You can have two small parents give birth to a tall child. That doesn't mean height isn't hereditary.

Well, Mr. Reynolds, the Republican partisan cheif within the halls of Congress, told the press that he had heard of these "inappropriate" e-mails(but not actually what were in these e-mails, but just that he heard that they weren't exactly...well, appropriate...for an exchange between a Congressman and a 16 year old Page) and had alerted to Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert about these emails and Foley back in the Spring of 2006.

Hastert had told the press that he first learned about Foley and the e-mails on Friday. When asked about Reynolds' statements, Hastert said that such comments by Reynolds to him..."slipped" his memory.

Now what happened here? Either two things, each a 50/50 possibility, knowing Congress and politicians.

(1) Reynolds was worred about such-commented "inappropriate" IMs, and told Hastert about it, since its a possible leak that could be a piss stain for the Republicans in Congress. Of course, assuming that they don't know what the IMs actually are, they probably assume that those IMs were innocent, but the wording made it seem like a paedophile/homosexual relationship was going on. However, perhaps Hastert was damn busy, or he probably figured that the IMs were nothing to worry about. I mean, a top GOP guy for family values and safety of our children? Just cheap sleaze against him by the opposition.

In other words, the GOP on the Hill simply fucked up, and now have a major disaster on their laps, not because of failure to keep a cover-up, but because the chain of command failed in reprimanding Foley. Shit Happens.

(2) Reynolds learned of the IMs, and their content, and told Hastert, who then lead a cover-up of very devastating materials for the Fall Mid-terms. However, somebody(probably a Democratic sympathizer) got ahold of these IMs, and timely leaked it to the public.

Now I'm not saying that the GOP tried to cover Foley's shit up. They could have, but there is no proof for such things so far, so its irresponsible to say that they are. But considering how Washington is, and how cynical that we as a people are with our government's elected officials, many people will either believe, or actually consider, that such a failed cover-up did happen, and this shit will hurt the GOP in 30 or so days at the polls.

BTW, who saw Joe Scarborough taking Hastert and the GOP Congressional power structure to task for this fiasco? A former Florida Congressman from the 1990s, and considering that Hastert once upon a time was one of his bosses at that time...he laid a Cleveland Steamer on them.

Not necessarily. Exposure to certain viruses, chemicals or substances while in the womb can cause the baby to be "born with" minor or major birth trauma, defects, anomalies, etc.

Not necessarily. Exposure to certain viruses, chemicals or substances while in the womb can cause the baby to be "born with" minor or major birth trauma, defects, anomalies, etc. [/b][/quote]That would certainly be the case in a rather small, isolated group.

But for those who are gay and believe it is so because of their genes, it is because they all believe they were born that way. Far too many people for trauma, defects, etc. to universally apply.

Either way, I'm not saying I buy the argument that homosexuality (or pedophilia) are genetic, I'm just playing Devil's advocate.

Not necessarily. Exposure to certain viruses, chemicals or substances while in the womb can cause the baby to be "born with" minor or major birth trauma, defects, anomalies, etc. [/b][/quote]That would certainly be the case in a rather small, isolated group.

But for those who are gay and believe it is so because of their genes, it is because they all believe they were born that way. Far too many people for trauma, defects, etc. to universally apply.

Either way, I'm not saying I buy the argument that homosexuality (or pedophilia) are genetic, I'm just playing Devil's advocate. [/b][/quote]I'm actually suggesting something very un-PC. I'm saying some kind of stress is happening first trimester, when the brain is really developing (like the hypothalamus that influence sexual behavior). Well, I'm not actually suggesting it but rather some researchers indicate this may be happening.

But it is unpopular, since it put homosexuality in a disease or birth defect category.

It would be an interesting study to read, actually. Though I do believe that there is quite a balance between heredity and environment in most cases (generally, not necessarily with what we're discussing here).

Well, a conservative columnist for the conservative-friendly Washington Times newspaper has called for Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert to RESIGN because of this fuck-up.

Several TV pundits seem to be hinting what I think is inevitable.

Either the GOP lose the House, and Hastert loses his job via elections, or if the GOP retain the House, some Congressman will mutiny on his ass, and force him to resign. I mean, look at Lott and Delay. This is a lose-lose scenario for Hastert.

If this turns out to be true, another sick twist to this bizarre story. Foley had cybersex before House vote

What I don't understand is why this man is not in jail. Why is he allowed to enter rehab, while the anyone else who had this much evidence compiled against them would be cooling their heels in cell by now? That's the real disgrace.

Which is why the world is going to the

You are right. I do not understand it.

DS

Did the Democrats pay this guy off? Holy shit. What a way to fuck up midterm elections... :rolleyes:

Now he's a gay Catholic who was molested by a priest when he was young and now has a bad case of pedophilia that many other politicians knew about...

You can't make this shit up...

Double J, You forgot to add alcoholic...

Personally, I could care less what party this guy is associated with, but if there are people who knew about the potential danger to youngsters that this man posed, and kept quiet about it in order to win an election, then they are as criminally liable as he is, IMHO.

And you thought Jerry Springer had some weird people on.

Ma, get my shotgun, I've got some business to talk over with those fellas down in Washington.

Is this a way for us to feel sorry for him instead of outrage?

Is this a way for us to feel sorry for him instead of outrage? [/b][/quote]He got involved in some disturbing and shameful behavior and is sending up smoke screens to avoid responsibility.
He disgraced himself, his office and family. He should just quietly go away. His excuses are ridiculous.

I think it depends on how they bring up the charges. Washington DC age of consent is 16 so he broke no law there. However he could be arrested by the same Federal internet sexual predator laws he fought so hard to inact!

just for the record - sending e-mails/IMs to a 16 year old isn't pedophilia. Pedophilia refers to pre-pubescent children, not post-pubescent teenagers. Doesn't mean he's not a pervert, hypocrite, very guilty of sexual harrassment in the work place which HAS no age limit ...

What is the point of his declaring that he was molested by clergy when he was 13? It appears he's trying to garner sympathy by pointing a finger at the crimes of the catholic church and thereby deflecting responsibility away from himself.

Saladbar, Well DUH!! Of course he's going to try and deflect attention by making himself a victim. And if this boy is 16 now, he may not have been at the time of the internet relationship. He's been carrying on these relationships for YEARS, so who knows how many young boys he's contacted. Also, it seems he did this while on the road, so I would think that would fall under federal guidelines. I wonder what they are??

What I hate is that Foley's shit is trying to make him the victim. Yeah, if his shit is true, he was a victim, but people can choose whatever to have Internet sex with kids or not. HE CHOOSE to do so, thus I can't feel sorry for him at all.

I'd broaden that considerably, since not all 16-year-olds are post-pubescent, and that irregardless of that status, the child is still a minor, while the congressman is a middle-aged "man," which would fit my interpretation of pedophilia.

OK so he is a gay, catholic, alcoholic, former molestation victim, creep, and child molester. What a defense.

But he does brush and floss regularly.

What do you bet that he will get a female lawyer next.

I hear they're digging up Cochran... :p