You know what I think FS... I bet the player values, on the whole, go down as much as they go up - meaning an equal number of players, on average, go up and down every week. The reason we think they all go up disproportionately is because we focus on the better players - the ones most likely to have their values go up.

I'm inclined to agree with FS on this one

A. Rod, off to an horrendous start, only went down 0.2 last week. The only guys that seemed to go down 0.3 are those who are injured or don't play hardly at all.

Plenty of guys went up 0.3, though.

I think the supposition that ESPN uses is that the better players who are slumping will come back, so let's not make them too cheap, while the good players who are doing better than expected will stay at that level, so let's raise them even more.

Also, there are a lot of players who are simply underestimated at the start of the season that need to get their values jacked up quickly. Probably many more of those than players whose value is overestimated.

Last year, guys like Corey Patterson or Hank Blalock, just to pick two quick examples (or Zach Randolph in basketball, which I think follows the same logic), had their value go up week after week because they were way too low to start with.

But I don't think it would make sense to lower A. Rod's value too quickly.

I don't know, there seems to be a whole lot more blue ink then red. The value jumps +3 like nothing, but the negative ink doesn't seem to flow as often and surely not as large or not changed as quickly as the positive one.

Take one good player and if he jumps +3 each week then he is already over a half million more in two weeks. Chances are, that he was to high to begin the season, never mind after two +3 weeks.

I have to look, did A-rod fall after his crap hitting streak?

Well, sure it's silly -- in the long haul. But in any particular week, not so silly. There's more to a PS than a W or ERA.

A PS with a high K / low BB count can overcome a couple ERs. An inning w/o K's is +3 pts. Less with BB's. An inning w/ 3 K's and 0 BB's is +6 pts. A couple of the latter innings more than makes up for a +5 W or an ER.

But of course, in general, the lower the ERA the better. I'd rather have a pitcher's duel and lose 2-1 with a lot of K's than win 2-1 with no K's -- in fact, the first scenario could result in more points overall.

That's my only point. We're not really disagreeing as much as you think...

Wednesday

DB 932 Ariz (-8) 2 934 Colon
JG 841 Mets (20) 57 898 Colon
PL 867 Clev (ppd) 27 894 BoSox
FS 773 Balt (-5) 25 798 BoSox
BD 765 Clev (ppd) 28 793 Oakland
SC 710 Mets (20) 51 761 BoSox
LD 701 Oak (16) 46 747 BoSox
IM 674 Oak (16) 32 706 BoSox
MC 579 Clev (ppd) 18 597 Wood

3HR Lowell (20 pts) - no one
2HR Casey, Mirabelli - no one

Looks like FS and I are the lone wolves today...

Go Cubbies! Go D-backs!

Cleveland Game:

THE GAME HAS BEEN POSTPONED DUE TO RAIN. NO MAKEUP DATE HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED

Sorry Folks!

Just lost two offensive players...

To those who had the Cleveland PS, sorry.

Ouch.

I wish my game was rained out. :rolleyes:

Piece of shit Mets!! Great F*CKIN' offense!

Jeez - 20 pts isn't bad, I'll take it! You sound like you had picked Arizona or something...

I resemble that remark... :rolleyes:

That 20 point total should have been 25. Only the Mutts could have a staff give up one earned run and still lose the game.

I guess it IS relative, though. Looking at some of the other picks I suppose I should be happy with the 20.

The "lone wolves" resemble that remark!

SC, I gotta ask, what are you doing picking the Mets anyway? I mean, I like them but they don't have the run support to help them win a lot of games. Nor are their pitches the best in the NL.

Irish - The idea of the game is to predict who you think will do well on any given day. I hate the Mets, but I picked them (also) thinking I'd get a decent amount of points from them tonight. And, SC and I did. Perhaps not as well as Hudson is going to do -- but picking the Mutts saved a lot of $ for better offense.

DAMMIT PORK!!!!!!!! If I were within slapping distance of you!!!!!!!!!

I looked at the screen. And then probably the time you uttered these stupid words, BOOM! 4 ER's!!!

Arrrghhhh!!!! Don't you know the power of the jinx?????????

You'd better quick find a way to make this up to me. I still have some OFF-ensive players playing

Well, what do you know... voodoo dolls work! I didn't mean to jinx you guys I'll put in a good word with the Man Upstairs: maybe He'll give you a 20 inning game to make up for it

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I don't want to stay up that late for a 20 inning game!!

You can make Grissom, Young or Scutaro (yeah, I know....) make 20 points like the Lowell I usually have on my roster

Oh! Unless SC or FS or anyone I am trying to gain ground on have those people.

Unfreakinbelievable!

(PS: I just realized I have NEVER slapped a guy in my WHOLE life! You may be my first! )

I'd be happy to be your first. I had no idea you were a virgin! Oops, Scutaro flied out, sorry. But hey, you got 3 more runs

The slap hear around the boards.

Sounds like another cherry being busted!

No big bragging tonight on the old baseball diamond.

Congrats Pork on your ascension into 2nd place!!

Now who wants to argue that pitching doesn't matter!!!!!!!!!!

I couldn't get 6th place and all I needed was a lousy 9 points to get by SC! Tomorrow is yet another day.

(But also another day closer to the weekend )

Tom Glavine, their starting pitcher has great stats this season (so far) and they're going against a marginal team (Montreal). Ya gotta figure Glavine will hold the opponent to a run, or two (which he did) and just hope the Mets will outscore them (which they didn't). Still, 20 points ain't too bad for a losing staff.

Don't go by me....my pitching choices this year have sucked.

Stop pushing me, lady. While I'd enjoy the view better if you were in front of me, you ain't gonna pass me. :p

What's wrong with your view of Bad Daddy??

Tom Glavine, their starting pitcher has great stats this season (so far) and they're going against a marginal team (Montreal). Ya gotta figure Glavine will hold the opponent to a run, or two (which he did) and just hope the Mets will outscore them (which they didn't). Still, 20 points ain't too bad for a losing staff.

Don't go by me....my pitching choices this year have sucked. [/b][/quote]The Mets fan lament. I heard this observation on the radio yesterday: there's not one player on the Mets who would start for the Yankees.

SC if your pitching choices suck then mine are in a vacuum. 18 pts of offense last night and my pitcher gets rained out. Boy am I having fun!!

Wow... 2 points... Less than the fingers on one hand... Man, when I take a dive, I do it right. Ugggghhh

I feel ill.

Did I break the record for lowest score this year?

Where's Bad Daddy when you need him to make a few good Wood and Colon jokes?? :p

Thursday

DB 934 Colon ()
JG 898 Colon ()
PL 894 BoSox ()
FS 798 BoSox ()
BD 793 Oakld ()
SC 761 BoSox ()
LD 747 BoSox ()
IM 706 BoSox ()
MC 597 Wood ()