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Re: REMEMBERING PLAWRENCE...
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10/09/06 06:15 AM
10/09/06 06:15 AM
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Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 22,902 New York
SC
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Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl: I hope nobody minds my posting of these memories. It's bittersweet, but I just want to think about the good times... I, for one, certainly don't mind (and I doubt anyone else does, either). I spent a few hours yesterday going through the archives of Paul's posts. It was a good few hours. 
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Re: REMEMBERING PLAWRENCE...
#166374
10/09/06 08:35 AM
10/09/06 08:35 AM
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Posts: 17,300 New York
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Gina, Thank you so much for posting the links to all those different threads. He was something else, wasn't he? I know you and I have been getting rather silly in the Ladies Thread lately, and I'm GLAD. Plaw loved this place so much that he would be very happy that we're still all here, continuing to have fun, loving and laughing with our friends. This place brought him so much enjoyment, he's up there, watching, and chuckling along with us. I just KNOW it.
President Emeritus of the Neal Pulcawer Fan Club
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Re: REMEMBERING PLAWRENCE...
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10/09/06 01:28 PM
10/09/06 01:28 PM
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Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 5,032 Texas
ginaitaliangirl
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Originally posted by Sicilian Babe: I know you and I have been getting rather silly in the Ladies Thread lately, and I'm GLAD. Thanks for saying that, SB. I realized last night that our chats were what helped keep me distracted, because when y'all weren't there to talk to, I returned to this...looking up those old posts was so nice, but it also brought back the sadness. That's how it usually works for me, though. It's not until I'm left alone with my thoughts that the emotion of it hits me (again). I'm so glad that we all have each other as support right now. And to brighten things up, I finally found the original "Flopsie and Mopsie" story that became the legend. Not only could he take a joke - he could turn it around and make it his own. 
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Re: REMEMBERING PLAWRENCE...
#166386
10/09/06 06:15 PM
10/09/06 06:15 PM
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Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 521 Detroit
TonyD
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I feel awful to hear of Plaw's passing. Though I've been around for a while I don't check-in so often ... and I was not aware that he was ill.
Though we'd responded to each other's posts, I did not know Paul in person ... yet the effect of finding out about his death feels right now as if I had. Without thinking, for just a moment my mind turned to making lasagna ... the first thing I do when I find out about a friends death is to take food to the family ... but coming back to reality I feel silly; I have no idea who I'd imagined I would take the food to. It's curious how honest and real online-friends are even though they are not physically present.
The door shutting suddenly is a very difficult way to be reminded just how much we care ... and how we should never take others for granted. It is so true that any one of us could be gone tomorrow (I just had a big scare myself - it is very real to me right now); and we don't know when those in our lives might be taken, sometimes unexpected, sometimes we knew ... but still can't get our arms around it easily. We expect to see them suddenly again, like Sonny reflected in the glass at Vito's birthday party. If only to get just one more evening together, one more post, just one more smile.
Maybe I do know who to take that lasagna to. Plaws family was all of you. Please accept my sincere condolences at Paul's death. May he rest in peace.
Tony
"we are bigger than US Steel" ... Hyman Roth and Meyer Lansky
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Re: REMEMBERING PLAWRENCE...
#166389
10/09/06 07:23 PM
10/09/06 07:23 PM
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DonMichaelCorleone
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Re: REMEMBERING PLAWRENCE...
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10/09/06 10:53 PM
10/09/06 10:53 PM
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Big Daddy Don
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Sugar Daddy
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Gee my relationship with PLaw was much different than what most have posted, my dealings with him are more akin to two 12 year olds on the back of a school bus making fun of each other and others. I first became aware of PL back in the Sports thread when the fantasy games were just starting. It was different a few years back from what I read today. Basically if you revert yourself back to junior high where you make sexual reference to players names – and insulted one another, that is pretty much what you had. You wouldn’t much cerebral and deep thought provoking conversations occurring there. As time went on and the fantasy games took shape, PL would absolutely drive me crazy with all his stat posts – uggh they were so frustrating. I consider myself fairly intelligent and there were times I did not even understand what the hell the stats even meant yet alone understand how he derived at them, nor how much time he had even taken to generate them. I later came to the conclusion that he only developed and posted the stats that showed him in a favorable light. :p I used to correspond to a lot of them with a  – which used to frustrate him especially after taking all that time to compute them. I should note that DB found them very insightful, which is why PL anointed him his Most Worthy Adversary. A bit gay for me, but whatever .... :p But that is how it was, everyone would ‘bust’ on each other for most part but thinking back, PL did some but not as much as the others. He certainly took his share of ribbing though, that’s for sure. This was the guy that would inform us that while on vacation would wake up before 6:00am, leave his hotel, find some local café with internet access, pay something like $15.00 / day for access to post and change his line ups.  For someone like myself – he was a constant source of material to bust on him for. Although he wouldn’t get on the others as much as we got on him, he didn’t seem to mind the ribbing – as long as he felt it was not in any way mean spirited or derogatory to him or his family. In the occasional times we would PM me, he would joke how fun the leagues were. Personally, I simply think he enjoyed the camaraderie that existed and was just content to be part of a group or maybe clique that was basically just a light hearted, silly group that revolved around sports. And really can you blame him – c’mon who would not want to be associated with a group that has people calling themselves – Big Daddy, Crabby, Pork, Buffy and of course Douche Bag  He actually PM me to help settle debates that he and Vickie would have over regional sayings. One time, they were in a restaurant and she asked for something in a particular way – I forget the details now. He of coursed challenged her and said that is not how you say or ask for that. She said yes it was that is how they talked where she grew up. Apparently that was not how they did in NY and being one not to back down from a debate kept it going with her. He PM’d me later asking to settle the bet they had – I agreed with Vickie’s use of the saying, whatever it was – it was how we talked in Phila. He was not thrilled with my response – knowing him he probably didn’t even go back and tell her that I agreed. He asked me a few times to meet for dinner or drinks the times he was in Phila. As intelligent of a man as he was – he never seemed to grasp the fact that although I grew up in Phila, I no longer lived there, so getting into Center City especially on a weekend was 1 ½ - 2 hour commute with weekend traffic. But he tried and it turned out we never did actually get together. He mentioned if I get up to NY on business or something to let him know and he’ll hook me up with tickets to the Nets – wasn’t in NY much either. It’s odd that there are probably only a few people on the board that would garner this type of attention in death. Not to say any one is any more important than another but I think it is because he was active in most facets of the board. He was a very active participant in discussions on the Godfather book /movie as well as Gangster history, he was a lunatic in the fantasy sports games as much as general sports. He was engaged in political discussions and often debates as everyone knows. Because of that he interacted with the mass majority of people on the board so with his death leaves a void in a lot of different areas and to a lot of people. Matter of fact the only place he probably didn’t visit much was the game section. And as most know he did not like them, in many cases he loathed them. Probably because in his mind there was no challenge to them. My favorite was when he started one himself called the Numbers game as a joke to the entire concept – below is his post; Originally posted by plawrence: Here's another new game.
I like it, because you can't just post the same answer that someone else just gave - you have to come up with a new answer of your own every time.
The first player starts with the number 1.
The next player posts the number following 1. And so on.
It's easy at the beginning with the lower numbers that everyone knows....1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, etc., but be careful:
It gets harder as the numbers get higher and you have to come up with numbers that you might not be so familiar with.
Everyone got it?
OK, I'll start:
1 That was a classic - and the funny part is as of today when I looked this up - there are still people playing it – a game in which you post the next number. PL must have seen that and simply scratched his head and rolled his eyes. So what I would like to propose to JGeoff or SC as my last razz to him instead of renaming the Sports thread as some proposed (my entry is PLAW’s Sports Lounge) – but instead to rename the Word Game section after him. Call it something like PLAW’s Intellectual Word Games – Challenge your Wit … That would steam him to know end – you do that JGeoff and he’ll be turning off your lights, television, computer – your car – the site that host this board ….you name it. That would be sooooo awesome …. Cruel but totally awesome. But the truth is although I am not here very much anymore, and my ‘conversations’ with PL were occasional and never involved deep personal thoughts – yet when I learned that he passed away I was genuinely saddened. Odd that I never physically met nor spoke to him, but was still sad to hear of his passing. If he was in the pain that has been discussed here, he truly is in a better place. My condolences go to his son Steve and his girlfriend Vickie. From reading all the past threads it seems that he was a friend to many on this board - and in the end that's a pretty good legacy to have.
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Re: REMEMBERING PLAWRENCE...
#166392
10/10/06 12:23 AM
10/10/06 12:23 AM
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Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 839 Elmwood Park, Illinois
YoTonyB
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After one of my earliest posts in a sports thread, a post that included a reference to the Bill James Baseball Abstract (the primary source for many of plaw's statistical analysis), I was surprised to see notification in my AOL mailbox that "plawrence has sent you a message from the gangsterbb" (or something like that).
His private message extended a hand to say "hi" and welcome me to the boards, offered to find the source material I cited in my post, photocopy and send it to me (on his dime!), then invited me to join the fantasy leagues. I lurked for a long time before posting, and it was reassuring to have plaw greet me at the door to make me feel welcome.
Paul, I pray there's someone there to extend a hand and greet you, to make you feel comfortable as you did for so many friends here on the BB. Equally as important, I hope that your family can experience the same kind of comfort in your absence that you brought to others with your presence.
tony b.
"Kid, these are my f**kin' work clothes." "You look good in them golf shoes. You should buy 'em"
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Re: REMEMBERING PLAWRENCE...
#166401
10/10/06 11:27 PM
10/10/06 11:27 PM
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Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 7,950
DonMichaelCorleone
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Since going back through the newly dedicated sports thread I came across this Gem of a post by plaw and thought I should post it (he is in fact talking to the one and only Douche Ba ugh Bigelow): Trouble in the castle already, huh? :p Remember.....you are the KING of the Castle....She is nothing but a peasant...what you say goes...fantasy sports takes a back seat to nothing..... Anyway, here are the scores so far for Week One. I woulda had them posted sooner, but my girlfriend had a few things that she wanted me to do this afternoon.
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