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Re: Real life mob trivia game. #193899
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No takers yet huh? I dunno Rusty, maybe you gotta throw in a few hints. Anyway, I'm outta here til Sunday. Don't wait up for me.

Re: Real life mob trivia game. #193900
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Quote:
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Q. Which ex-gangster who is currently incarcerated made a splash in the papers when it was reported he planned to lure New York attorney Ronald Kuby to his death, on the pretense of having business to discuss in the state of Texas?
That would be none other than Sammy Gravano.



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Re: Real life mob trivia game. #193901
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Oooops, forgot to ask a question

For a slight change in pace here,

Q: What significance does the date November 14, 1957 have in mob-folklore??


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Re: Real life mob trivia game. #193902
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A. The guy who was made with toilet paper is Michael Spinelli who made his bones by shooting the sister of turned fed witness Pete Chiodo. Gaspipe Casso presided over the ceremony.

Q. Which 1930's midwest bank robbing independant outlaw belonged to the Capone gang when he was younger but was kicked out for being too violent?

Re: Real life mob trivia game. #193903
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"Fat Pete" Chiodo, whose weight of >500 pounds provided him with nature's own bulletproof vest! Wasn't he shot at least seven times and lived to tell about it?
I'm guessing your violent midwestern bank robber was Fred "Killer" Burke, who once got into a fistfight with Capone on a golf course and was used as an independent shooter.
Q. Which midwestern rum-running gang was the basis of the "Lakeville Road Boys," mentioned by Hyman Roth as his heirs to the Nacional Hotel in Cuba? (Hint: their leader became a biggie in Vegas.)


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Re: Real life mob trivia game. #193904
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I'm guessing your violent midwestern bank robber was Fred "Killer" Burke, who once got into a fistfight with Capone on a golf course and was used as an independent shooter.

No Turnbull, the guy I'm thinking of was depicted in a movie made in the 40's 50's? by a famous "short" actor.

A. Rusty, sounds like the Chicago Outfit to me.

Q. My previous question still stands.

Re: Real life mob trivia game. #193905
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Molto grazie for the hint, Fanucci. Your violent Midwest bank robber ousted from The Outfit would be Lester Gillis, aka Baby-Face Nelson. Rusty deserves credit, too, since it was McGurn who ousted him from The Outfit.
My previous question still stands.


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Re: Real life mob trivia game. #193906
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Quote:
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Well, was my answer wrong, Turnbull? Go look at my post, I said it was Dalitz's Mayfield Road Mob. I guess I was wrong.
I guess he's trying to be specific. It was the Lakeville Road GANG.

I forgot who's questions were unanswered yet, so answer those first.

Re: Real life mob trivia game. #193907
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Hey, take it easy, guys! Sorry, Rusty, I missed your earlier answer to my question (got excited by reference to Fat Pete Chiodo, a Blast from the Past). Yes, the Mayfield Road gang (Moe Dalitz, Sam Tucker, Louis Rothkopf, Morris Kleinman), associates of Cleveland Mafia boss Big Al Polizzi, were the real-life models for the Lakeville Road boys. Dalitz, in Vegas, achieved the legitimacy Michael Corleone sought and never got. He built the Desert Inn (with Wilbur Clark fronting). He and his partners used a $1 million Teamsters loan in 1959 to build Sunrise Hospital, and he was named Humanitarian of the Year by the American Cancer Research Center and Hospital in 1976. In 1982 he received the Torch of Liberty Award by the Anti-Defamation League. His charitable trust distributed $1.3 million to 14 nonprofit organizations following his death in 1979. Although the Kefauver Committee hauled him out to testify in 1951, his name was never entered into Nevada's Black Book, and he was never denied a gaming license. What an operator!


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Re: Real life mob trivia game. #193908
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OK I'm lost here. One of you guys gotta ask a question. Figure it out between the two of you.

Re: Real life mob trivia game. #193909
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Ok, I'll try one more:
Q. What foreign-born (not Italian) member of the Capone mob served as one of The Outfit's top labor racketeers into the '70's?


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Re: Real life mob trivia game. #193910
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Quote:
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[quote]Originally posted by Ricardo:
[b] [quote]Originally posted by Rusty:
[b]Well, was my answer wrong, Turnbull? Go look at my post, I said it was Dalitz's Mayfield Road Mob. I guess I was wrong.
I guess he's trying to be specific. It was the Lakeville Road GANG.

I forgot who's questions were unanswered yet, so answer those first.[/b][/quote]Maybe you should read his note again. The "Lakeville Road Gang" was the ficticious outfit HYMAN ROTH, in GODFATHER PART II, referred to. I gave the real-life counterpart. Jeez.

You like using quotes all the time, eh Ricky? [/b][/quote]F*ck i;m stupid. You know I meant MAyfield Road GANG, i'm an asshole for missing that.

Re: Real life mob trivia game. #193911
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Quote:
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[quote]Originally posted by Turnbull:
[b]In 1982 he received the Torch of Liberty Award by the Anti-Defamation League.

Quote:
following his death in 1979.
Hmmm...

Well, anyway, here's a picture of old Morris, taken in 1982.

[/b][/quote]First of all. If he DID die in 1979, what's saying he can't win an awrd in 1982?

Are YOU sure that pic was taken in 1982, and not just assuming it was th eyear he died, 1979?

Re: Real life mob trivia game. #193912
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Quote:
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[quote]Originally posted by Turnbull:
[b]Ok, I'll try one more:
Q. What foreign-born (not Italian) member of the Capone mob served as one of The Outfit's top labor racketeers into the '70's?
A. Gus Alex, of the "connection guys" corruption wing

Q. This is my last question on this thread, but for old time's sake...which rebellious Irish mobster was whacked in the 1970s as he was leaving the dentist? (Slightly more painful than the route canal.)[/b][/quote]Don't know. But in The Last DOn there was a death in the Dentist. Mario Puzo knew his shit.

Re: Real life mob trivia game. #193913
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Rusty, now you got me with this Irish question. I'm not up on my mick mobsters. Don't have a clue. Unless, of course, you give us one.

Re: Real life mob trivia game. #193914
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Was it Danny Greene in Cleveland?

Re: Real life mob trivia game. #193915
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Well I guess I didn't need the clue after all. Answer is 2 posts up.

Real easy Q. Name the GF charicter and his real life counterpart. The spelling of their last names is an exact reversal of the letters.

Re: Real life mob trivia game. #193916
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Johnny Ola = Jimmy (Blue Eyes) Alo.


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Re: Real life mob trivia game. #193917
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Quote:
Originally posted by Rusty:
Moe Dalitz died in 1989. The article Turnbull adapted into his note was taken from this site.

Actually, Rusty, my mini-history of Dalitz's successes was taken from the following sources, in addition to http://www.1st100.com:
--Las Vegas Mercury, June 08, 2001.
--Sally Denton and Roger Morris, "The Money and the Power," p. 46.
--Las Vegas Review-Journal, March 9, 1997, June 20, 1997.
--Ronald Farrell and Carole Case, "The Black Book and the Mob," pp.23, 28-31.

"The Black Book and the Mob" is the best single source on Nevada gambling history and Mob activities.


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Re: Real life mob trivia game. #193918
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After being sot, how many days did Dutch Shcultz survive?

Re: Real life mob trivia game. #193919
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Quote:
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After being sot, how many days did Dutch Shcultz survive?
Can't really remember if it was one or two days. I'll go with two....


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Re: Real life mob trivia game. #193920
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What was Schultz's real name?


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Re: Real life mob trivia game. #193921
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Quote:
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What was Schultz's real name?
Hey, finally one I know!

A. Schultz's real name was "Arthur Flegenheimer".

a/k/a Dutch Schultz on his deathbed


Q: What mob boss was nicknamed, "The Mad Hatter"?


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Re: Real life mob trivia game. #193922
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Albert Anastasia.

Ok, my first question and knowing my luck by the time I have wrote this someone would have already beat me to it......

I'm gonna go over to Sicilia. Who was known to be Lucciano Leggio's right hand man and eventually after Leggio's death took over the Corleonesi? I don't want to give too much away but he's still alive in prison.


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Re: Real life mob trivia game. #193923
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Leggio, the "Corleone Pimpernel"! Salvatore "Toto"Riina.


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Quote:
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Leggio, the "Corleone Pimpernel"! Salvatore "Toto"Riina.
Yep, fire away son.


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Re: Real life mob trivia game. #193925
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Sorry, Turi, I should have posted a question in reply. Here's one:
What real-life character was Hyman Roth referring to when he spoke of "Eddie Levine of Newport," whom the Pennino Brothers would bring into Sevilla Biltmore Hotel. Who was "Eddie Levine"?


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Re: Real life mob trivia game. #193926
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Turnbull this is a tuff one. Can't think of any jewish mobsters from New England. Who are the Peninno Bros. (Fischetti Bros ?) I am going for a wild guess on Eddie Levine - Phil Kastel?

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Excellent try, Fanucci! "Eddie Levine of Newport" was really Eddie Levinson of Covington, KY, a big-time gambler whom Meyer Lansky cut in on some of his Havana action. Levine later became the manager of the Fremont Hotel/Casino in Vegas. As far as I can tell, there was no real-life equivalent of the "Pennino brothers," though there was no paucity of Italian gangsters operating in pre-Castro Havana. Albert Anastasia himself was negotiating with Cubans over a piece of Havana gambling on the very day he was assassinated in a barber shop.
Q. What was the main logistical reason that the Mob used Joe Barbara's home in Apalachin, NY, for the famous November 1957 meeting? (Hint: this is in addition to the fact that Barbara's true identity as a Mafioso was almost unknown outside Mob circles, and that the upstate NY location was less conspicuous than a big-city venue.)


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Re: Real life mob trivia game. #193928
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Quote:
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Excellent try, Fanucci! "Eddie Levine of Newport" was really Eddie Levinson of Covington, KY, a big-time gambler whom Meyer Lansky cut in on some of his Havana action. Levine later became the manager of the Fremont Hotel/Casino in Vegas. As far as I can tell, there was no real-life equivalent of the "Pennino brothers," though there was no paucity of Italian gangsters operating in pre-Castro Havana. Albert Anastasia himself was negotiating with Cubans over a piece of Havana gambling on the very day he was assassinated in a barber shop.
Q. What was the main logistical reason that the Mob used Joe Barbara's home in Apalachin, NY, for the famous November 1957 meeting? (Hint: this is in addition to the fact that Barbara's true identity as a Mafioso was almost unknown outside Mob circles, and that the upstate NY location was less conspicuous than a big-city venue.)
He was ill/sick/dying and couldn't go anyplace else. YAY!

How many times were Tommy Bilotti, and Paul Castellano each shot in 1985?

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