What was it about the painting that made Tony decide to whack Tony B.?? I can only suggest that it had to tie in with what Tony and Silvio discussed (about being the boss and making the hard decision to do the right thing).

Any other ideas? [/b][/quote]Tony saw the picture of him as a general and thought to himself that he posessed those qualities of a leader and needed to take care of buisness, no matter how difficult the task may be. (whacking his cousin). The Tony we saw tonight twards the end of the episode is the Tony he should always be. A strong leader. [/b][/quote]I had a slightly different thought. I think Tony saw an image of himself as Napolean (out of control, megalomania, self absorbed). Then he realized that he was going to lose it all (just as Napolean) if he didn't do what was right - in the mob sense of "right".

I agree with Daigo Mick. The episode grows on you. It also has a reality ring to it. The FBI has been all over the mob in recent years; Gotti, Gigante are both in jail.

Things to consider:
- Adriana is gone, but Raymond now becomes the focal point of the FBI in the quest to get Tony. This SHOULD be a big factor in next season's episodes.
- Junior is fading. Tony realizes it. He tried to go to him for advice and realized that Junior isn't home.
- With Tony B gone and Johnny's crew indicted, what are the affects on the Soprano business.
- Does Christopher pick up Tony B's casino? How will the rest of the crew react.
- Does Little Carmine come back in the picture with Johnny Sack out of business?

Many storyline possibilities, but as in the past, many storylines die.

Kudos to Johnny Sack for his flop in the snow. I wonder if it was rehearsed that way or an out take that was better than the reheasal?

I gotta agree this was not a season ending material. The AJ Beer party, visit to Paulie's house and seeing the painting and Dr Melfi scenes were time fillers. The scene with Chris when they talked about Adriana should pretty much lay to rest any thought of her coming back.

I figured Tony B would get it. Now at the end of the season only Phil Leotardo remains of all the new characters that they "introduced" at the Hollywood premeire before they began the first episode of the season. So what can they do in Year 6?

The FBI Sack bust was a complete anticlimax for the impending war.

I was disappointed...

Adriana is dead. there is no loose end there.

Adriana is dead. there is no loose end there. [/QB][/quote]Some people just don't want to accept it for some reason.

An ambiguous end to an ambiguous season. I figured Tony B. was gonna get it (no choice), and that Johny Sack would survive (need some material for next season, whenever that is ). Anyone else here surprised about how fast Carm seemed to give up on Adriana? I thought that was out of character for her.
The one who really deserved to be whacked was A.J., who is more irritating than his sister and Janice combined.

At first I was surprised, but after thinking about it, her reaction made perfect sense....its what family does when being supportive of a family member....they diss the "non-family" spouse who left.

She's finished. Accept it and move on. Plenty of loose ends to be had through this series, but this isn't one of them.

The only thing that strikes me is curious is if Johnny Sac will have some sort of beef with Tony for getting away so "easily" while he gets pinched, but I don't think anything will come that way.

Nick

That could be a possibility for season 6. I have a feeling someone in the immediate family will die. Or maybe I'm just thinking like a Godfather fan.

It could be Tony himself, but from natural causes. I think his cancer will be a bigger storyline.

That could be a possibility for season 6. I have a feeling someone in the immediate family will die. Or maybe I'm just thinking like a Godfather fan.

It could be Tony himself, but from natural causes. I think his cancer will be a bigger storyline. [/b][/quote]After 6 seasons of build-up, I would hope and doubt the show is going to end with Tony dying of skin cancer. ...With the feds taking down NY, and Chase finally bringing Ray Curto back into the storyline, it looks like the show is going to end with most if not everyone in prison.

Members, be assured I have no particular attachment to the character Adriana. She was really as much an "airhead" as a "crackhead".

The reason I hold out the possibility she could resurrect (be assured I hold no possibility whatever of a Tony B resurrection) is that the producers chose not to show her "dead, dead, dead". While the depiction hardly had to be as "graphic" as that for Tony B or, last season, Ralphie, it could have been "mild" such as was the depiction of Lorraine earlier this season.

Possibly the actress, Ms DeMateo, had a contractual provision with the production company that her character would not be depicted as dead. But failing that, that Adriana's death was not shown, the door for a Season 6 resurrection is open, even though I will acknowledge not all that wide.

Thanking the Forum in advance for allowing me to post this; I certainly will agree that any further discussion by me on this point would be "beating the dead horse".

or should that be, "beating a dead whore "?

Sorry...I couldn't resist

Once again, Adriana is dead. They don't have to show what happens in order to prove she's dead. Silvio is Tony's numer one henchman. He wouldn't make sure she survived. Who knows what he did to the body. But overall, she's dead. Accept it

For cryin' out loud...Adriana is DEAD.

The door for a season six resurection is not open at all. In fact, it is slammed shut.

I can't believe people think she is still alive.

She IS??? What next.....you gonna tell me Tony B. is dead, too??


:p

She IS??? What next.....you gonna tell me Tony B. is dead, too??


:p [/b][/quote]Actually, I don't think Tony B. is really dead. Although we've seen the body, we didn't actually see them dispose of the body. So, the possibility is still out there that he may return. :rolleyes:

Im still waiting for the return of Jackie Aprile Sr.

Correct me if I am wrong, but they never showed his dead cancer soaked body did they? Ive been suspicious of this for the last 4 seasons.

While we're at it....I understand Pussy is a damn good swimmer

What is this? First Adriana? Then Tony B and now Jackie Junior? This ain't no fantasy. Tony B is dead, too. Bullet wound was shown on his head. Jackie Junior was buried in the end of season 3.

The only person that possibly survived is the Russian guy

Adrianna is dead. The character is sympathetic, so they didn't want to show Adrianna get shot and butchered. Plus it would make Tomy, Silvio, and others look even worse for doing that to her.

Plus, Chase probably wanted all this talk about her not being dead. Because of the lackluster season finale, it's one of the only things that will keep people waiting for Season 6.

Nobody is talking about her still being alive. just beecause a few people are ranting about that possibility doesnt mean that this is another loose end. Lets just say this... If Adriana is still alive, then I have lost all respect for the show.

Well, I thought it was a pretty good episode. Could it have been better? Yes, but overall I was pretty satisfied. We all pretty much knew TB was gonna get whacked, but it was still a good scene. I definitely wasnt expecting Johnny Sack to get busted, though I still see his character playing a fairly significant part in season 6. I really thought that war was going to seem inevitable after this last episode, but now it appears it does not have to be. This show has been the absolute best show on TV the past 5 years, even though a lot of people say it has declined. Not sure if I want to say it has declined but it definitely isnt the same as it used to be. I think they maube introduce too many new characters. Our favorite characters like Paulie, Silvio, and Junior dont get near as much screen time as they used to back in the first few seasons. I almost always like the new characters they introduce, but sometimes it seems like the main reason for introducing som of them is so that they wont really have to kill off any of the main characters. Adrianna did go, but who else besides her has died in recent memory that has been around from the beginning. Not that I'm rooting for anyone in particular to die, but if next season is indeed the last, it seems logical that at least a few of the originals would have to die.
And speaking of season 6, I really dont know how I see it going now that Tony and Johnny seem to have made peace. Phil will undoubtedly be indicted along with John and the other NY guys, so that should ease Tony's problems with him. Raymond Curto's biggest episode yet seems to foreshadow him having a major impact on season 6. I also think Christopher will play a very big role, but I dont exactly know how. No matter how often I think about it, I cant see Tony dead or in jail though when it is all said and done. Just one guy's thoughts.

Does anyone else remember from the 4th season the dream tony had, where he was at the house where tony b was killed? It seems that all his dreams tie in some how further down the road. Like pussy. And tony also had a dream about wacking paulie, maybe him taking the picture will be the start of of fued that will lead to betrayal and even death.

Which episode/season?

I think he's kidding

Which episode/season? [/b][/quote]Actually im not, see for yourself, Season 2 Episode 13 "Funhouse" When tony is having his fever dreams he is on the board walk he looks into one of those microscope things that looks over at the ocean, and he sees himself playing cards with paulie, then pulls out a gun and bang, paulie falls over on his chair.

Which episode/season? [/b][/quote]Season 2, Episode 26 "Funhouse"

el bumpo!

Only shown last night in the UK, bumping this so I don't have to track it down again later!

im confused. what is el bumpo? lol.