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Re: Pacino's Best Non- Godfather Role
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Al called me to say he didn't like your poll at all 'cuz you forgot his most cherished role : Shakespeare's Richard III . Wiseguy_1872, he asked me to send you  and send you  . Sorry guy, it's not personal, it's strictly business. :p Almammater 
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Re: Pacino's Best Non- Godfather Role
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08/04/02 12:41 AM
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Tony Montana in Scarface. if the Godfather was included, i'll still vote for Scarface. for me this is his best performance in his career. . . "make way for the Bad Guy."  GoodFella
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Re: Pacino's Best Non- Godfather Role
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Pacino's role in Scarface will ALWAYS be my #1 pick! He will never have a better character/role than that. Period.
(And, of course, I'm not saying he sucked in anything else - obviously! - just that Tony Montana was his best character acting ever!)
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I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Pacino's Best Non- Godfather Role
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PS It's understood that you can't include 30-something options, but 9 is too narrow! Where's Glengarry Glen Ross? Or Scarecrow, Dick Tracy, Devil's Advocate, Two Bits... etc etc??
Pacino - my favorite actor - w/o a doubt!
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I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Pacino's Best Non- Godfather Role
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08/04/02 07:39 AM
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Originally posted by J Geoff - The Don PS It's understood that you can't include 30-something options, but 9 is too narrow! Where's Glengarry Glen Ross? Or Scarecrow, Dick Tracy, Devil's Advocate, Two Bits... etc etc?? You're absolutely right J Geoff. Glengarry Ross was a foolish omission for which I have no excuse. Of course I am guility of exercising some selectivity over Devil's Advocate ( which not everyone takes seriously ) and some of the lesser known movies. But enough of my crawling - I admit it I made a mistake or two. Interesting to see how far Scarface is leading the pack. I wonder whether this is typical of the general public if they were asked the same question, given we have a slight bias towards crime movies. We live in a strange world when Pacino gets his Oscar for Scent of A Woman - a performance/role that many people think is dwarfed by many other fantastic performances. But as has been said before - who still believes the Oscars to be a fair measure of anything? PS. Tell AL I'm sorry about Richard III That was great too!! 
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Re: Pacino's Best Non- Godfather Role
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I voted for Scarface. This one was easy. Leaving Scarface out would have made it a much tougher choice. I guess I would have gone with Lefty in Donnie Brasco.
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Re: Pacino's Best Non- Godfather Role
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I really liked Pacino in Donnie Brasco, I mean it was interesting to see him treated like crap. But i would have to say the WORST movie yet i have seen him in would be A Dog Day Afternoon. That movie seemed to drag on and on and it was interesting how he was gay with the guy that played Fredo.
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Re: Pacino's Best Non- Godfather Role
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Man that is a hard question Wiseguy, I do believe "Scarface" was his best non-GF role like others have said he seemed to transform into his character that he portrayed (the accent,body language,etc..) But as Don Geoff added I was suprised that "Devil's Advocate" wasn't included. Hehis performance as the devil was outstanding acting especially the end when him and Keanu Reeves battled back and forth about good verses evil. Let's not forget the remarkable performance of Colonel Frank Slade in "Scent of a Woman". If you didn't know anything about Al Pacino and saw that movie for the first time you'd swear he was really blind. One of the finest parts was the end when he stood before the school giving that speech about integrity and teaching the kids (our future leaders) about life and amputated spirits. Must say if you listened to what he was saying there was a lot of truth to it. Well I'm done babbling now someone else's turn. 
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Re: Pacino's Best Non- Godfather Role
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08/06/02 06:57 PM
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I actually thought he played a good detective as Vincent Hanna in Heat. The scene where he interoggates Ricky Harris is one of my favorite Pacino moments. "GIMMIE ALL YA GOT, GIMMIE ALL YA GOT!" Also later in the movie when he interrogates the guy who is having an affair with Chris's wife "I hear shes gotta GREAT ASS, and you got your head ALL THE WAY UP IT!" The best Pacino lines, and he dosent even play a criminal.
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Re: Pacino's Best Non- Godfather Role
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Michael Barzini wrote : But i would have to say the WORST movie yet i have seen him in would be A Dog Day Afternoon. A little off topic, but do you Pacinophiles  think that his WORST role + movie was Revolution which was listed among the 10 worst movies of the century by US critics/journalists ? I think DDA was really great BTW. 
"Come heavy or not at all." Uncle Junior to Tony S. "Nenti dire ca nenti si capi" come disse quello. (Say nthg when U know nthg.) "Chi non ci vuole stare, se ne vada." (If U don't like it here, go somewhere else.)
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Re: Pacino's Best Non- Godfather Role
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08/07/02 05:56 PM
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I think the accent of Tony in Scarface was a bit overdone; sort of a characature rather than authentic ( I've heard many Cubans speak English.). Tony was like tough Ricky Ricardo of 'I Love Lucy' fame. Desi Arnaz deliberately went over the top with his accent.
I did very much admire his capture of a New York Harlem Puerto Rican accent in 'Carlito's Way'. He did his best work though, to me, in 'Brasco' for his portrayal of the non-glamorous position of the small-time made worker in the mob. I could smell the street in his character in 'Brasco'.
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Re: Pacino's Best Non- Godfather Role
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08/24/02 11:13 AM
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Originally posted by Frank White: Vincent Hanna in 'Heat' but you CAN'T watch my television set, Ralph!" i remember this scene. he loves his Phillips TV set so much. welcome to the boards Frank! GoodFella
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Re: Pacino's Best Non- Godfather Role
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Originally posted by Goodfellaoggie i remember this scene. he loves his Phillips TV set so much. Yeah, but doesn't he knock it onto the street from his car and it gets all smashed - infront of some bad looking dudes? Was that in Heat or was I hallucinating again?
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Re: Pacino's Best Non- Godfather Role
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08/24/02 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by Wiseguy_1872: [quote] Originally posted by Goodfellaoggie [b]i remember this scene. he loves his Phillips TV set so much. Yeah, but doesn't he knock it onto the street from his car and it gets all smashed - infront of some bad looking dudes? Was that in Heat or was I hallucinating again?[/b][/quote]you're right Wiseguy, that was from the movie Heat. but forgot the reason why he smashed the TV in front of the kids. what i remember was the kids are scratching their heads after Mr Pacino smashed the TV. GoodFella
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Re: Pacino's Best Non- Godfather Role
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08/24/02 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by Snake: I love Scarface, so this was a tough one. Pacino's done so many great flicks. I'd have to say, though, as far as which of these best expressed his acting/artistic ability, it's Scent of a Woman. "The colonel" was so real you could feel his bitterness, as well as his no-nonsense attitude. Plus it had a great ending. I agree with 100% Snake the scene between him and Charles with the gun, (powerful acting on Pacino)also the ending in the auditorium with the entire faculty and student body, giving that speech about integrity and amputated spirits!  the man has a gift for acting. 
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