Well, unlike Mario I will not have the opportunity to taste the pie in question. So I will have to stand by the opinion that it looks unappetizing.

of course, the quality of sauce is as important to a good pie as is the cheese...so I'm sure the one pictured had that.

But still, the cheese is what MAKES it a pizza. Without it, you just have bread & sauce.

Apple

I have to agree with Apple on this one. Without all that luscious, drippy cheese, it isn't really a pizza is it? And it's got to be GOOD cheese that is freshly grated. Of course, the Half Moon in the Belmont section of the Bronx makes a damn good pie, too. OK, I surrender!! I MUST have pizza tonight!! And some Italian ices, too! Hmmmm, lemon or cherry? Maybe chocolate!!

Yada yada yada. :p

The mozzarella is under the sauce, but your observation is correct, there is not a lot of it. The ironic thing is that their round pizza is full of mozzarella, more than your usual round pie.

Their sicilian is simply delicious!


Don Cardi

The mozzarella is finely grated on that pie. Anyway, what do you and Apple know about real Brooklyn pizza? :p

Now, talking about Italian Ices, THIS is the place that you want to go for the best italian ices :

http://www.ralphsices.com/welcome.html


Don Cardi

Brooklyn?? Puh-leeze!! :rolleyes: Not to turn this into a turf war, but everyone knows that the best pizza in NY was always found in the Bronx...

Edited to Add: Ralphie's? Well, they almost had me until they mentioned that they have a location in North Carolina! What do they know from Italian ices in North Carolina?

There's a place named 'Brooklyn Pizza' in a shopping center near me. They use only fresh mozzarella on their pies and it's sliced, not grated.

Yummy crust, too...very light & fluffy.

Apple

IMO these are some of the best Pizza places that I've eaten pizza from in New York :

Lombardi's Pizza near little Italy. A brick oven style pizza with fresh mozzarella, fresh tomatoes, etc.


Totonno's in Coney Island. People line up almopst everyday and they only make a certain amount of pies and once they are sold out, the owner closes the place. And if you are waiting on line outside and he reached his quota of pies made for that day, tuff luck. Excellent pizza though.

World-Famous Original Ray's Pizza which originally was opened by two brothers from Italy. The original place was opened on 6th Avenue and 11th St in Manhatten.

Deninno's in Staten Island. Simply one of the best "bar" pies in the five boroughs.

L&B Spumoni Gardens is the place that makes the pizza that I posted the picture of above.


Don Cardi

The original Ralph's is on Staten Island, directly across from Deninno's Tavern, one of the Pizza places that I posted about in my last post. They open from April until September and during July and August, people come from as far as south Jersey to eat their ices and the lines are unbelievable.

The other places are basically franchises of the original Ralphs.

A perfect friday summer night is Pizza at Deninno's Tavern and then a walk across the street for fresh homemade italian ices at Ralphs.


Don Cardi

Well, it's pretty easy to see where this 'Pizza War' has gone.

I don't notice any riveting conversation about great Chicago pizzerias!!!

:p

Apple

Ah, c'mon DC!! I was just squeezing your shoes! Everyone knows that the best pizza is at Martio's! And they make their own ices and gelati every day, too!

I got a good idea!!!! How about we find a good pizza joint in Philly for Friday nights dinner? Anybody?
I realize that any pizza place there won't be as good as the ones in NY.

Uhh,... Philly is for cheesesteaks, not pizza. Come to think of it - there's a pizza place by me that makes a killer cheesesteak pizza!

I don't have a stake in Friday's gathering...but I agree with JGeoff that Philly is probably not the place to go looking for a pizza dinner.

Unless of course, you go to La Veranda on Friday, share a few pies there, and then find something else for Saturday!!



Apple

I'll bet most pizza from the East would be a treat (well, at least for me). Not that CA doesn't have good pizza, but let's face it, back East is known for having the best. Although Geoff's got a point, how can we be in Philly and not try a cheese steak???


TIS

Yes, you do.

Because if you guys can start concentrating on Friday, then maybe the tattered pieces of Saturday will simply fall into place by the time I stumble onto the scene.

By GAD...we've gone & hijacked the pizza wars thread!!!

Apple

That's because it seems like everybody here is from the NY region. But it's foolish to say that there are no great Chicago pizzerias. I've been to at least one and it was damn good.

Frozen desserts.... Shoe squeezing.... any other fetishes you wanna talk about?

Having gone to college in Illinois I was introduced to the deep dish style shortly after I learned I love beer. They go great together!!

I've eaten pizza all over the country and I prefer the New York style. Its only fair to say, though, that some New York pizza sucks (like the aforementioned Ray's .... its way too doughy and the sauce isn't anything special). I had one GREAT pizzeria in the old neighborhood that combined a thin crust with a good tasting sauce, fresh cheese and just the right amount of olive oil that combined for a slice of pure heaven (I wax poetic, don't I?).

The square (Sicilian style) pizza that Don Cardi pictured is simply the best pizza I've EVER had. Its so good its almost a sin.

I've had plenty of Chitown deep dish that I loved, and I've had some very thin (crispy) crust pizza from downstate Illinois that I used to enjoy.

I guess its what you get used to.

Wait a second. Let me understand this. You live in Chicago and you've only been to ONE Chicago pizzeria? Am I reading your post correctly?


Don Cardi

Speaking of pizza, I can't understand how pizza with pineapple and/or ham go together??? I like both, but not on pizza. Then again, I like anchovies on my pizza, but am use to not having them, since most people don't like anchovies. Pepporoni, black olives are good toppings though, and of course extra cheese.


TIS

Saturday has already been decided.

As for Friday, I've already made reservations at The Babylon Club.


Don Cardi

Frozen desserts.... Shoe squeezing.... any other fetishes you wanna talk about? [/b][/quote]Not in public, but as Mae West said, Come up and see me some time....

Let's set the meeting. Get our informers to find out where it's gonna be held. Now, we insist it's a public place -- a bar, a restaurant -- some place where there's people so I feel safe. They're gonna search me when I first meet them, right, so I can't have any cheesecakes on me then.

But if SC can figure a way -- to have a couple of cheesecakes planted there for me -- then I'll freeze 'em both.


Don Cardi

It has

Yeah, sure, I do. It's perfect for us. LAVeranda's a family place, good food. Everyone minds his

business. It's perfect. SC they got an old-fashion' toilet -- you know, the box, and and and ah the chain-thing. Put the frozen cheesecakes in a Tupperware cake pan We might be able to duct tape the cake pan behind it.


All right. Don Cardi: you go to the restaurant, you eat, you talk for a while, you relax. You make them relax. Then you get up and you go take a leak. No better still you ask for permission to go. Then when you come back, you come out throwin those frozen cheesecakes and don't take any chances two shots in the head apiece.

It has [/b][/quote]Thank you, Mig...my thoughts exactly!

I was beginning to wonder if I had missed a post or something.

Apple

It has [/b][/quote]Thank you, Mig...my thoughts exactly!

I was beginning to wonder if I had missed a post or something.

Apple [/b][/quote]It has??/ Where?? When?

It has [/b][/quote]Thank you, Mig...my thoughts exactly!

I was beginning to wonder if I had missed a post or something.

Apple [/b][/quote]The both of you have to be kidding me!