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Re: SUSPECT IN CHILD MURDER CASE #163425
08/28/06 05:03 PM
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Apparently the DNA evidence is ruling out this nutjob as the killer. It looks like his "admission" was fake.


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Re: SUSPECT IN CHILD MURDER CASE #163426
08/28/06 05:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by SC:
Apparently the DNA evidence is ruling out this nutjob as the killer. It looks like his "admission" was fake.
Didn't I hear something about his possibly being involved in some other kind of case that was being investigated involving another child?


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Re: SUSPECT IN CHILD MURDER CASE #163427
08/28/06 10:08 PM
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So he's not the killer of JonBenet Ramsey.

The guy is still a sicko...he has a sick fascination with children (bordering on pedophilia)...not to mention the son of a bitch is (was) a school teacher.

I say extradite his ass back to Thailand and let them deal with him. I'm sure they'd punish him in a manner fitting for a person like him.


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Re: SUSPECT IN CHILD MURDER CASE #163428
08/29/06 03:46 AM
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What I find fascinating is now his lawyers are taking the public stage crying about how disgusted they are by the fact that their client was brought back to face these charges. They're crying that there was no physical evidence to support expediting their client.

You know what I say to these lawyers? "FUCK YOU, ASSHOLES! Your client lead the authorities to believe he did it!!!"

This publicity seeking Bozo should be forced to reimburse the government for all the expenses paid out to bring him back!


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Re: SUSPECT IN CHILD MURDER CASE #163429
08/29/06 08:57 AM
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The guy is a nut case. He is going to be extradited to Calif. to face charges there (hopefully). Only in America, folks. I'm sure he's guilty of something, but the Ramsey murder wasn't it. How about being stupid in a no-stupid zone? Send him to Chino or Folsom and let the population there deal with him. Maybe he could be a cellie with Scott Peterson.

Re: SUSPECT IN CHILD MURDER CASE #163430
08/29/06 09:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by xXx_DoN_CoRLeOnE_xXx:
I say extradite his ass back to Thailand and let them deal with him. I'm sure they'd punish him in a manner fitting for a person like him.
Then again, he was fine and dandy in Thailand until he confessed this.


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Re: SUSPECT IN CHILD MURDER CASE #163431
08/29/06 02:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by SC:
Apparently the DNA evidence is ruling out this nutjob as the killer. It looks like his "admission" was fake.
The biggest non-surprise of the month.


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Re: SUSPECT IN CHILD MURDER CASE #163432
08/30/06 07:34 AM
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What a whack-job this Jon Mark Karr is!

From CNN.com

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D.A.: Karr believes he killed JonBenet

BOULDER, Colorado (CNN) -- John Mark Karr believes he killed JonBenet Ramsey even though "he is not the killer," Boulder County District Attorney Mary Lacy said Tuesday.

In a news conference in Boulder, Lacy and staff members from the Boulder County district attorney's office addressed how DNA evidence released Monday showed Karr could not have committed the killing he confessed to when he was arrested in Bangkok, Thailand, earlier this month.

Karr will remain in a Colorado jail pending extradition to California on child pornography charges, a Colorado judge ruled Tuesday.

In California, Sonoma County Superior Court Judge Cerena Wong sealed documents, including the arrest warrant, in the child pornography case.

Wong acknowledged that Karr is "newsworthy" but said sealing the documents protects his right to a fair trial. The privacy rights of minors involved in the case also need to be protected, she said.

At a hearing in Colorado, Boulder District Judge Roxanne Bailin ordered Karr returned to California because he agreed to extradition as a condition for being granted bail in 2001. He never showed up for court.

Bailin gave California authorities until September 13 to pick up Karr from the Boulder County Jail.

Shackled at the wrists and ankles, Karr appeared in a blue jail uniform with a white undershirt. He appeared calm during most of the hearing but grew agitated when prosecutors refused to return a photo to him -- a copy of the last known photograph of JonBenet Ramsey and her mother, Patsy.

The district attorney's office in Boulder is closing its case against Karr.

"John Karr sincerely believes he killed JonBenet Ramsey, there's no question in his mind about that," Lacy said.

She said Karr still believes, even now, that he killed the young girl even though evidence points to someone else.

"The way he told the story (of how JonBenet died), the DNA would have been his and it was not," Lacy said. "He is not the killer."

Lacy said she has little sympathy for Karr because he "inserted himself" into the case.

Lacy said that investigators took surreptitious DNA samples in Bangkok from Karr, who said he was present in JonBenet's Boulder home when she died in December 1996. He called her death an accident.

DNA samples were taken from items that Karr touched as investigators kept him under surveillance in Bangkok, Lacy said, including from his bicycle, a cup he drank from and a tissue with which he wiped his hands.

However, she explained, experts in the case said that the sample found in the young girl's underwear was a mixed sample, as were the samples taken from Karr without his knowledge.

The experts wanted a clean sample from Karr and didn't want to compare a mixed sample with a mixed sample, she told reporters in a news conference about the case.

To get such a sample, they would have needed Karr's permission, and they didn't want to tip him off that he was under investigation, she said.

Karr claimed in e-mails to a journalism professor at the University of Colorado that he was involved in JonBenet's death.

Lacy has been sharply criticized from for detaining and arresting Karr.

"The decisions were mine," Lacy said Tuesday. "The responsibility is mine and I should be held accountable for all decisions in this case."


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Re: SUSPECT IN CHILD MURDER CASE #163433
08/30/06 08:19 AM
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I'm really surprised they aren't going after him for obstruction and such, since he basically was the attention-whore whacko that we'd suspected.



Re: SUSPECT IN CHILD MURDER CASE #163434
08/30/06 09:54 AM
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Obstruction of justice wouldn't apply. most jurisdictions have an offense of false reports to a law enforcement officer, but one of the elements of the offense is that the defendant knowingly make a false report. If the D.A. feels that Karr believes he killed the girl, he can't charge him.

If they did charge him with false reports, it would be an ironic trial in that Karr's defense would be that DNA notwithstanding, he was, in fact, responsible for the girl's death. The prosecution would have to establish his innocense on the murder claims to succeed on the false report charge.

Re: SUSPECT IN CHILD MURDER CASE #163435
08/30/06 11:15 AM
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most jurisdictions have an offense of false reports to a law enforcement officer, but one of the elements of the offense is that the defendant knowingly make a false report. If the D.A. feels that Karr believes he killed the girl, he can't charge him.
Kind of reminds me of Ted Kennedy. He really believed Mary Jo Kopechne was alive, too. :p

It shouldn't matter if he believes he did it, holy shit, either he did it or he didn't. And the proof says he didn't, so 1.) he's either insane or 2.) he's an attention whore. Probably a little of both. Either way, I still think they should prosecute him.



Re: SUSPECT IN CHILD MURDER CASE #163436
08/30/06 11:39 AM
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[quote]most jurisdictions have an offense of false reports to a law enforcement officer, but one of the elements of the offense is that the defendant knowingly make a false report. If the D.A. feels that Karr believes he killed the girl, he can't charge him.
Kind of reminds me of Ted Kennedy. He really believed Mary Jo Kopechne was alive, too. :p

It shouldn't matter if he believes he did it, holy shit, either he did it or he didn't. And the proof says he didn't, so 1.) he's either insane or 2.) he's an attention whore. Probably a little of both. Either way, I still think they should prosecute him.
[/quote]He's definitely a guy we should keep on a leash. Ted Kennedy too.

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