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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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10/24/02 12:50 AM
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Originally posted by Dr Jules Segal: I say any Hollywood pezzonvante that dares cast Leonardo DiCaprio as Santino Corleone is going to end up with a horse's head in his bed. Yeah, some "Hollywood finocchio" in The Godfather?! :rolleyes: JG
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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10/24/02 12:51 AM
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I'm hearing alot about the story focusing on Vincent and a young Santino. I'm sorry, but I would not be fascinated with that at all. Instead, I dont mind them focusing on Vincent, but I think its a must that DeNiro be brought back to reprise as Vito. I wanna see what happens between his younger days in Part II and the beginning of the end in the Godfather. Other than DeNiro and Garcia, I would prefer to see unknowns fill the rest of the major roles. (except for Pacino if he is somehow reprising as Michael in his later years).
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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10/24/02 09:00 AM
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I'm with you Robert DeNiro! I've always wanted them to go back to the "missing years" as opposed to ahead. And couldn't DeNiro still play Vito at middle age? And Oblong, I didn't see DiCaprio's movie Gangs of New York yet, however I saw previews twice, and from what I could detect, I still think he could pull off the part of "Sonny." However, I know my friends here disagree strongly. :p However, reading the articles that have been posted, it sounds as tho that Garcia is really interested and reference has been made to continue Vincent's story with flasbacks with DiCaprio as young Sonny, much like GF II. We will have to wait to see first if this ever comes about I guess. TIS
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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10/24/02 02:15 PM
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Deathkiss, I think Anthony entering and rising up the "crime" ladder would be perfect as well, turning bitter and angry perhaps, since his sister's murder and father's death, etc. Btw, who did play Anthony? I don't think I knew him and is he still around? TIS
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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10/24/02 03:14 PM
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Snake Eyes, if that was the case GF4 would be a repetition of GF1 (the innocent son become like his terrifying father etc.)
like that they can go on making a Godfather movie on and on and on, GF5, GF6, in 2078 a GF31 will be there.
and quite frankly, I think they should end it sooner or later...
Now I've become a big fan the last couple of years, but never really went to a brand new GF film, so I dig the idea of a GF4 if well done (but I think it will destroy the saga anyway). After that, they should REALLY end it.
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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10/25/02 12:08 AM
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Originally posted by DonsAdvisor: [QB I guess you might object to these too:
* Marlon Brando playing Vito? Brando is of Irish descent. And regarding political activism, remember when Brando sent a Native American to refuse his Godfather Oscar? What about Brando's anti-semetic statements, for which he later apologized?
* Al Pacino playing Scarface? (where Robert Loggio is Lopez, Murray Abraham is Omar Suarez) or in Carlito's Way? Does that Pacino is not hispanic take away from these films?
* DeNiro playing Young Vito? DeNiro is Irish-Italian - more Irish than Italian.
What about Charlton Heston playing Moses? Heston is not Jewish. Or just about any western in which someone played an Indian or Mexican (i.e. Eli Wallach - Don Altobello in GF3 - playing Ugly Mexican Tuco in "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly").[/QB] i agree with Don's Advisor -- it doesn't matter what the nationality or heritage is, whether Italian, Irish, German, etc. what matters, at the end of the day, is talent. now, Andy Garcia's talent (or the lack of it) in portraying a Corleone, is another matter.
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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10/25/02 01:32 AM
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TIS, don papa
Your points are well taken. If a character is typecast too much, whether it be playing an ethnic role, villain, tough guy etc. they are less believable for future roles. Hence, I must admit that if Andy Garcia gets stereotyped as a latino actor, it would be tough for him to play other roles. Likewise, its probably tough for DeNiro to play any ethic role that is non-Italian. But so what?
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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10/25/02 04:09 AM
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Originally posted by The Italian Stallionette: Btw, who did play Anthony? I don't think I knew him and is he still around? TIS[/QB] TIS, Anthony was played by Franc D'Ambrosio who I believe is a professional singer and returned to the operatic scene after GFIII
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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10/25/02 11:44 AM
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This has to be done VERY carefully. I don't want to see a cynical cash in.
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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10/25/02 11:13 PM
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Originally posted by Oblong: De Niro is older than Brando was in part I.
I'll wait and see how DiCaprio does in Scorsese's new movie before deciding on whether he'd be a good fit for any potential GF movie. You know, i don't think it would work with Robert De Niro. He's almost 60, Brando was 47, and you want De Nrio to play Vito from the missing years (1927-1945)? Maybe 10-12 years ago it would have worked. I think he's too old to play Vito from the missing years. Maybe they need to find another actor. As for the young Sonny, they should keep their options opened. I'm sure there are thousands of actors out there who would love to audition for that role, or any role. Anyway, i hope it'll come out alright.
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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10/26/02 12:10 PM
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Wow, it's been awhile since i've been on here, but here i am! =) Anyway, i just now heard about the possibilities of a GFIV. I have mixed feelings about this, but in all i'm just hoping for the best. Although, i wish they would make "The Sicilian" into a movie instead - the idea's of a GFIV are endless. No matter how old he is, De Niro should be in GFIV. Considering that nowadays you can make anything possible in Hollywood. And it just wouldn't be the same without some of the original cast from the past GF films. Pacino somehow should be in it as well, i don't know what it would do for his part, but there somehow has to be a connection with the past GF films. Andy Garcia should be in GFIV as well, because he's the recent Don Corleone, isn't he? As for Leonardo DiCaprio playing Sonny (or maybe some other character), i don't know. He's a good actor and all, but i don't see him as a Corleone. So here's my thing for DiCaprio in GFIV: "Hell no!" (you can quote me on that). I'd rather have someone else. In fact, i think they should get a group of unknown talented actors to play the characters in whatever they plan on doing with GFIV. For example, Marco Leonardi. I just recently saw him in some films (Like what for Chocolate, The Five Senses, Cinema Paradiso) and he's great, but not enough credit. If there's so much speculation about who will write the script/screenplay/novel about the supposed GFIV, why not get Carol Gino? She knew Mario Puzo and is his companion throughout. She could probably write it good, if not then okay. It's unpredictable if FFC will be connected to GFIV, but i would like it if he did it.
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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10/27/02 09:22 AM
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Originally posted by Mardini: [quote]Originally posted by Oblong: [b]De Niro is older than Brando was in part I.
I'll wait and see how DiCaprio does in Scorsese's new movie before deciding on whether he'd be a good fit for any potential GF movie. You know, i don't think it would work with Robert De Niro. He's almost 60, Brando was 47, and you want De Nrio to play Vito from the missing years (1927-1945)? Maybe 10-12 years ago it would have worked. I think he's too old to play Vito from the missing years. Maybe they need to find another actor. As for the young Sonny, they should keep their options opened. I'm sure there are thousands of actors out there who would love to audition for that role, or any role. Anyway, i hope it'll come out alright.[/b][/quote]As for the younger Sonny, what about James Caans kids? Does he have any sons that look like him?
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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11/05/02 10:18 PM
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I rarely read Part IV discussion, because I don't want to know anything about the plot before it comes out (Im the same way w/ Star Wars movies), but when I saw this, I had to post. Although it is true that a bad fourth film will bring down the trilogy, I must disagree with JGeoff, with all due respect (hand kiss), if FFC makes an attempt to make up for Part III (although, I don't look down on it as much as others do) and it covers either Vito building the original Corleone empire, how Vincent ran the family, or the years between II and III, or a mix of 2 or all 3 of these topics, then it could potentially rival I and II.
There was this kid I grew up with -- he was younger than me. Sorta looked up to me -- you know. We did our first work together -- worked our way out of the street. Things were good, we made the most of it. During Prohibition -- we ran molasses into Canada -- made a fortune -- you father, too. As much as anyone, I loved him -- and trusted him. Later on he had an idea -- to build a city out of a desert stop-over for GI's on the way to the West Coast. That kid's name was Moe Green -- and the city he invented was Las Vegas. This was a great man -- a man of vision and guts. And there isn't even a plaque -- or a signpost -- or a statue of him in that town! Someone put a bullet through his eye. No one knows who gave the order -- when I heard it, I wasn't angry; I knew Moe -- I knew he was head-strong, talking loud, saying stupid things. So when he turned up dead -- I let it go. And I said to myself, this is the business we've chosen -- I didn't ask who gave the order -- because it had nothing to do with business!
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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11/06/02 01:12 PM
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I feel that they should leave it as a trilogy. A classic 1-2-3. Also the actors r older now it just won't be the same. Al though James Caan has a son in Gone in 60 seconds that to me looks like him.If they do a GFIV the best of luck to them..
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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11/07/02 11:02 PM
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I found this interview with James Caan, dated April 99 saying there would not be another GF, but if there were a IV, guess who'd he want to play Sonny?  Thought you might be interested, or perhaps you've already seen it.! http://www.apbnews.com/media/reviews/movies/1999/08/16/mickeyside0816_01.html TIS
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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11/09/02 07:38 PM
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Originally posted by DJGodfather: Here is my opinion on the matter,
They should leave it as a trilogy. It is the best organized crime movies out there, so why ruin it with a IV? Also Puzo wouldnt of written it, so it is unfiar to him, if they want, why dont they just make a completly different movie.
DJ Yeah, but i thought Mario Puzo always wanted to write GF4. He once said in an interview that he wished he had power in Hollywood to make GF4. He definitely wanted to focus more on young Santino and the rise of the Corleones.
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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Originally posted by The Italian Stallionette: I'm with you Robert DeNiro! I've always wanted them to go back to the "missing years" as opposed to ahead. And couldn't DeNiro still play Vito at middle age? TIS is absolutely right in saying that, but I have a few opinions to say: I'm excited. I would love to see a Godfather IV but...enough already? They made to classics then made an aweful one. Couldn't they leave it at that? See that they've accomplished 2 of the finest films in motion picture history, then they decide to make a new one - yes, it could work, but they would have to make it better than III, and they would have to have DeNiro as Vito Corleone. Whatever happens, I sure as hell will pay my tickets to see Part IV, but it's still worrisome that the Corleone legacy could be ruined... -Penguin
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