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Re: Mel Gibson -- Media Food
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08/05/06 09:35 PM
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Sicilian Babe
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I don't know why the media, and we as Americans, are so very impressed with actors, musicians, etc. We want to know all about them, their children, their spouses/divorces. Why is that?? Just like the people who cry and cry over celebrity deaths. Why?? Would they cry if you died?? Not a tear.
I could care less about Mr. Gibson, his drinking and his personal beliefs. Let him drink and curse anyone he wants, as long as he doesn't physically hurt anyone. There will always be stupid people in the world. Just because some of them make their living in the public eye, why are we so surprised and scandalized????
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Re: Mel Gibson -- Media Food
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08/06/06 07:28 PM
08/06/06 07:28 PM
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Enzo Scifo
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Eeeh, what`s the problem between Mel and Jews?
Sorry, maybe I am weird, but I am one of those who doesn`t care for Mel, doesn`t know about his family life, and hates his movies.
Let me guess, was the Passion (which I didn`t see) maybe a bit unnuanced, like towards the Jews?
See, we can act as smart as we want, but at the end of the day, we still follow a guy who fucks himself with kebab skewers.
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Re: Mel Gibson -- Media Food
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08/07/06 07:40 AM
08/07/06 07:40 AM
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Double-J
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Originally posted by Enzo Scifo: Let me guess, was the Passion (which I didn`t see) maybe a bit unnuanced, like towards the Jews? Some Jews didn't care for it because they felt that it portrayed the Jews as the people who killed Christ. Of course, last time I checked, the Pharisees were Jews, and they rejected Barrabus and told Pontius Pilate to crucify Jesus, so... :rolleyes:
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Re: Mel Gibson -- Media Food
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08/09/06 08:00 AM
08/09/06 08:00 AM
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afsaneh77
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If you want to rely on what Holy books have to say about who crucified Jesus and just to make controversies worse, according to Quran, Jesus was never crucified. God took him to Heaven before they could lay hands on him and made Judah look like Jesus for his betrayal so they actually killed Judah. I'm not sure why some people get so much worked up because of a movie someone made. A movie only reflects personal opinions and is not a historical fact. As it is wrong to label a race or religion for what their ancestors did, we shouldn't crucify people for their opinions. Unfortunately crucifying Jesus does not go past his name and case, and no one tries to draw parallel analogies between this story and what happens in everyday life. If you look closely Jesus or what he stood for is being crucified everyday by our lack of tolerance regarding personal beliefs. As for Mel Gibson, I like him a lot as an actor and very much enjoyed his Passion. Also many other movies he acted in, especially Maverick. I really don't follow the news of his DUI. If you don't like or don't care about his personal life, you could simply ignore such media coverage as well. But why media focuses on such cases is because celebrities and even politicians are often considered role models by their fans. When someone shares his opinion through making movies or acting; or comes to the spotlight of politics people feel as if they know that person and his/her lifestyle is being followed closely. If there was no demand for such media coverage, the media would have dropped the case weeks ago. Lack of dead role models for most people ( ) and the need for having one is what makes people interested in the personal lives of celebrities.
"Fire cannot kill a dragon." -Daenerys Targaryen, Game of Thrones
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Re: Mel Gibson -- Media Food
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08/09/06 10:56 AM
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Who killed Jesus?
As Catholics, we are taught and believe that we all put Jesus on the cross - that as Lord and Redeemer, he died for our sins.
The Last Supper and Crucifixion are observed at every Mass, and the message of the death and resurrection is one of love and redemption, certainly not blame and hate.
Those that may exploit the crucifixion as a basis to fuel their own animosity and prejudices discredit the sacrifice of Jesus, who said on the cross, "Forgive them, Father, they know not what they do."
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Re: Mel Gibson -- Media Food
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08/09/06 03:19 PM
08/09/06 03:19 PM
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dontomasso
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Originally posted by Sicilian Babe: Just wanted to step in here. Realistically, if anyone is responsible for Jesus' death, it is God Himself. If you truly believe in the bible, God gave us His only son, whose blood was to be shed for mankind. It was preordained that He would die in the manner He did, and then rise to take His place at the right hand of The Father. If you believe this to be true, then whoever sentenced Jesus to death and carried out His execution was only fulfilling the role that God had in mind for them. Exactly right. BTW doesnt this make Judas a good guy?
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Re: Mel Gibson -- Media Food
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08/09/06 11:09 PM
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Double-J
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Originally posted by Sicilian Babe: Just wanted to step in here. Realistically, if anyone is responsible for Jesus' death, it is God Himself. If you truly believe in the bible, God gave us His only son, whose blood was to be shed for mankind. It was preordained that He would die in the manner He did, and then rise to take His place at the right hand of The Father. If you believe this to be true, then whoever sentenced Jesus to death and carried out His execution was only fulfilling the role that God had in mind for them. The point (at least mine) wasn't who was to blame per se, rather, that by portraying something as historically accurate, the Passion was accused of anti-semitism.
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Re: Mel Gibson -- Media Food
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08/10/06 09:31 AM
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Double-J
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Originally posted by Tony Love: By the time I finished watching Passion I was ready to kill a Jew or two, then I realized that Jews were cool, so I watched Schindler's List and was ready to kill a Nazi. Nazi's aren't cool! :p You'd better not watch Indiana Jones, or you'll be off to save the Holy Grail from the Nazis.
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Re: Mel Gibson -- Media Food
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08/10/06 04:50 PM
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Enzo Scifo
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Originally posted by Tony Love: By the time I finished watching Passion I was ready to kill a Jew or two, then I realized that Jews were cool, so I watched Schindler's List and was ready to kill a Nazi. Nazi's aren't cool! I did the same, but I went on and watched American History X. Then I realized Nazi's are cool, and I was ready to hate a black or two. Did I misunderstood that movie? :p
See, we can act as smart as we want, but at the end of the day, we still follow a guy who fucks himself with kebab skewers.
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