember God just telling them they're not allowed to eat it, and not mentioning consequeces.

Sorry.


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Re: Adam and Eve is a ridiculous story...I can't believe we teach this to kids #154355
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You should try giving the "evil" book a chance, and read one that isn't a children's version.



Re: Adam and Eve is a ridiculous story...I can't believe we teach this to kids #154356
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If an evil book for children like the bible sold at Toys R' Us caught your interest, you should also check out:



"Any American who is prepared to run for president should automatically, by definition, be disqualified from ever doing so"-Gore Vidal
"Conformity is the jailer of freedom and enemy of growth"-John Fitzgerald Kennedy
"The reason the mainstream is thought of as a stream is because of its shallowness"-George Carlin
Re: Adam and Eve is a ridiculous story...I can't believe we teach this to kids #154357
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An even better example of outright oxymoron:



I mean...c'mon...Al Franken, tell the truth? :rolleyes:

I much prefer this particularly accurate portrait:






Re: Adam and Eve is a ridiculous story...I can't believe we teach this to kids #154358
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franken may actually be more dangerous than bill o. b/c we know bill is the devil, but al might really represent this false reality that presents itself for one side but really is representative of the side that no one has yet to implant in their foremost consiousness......most scholars of history know the german nobles steamrolled the rise of napolean, and that the vatican supported the invasion of poland in ww2, and of course 9-11 is BULLSHIT...(do the research, or try to fly a plane sometime and see how hard it is to guide for more than 6 seconds) BUT GOD IS undecided.....my father has a father who has a father, who has a father....who has a father....who has a father....who has a father.....who has a father....who has a father.....who has a GOD father BIATCHES.....YEAH HAPPY EASTER



Re: Adam and Eve is a ridiculous story...I can't believe we teach this to kids #154359
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Er...Ice, it may not be my place to point this out to you, but given every thing we know, how exactly was 9/11 "bullshit?"



Re: Adam and Eve is a ridiculous story...I can't believe we teach this to kids #154360
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ice:
franken may actually be more dangerous than bill o. b/c we know bill is the devil, but al might really represent this false reality that presents itself for one side but really is representative of the side that no one has yet to implant in their foremost consiousness......most scholars of history know the german nobles steamrolled the rise of napolean, and that the vatican supported the invasion of poland in ww2, and of course 9-11 is BULLSHIT...(do the research, or try to fly a plane sometime and see how hard it is to guide for more than 6 seconds) BUT GOD IS undecided.....my father has a father who has a father, who has a father....who has a father....who has a father....who has a father.....who has a father....who has a father.....who has a GOD father BIATCHES.....YEAH HAPPY EASTER
Oh, I hear the stampede coming now.

You're goin down, bud.


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Re: Adam and Eve is a ridiculous story...I can't believe we teach this to kids #154361
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Well, at least he's right on Bill O'Reilley being the devil.



Re: Adam and Eve is a ridiculous story...I can't believe we teach this to kids #154362
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I can give a shit less about Al Franken.

That's how you silly political parties operate, one side provides one example, you retort with one of your own.

All I know, is from watching Bill O'Reilly on television, this man really is full of himself, regardless of where you stand on the political scale.


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Re: Adam and Eve is a ridiculous story...I can't believe we teach this to kids #154363
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turn off your television and cancel your subscription to the new york times. go to INFOWARS.COM



Re: Adam and Eve is a ridiculous story...I can't believe we teach this to kids #154364
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even charlie sheen is on board now...thats gotta scare u
hes a tough s.o.b



Re: Adam and Eve is a ridiculous story...I can't believe we teach this to kids #154365
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Actor Charlie Sheen made history when he first questioned the official story of 9/11, calling it the "biggest conspiracy theory of them all." Sheen's comments sent shockwaves across the alternative media and have been one of the biggest stories on the internet for weeks. The story also garnered prime time coverage by major news outlets including CNN, FOX News, and hundreds of newspapers worldwide.

Following his brave step into the spotlight over his 9/11 questions and the ensuing backlash of attacks and hit pieces, Sheen issued an email statement to the media demanding that he be challenged on the facts instead of junior high name-calling. Not one single mainstream media outlet has had the nerve to take Sheen up on his challenge.
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Only a few days after Sheen's story broke in the mainstream press, sources within FOX News and CNN told Alex Jones off-the-record that there was a concerted effort from their companies' management to "kill" the Sheen story and to end any favorable coverage of the 9/11 Truth Movement. Producers were given this dictate despite the record high ratings and positive audience feedback that was received from coverage of the Sheen 9/11 story.

On Friday, April 14th on ABC's Jimmy Kimmel Live talk show, Sheen once again brought forward his questions about the official story to tens of millions of Americans. When asked by host Jimmy Kimmel about the statements he made on The Alex Jones radio show, Sheen succinctly remarked, "I just had questions, I had a lot of questions."

He went further, decrying the media's treatment of his statements, noting that "[the mainstream media] didn't really take a look at any of the stuff I was asking them to look at, any of the evidence or any of the stuff that generated those questions..." instead they spun it into the story of whether or not he was "qualified" to question the government.

"I felt the only real validation that I needed was being a tax paying citizen that loves my country," Sheen expressed to a powerful round of applause from the studio audience. Sheen continued, "What happed to the time in this country when we were entitled, when we had a constitutional and a God-given right to be curious about things that didn't make sense."

When asked by Kimmel what had brought him to pose his questions about the official story, Sheen replied, "I've done a lot of research," then referred to the growing number of high-profile individuals who have already bravely stepped forward to ask questions about 9/11, stating "...its not just me, its the people that have come before me - the experts and the engineers, the physicists and the scientists and the scholars, that raised a lot of these things and I took a look at their research and said yeah, it doesn't add up, a lot of it doesn't add up, hence these questions."

Before Kimmel moved the discussion to another topic, Sheen was careful to remind the audience, "There are two areas: Building 7 and the five frames from the Pentagon. Don't listen to me, do your own research."

Following the broadcast of the Jimmy Kimmel Live show, Alex Jones spoke with Sheen about his views concerning the interview. Sheen made the following statement:

"This is a landmark moment in the 9/11 Truth Movement. We have fired a flaming arrow into the heart of the myopic propaganda posing as the irrefutable official story. Come one, come all, the floodgates have opened! Reveal your patriotism."

In response Alex Jones stated, "In my 12 years of broadcast, I have broken hundreds of stories that have gained national attention, but none have captured the imagination of the people like Charlie Sheen's statements on 9/11. Universally people recognize that his courageous stand has smashed the floodgates and the tide has now turned. The 9/11 Truth Movement saw its birth over four and a half years ago and it witnessed an unprecedented infusion when Charlie Sheen spoke out. "

"The bottom line is that people resonate with Charlie Sheen's courage. The average man or woman understands that Sheen is taking a risk by saying aloud what they have only thought about in secret: 9/11 was an inside job and the foundational event for the police state growing in America and the pretext for the ongoing wars for global empire.”



Re: Adam and Eve is a ridiculous story...I can't believe we teach this to kids #154366
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If everybody stopped believeing in God all of a sudden, would He still exist?


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Re: Adam and Eve is a ridiculous story...I can't believe we teach this to kids #154367
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Yes. God (according to my beliefs at least) exists independently of His perception in the feeble human mind. God Almighty is so much more powerful, strong, and vast literally all-incompassing, that it is truly impossible for the human mind to come even close to truly understanding his greatness. Men and women over the years have come close, Muhammad, Jesus, Moses, Abraham etc. being the best examples I can think of, but no human being I believe has the capacity to truly and fully understand the totality of God Almighty. Now if it were possible that God gave a human being this power for even a second would it be possible, that is a very charged metaphysical question and I cannot answer it. The religious person would say, yes, of course it is possible right? God can do any thing he wants right? Well, can God create three more gods? How about four or five or six or seven? Can God create a burrito so potent and spicy that even He dare not eat it? :p

Anyways, yes, God exists whether the whole of humanity believes in him or not a single, solitary soul. It's awfully arrogant (in my opinion) for us to think that God would stop existing if we rejected him or stopped believing in him.



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It's awfully arrogant (in my opinion) for us to think that God would stop existing if we rejected him or stopped believing in him.
For you, yes.

Not for me. I am not religious, I don't believe in any god. Therefor, no god exists. For me. So Capo's question doesn't apply to me.


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Exactly, and that's perfectly good. I would be a temendously huge hypocrite if I were to say that I'm at peace with my religious beliefs and then go around and try to convert another person. However, I do believe that regardless of whether you, me, Capo, or whoever believes or doesn't believe in the existence of God, He exists regardless.



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Originally posted by Don Jasani:
He exists regardless.
Not for me.


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See, we can act as smart as we want, but at the end of the day, we still follow a guy who fucks himself with kebab skewers.
Re: Adam and Eve is a ridiculous story...I can't believe we teach this to kids #154371
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But if everybody stops believing, what power does He have? What could He do?


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Re: Adam and Eve is a ridiculous story...I can't believe we teach this to kids #154372
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Yeah, that's like what Lisa was explaining to Bart in the Simpsons:

Lisa: "What is the sound of a tree falling, when nobody actually hears it fall?"

Bart: "Easy. Krrrrrr Booooom! "

Lisa: "But is there really sound of there is nobody to hear it?"

Bart, with gazing eyes: "Woow"


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...and Bart's answer seems the only one that everybody else can offer, too.


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As for people who ignore the Bible; God gave you free will to ignore it. Have fun, but own up to what you do.

As for the people who read it; The ignorant ones have free will, so let God figure out their punishment

Don't like the Bible? Then don't talk about it. Why discuss something you take no stock in? Just go on your heathen little way and leave the rest of us alone. Stop knocking my God.


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But I see no reason why God would want to punish the "ignorant". Which it is not, since it is a conscious decision to not believe. The only reasonable definition of any God is the freedom for all other freedoms.


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even charlie sheen is on board now...thats gotta scare u
hes a tough s.o.b
Oh yes. The guy from "Two and a Half Men" ranks right up there with the Zodiac killer, John Wayne Gacy, and BTK. :rolleyes:

Anyone want to check this guys ISP address, since he sounds like another "friend" of ours who had a very similar viewpoint?

BTW - Ice - we vanquished this "conspiracy" in another thread started by Don Rico. Search for it. It will enlighten you, I'm sure.



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