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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004 #238614
08/01/04 07:52 AM
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Ass. Commissioner's Suggestion:

First, we need to reach a consensus on what the below paragraph from the rules mean:

SUSPENDED/DELAYED GAMES
A game is considered suspended when at least one pitch was thrown on the scheduled day of the game before play is stopped. When a game is suspended, the stats for the game will be displayed on the date that the game was originally scheduled. When the game is made up, the stats for the appropriate dates will be rerun to reflect the completion of the game and the effect on all team statistics. Even if the suspended game is completed as part of a double header at a later date the points will be credited to the original game date. A game is considered delayed when a pitch is never thrown on the scheduled day of the game. A game that is delayed will have its stats displayed on the day that the game is made up.


The above is not exactly what I would call well written, however I interpret it to mean that in cases when a player accumulates points in the suspended game that is completed at a later date, they're gonna go back and credit them to the scores on the date the game was originally played.

One of the ambiguities with the way it is written above, I think, is this phrase:

"When the game is made up..."

What it should say, if we are to assume that you get the additional points, is

"When the game is completed...

Anyway, should we decide that the additional points accumulated by players in that game after the game was suspended should count, and if ESPN does not credit those points, which would be contrary to our interpretation of the rules, then I think we should manually calculate those points, and credit them accordingly.

Edit
I did the calculations...

JG: Everett (got all 3 points he's entitled to)
LD: Bagwell (Bags scored 5, LD got credit for 3)
DB: Dunn (Dunn scored 7, DB got credit for 6)
CC: Kent (Got the 1 point she's entitled to)
MC: Beltran (Beltran scored 4, MC got credit for 3)
FS: LaRue, Kent, Pena (LaRue scored 3, FS got credit for none; Pena scored 2, FS got credit for none; FS did get credit for Kent's 1.)

So, if we need to add the points in ourselves, it's

LD +2
DB +1
MC +1
FS +5

Your Ass. Commissioner
Working harder to serve you better


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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004 #238615
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My interpretation is the same as yours plaw... None of us picked Houston (save CB) yesterday because either (i) we believed that any points incurred during the completion of the game was going to be credited for Friday's scores (i.e. - no "doubleheader" points) or (ii) some of us missed it, which is also a possiblity.

I would say wait a couple of days... I believe ESPN will either credit those points or issue a ruling... If they somehow don't count the second day points, my vote is to do a manual change...

For me personally, I don't think it matters much because I don't think Dunn scored any points on Saturday - possibly a walk??

Re: Baseball Challenge 2004 #238616
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However, since FS stands to gain the most, I propose that we forget about the whole thing. :p


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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004 #238617
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See edit above, DB


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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004 #238618
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Got it, plaw...

On an unrelated note...

NOMAHHHHHHH!!!!

The best thing about this deal - we kept Clement and our best prospects!

It's unbelievable how excited the city is...

It could bite us in the butt (one word - Dontrelle), but the move could prove to be every bit as significant as getting Aramis Ramirez last year.

Re: Baseball Challenge 2004 #238619
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Quote:
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However, since FS stands to gain the most, I propose that we forget about the whole thing. :p
spoken like a person who would have nothing to gain.
Oh, and thanks for following thru with it.


ONLY gun owners have the POWER to PROTECT and PRESERVE our FREEDOM.
"...it is their (the people's) right and duty to be at all times armed" - Thomas Jefferson, June 5, 1824

Everyone should read. "HOW TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD"

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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004 #238620
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Nomahhhh couldn't wait one more freaking day to move? :rolleyes: I'm glad trading deadline's over. Although, I guess 48 points with three of my guyes not playing isn't anything to sneeze at.


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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004 #238621
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I hear what you are saying Bethie. There are many changes yesterday and I think a few of us had some of those players. Like you said, we didn't do bad tho.

Did you look at what there is to pick from for another Crap MONDAY.


ONLY gun owners have the POWER to PROTECT and PRESERVE our FREEDOM.
"...it is their (the people's) right and duty to be at all times armed" - Thomas Jefferson, June 5, 1824

Everyone should read. "HOW TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD"

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You really don't expect people to believe your shit do you?

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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004 #238622
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I haven't looked yet. But thanks for the warning.

As long as my boys come out to play I'll be a happy gal.

EDIT: There's TWO games tomorrow??? Talk about a shitty day!!!


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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004 #238623
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Quote:
Originally posted by Beth E:
As long as my boys come out to play I'll be a happy gal.
Must... not... make... tasteless... joke... Must... keep... strong...

OK, I feel better now. :p

Re: Baseball Challenge 2004 #238624
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Come on man!! I throw you guys a long ball and you won't take it? I must be losing my touch.


How about a little less questions and a lot more shut the hell up - Brian Griffin

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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004 #238625
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Yeah, I just can't wait for the post that says: That it is ok, it is more of a challenge.
Yeah Right....
It sucks and then you get stuck with a adjustment in values at the same time. Not to mention how in life, Mondays suck in general.

**Don't make comments on what Bethie said**
**Don't make comments on what Bethie said**
**Don't make comments on what Bethie said**


ONLY gun owners have the POWER to PROTECT and PRESERVE our FREEDOM.
"...it is their (the people's) right and duty to be at all times armed" - Thomas Jefferson, June 5, 1824

Everyone should read. "HOW TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD"

CAUTION: This Post has not been approved by Don Cardi.

You really don't expect people to believe your shit do you?

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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004 #238626
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Awwww... and when I went to bed late last night, only had a score of 806 according to MY calculations. I thought I was only 3 pts behind... :rolleyes:

I am pretty happy with what the Dodgers worked out. Pretty risky to trade at the 11th hour when you are in first place by only a couple of games but I am excited about the prospects of Brad Penny and Steve Finley in particular. I thought I heard that Charles Johnson was coming back to his old team - not exactly Lo Duca but some familiarity there.


I have a tendency to wear my heart on my sleeve -
I have a history of taking off my shirt.....
Re: Baseball Challenge 2004 #238627
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I'm always a day early. I have Marrero and Franco yesterday and they don't even play. Today they both have RBI's. :rolleyes:

I may not play next year.


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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004 #238628
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The Florida game was postponed so I guess that means I lose my 3 ps points and 1 offense point. :rolleyes:


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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004 #238629
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SUNDAY
Code:
 
 
PL 812  Milw  (04) 41+ 
LD 803  Cubs  (16) 30  833
DB 791  Fla   (--) 39  830 
JG 757  SF    ()  +16+
CB 749  Hstn  (15) 33  782
CC 723  Fla   (--) 36  759
MC 705  Milw  (04) 12+ 
FS 687  W Sox (21) 59  746
SC 576  Fla   (--) 32  608
                         
 
Any pts for Fla and Mon players have been subtracted, hopefully correctly.

15 pts Burnitz - DB, FS



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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004 #238630
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How come DB's 3 points for Florida still count? :p


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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004 #238631
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Quote:
Originally posted by Beth E:
How come DB's 3 points for Florida still count? :p
Cuz he paid me $5 to keep them. (Thanks for pointing that out, Bethie )



I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! tongue lol

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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004 #238632
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I'll pay you $10 to my 4 points back.


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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004 #238633
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Why stop there? There's a special for today only: 50 pts for $100 -- or 750 pts for $1000!



I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! tongue lol

Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin

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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004 #238634
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For a $1000 that better include knocking off Plaw.


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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004 #238635
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Looks like another bullschmidt outing! :rolleyes:

As for the $1000, sure, it'd knock him off. But I failed to say that that money is payable to every player to keep it fair



I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! tongue lol

Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin

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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004 #238636
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SUNDAY
Code:
 
 
PL 812  Milw  (04) 43  855
LD 803  Cubs  (16) 30  833
DB 791  Fla   (--) 39  830 
JG 757  SF    (05) 35  792
CB 749  Hstn  (15) 33  782
CC 723  Fla   (--) 36  759
FS 687  W Sox (21) 59  746 *
MC 705  Milw  (04) 14  719
SC 576  Fla   (--) 32  608
                         
 
Any pts for Fla and Mon players have been subtracted, hopefully correctly.

15 pts Burnitz - DB, FS



I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! tongue lol

Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin

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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004 #238637
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FS could just promise Pops some business. SC is too busy sleeping to notice if he got paid or not. MaryCas we can just slip a bottle of wine. Buffy I think would be satisfied with just Plaw being gone. DB is too sweet. He'd never agree.


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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004 #238638
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Quote:
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Looks like another bullschmidt outing!
Same thing as a bullsheets outing, huh?

(You knock me off? I knock you off)


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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004 #238639
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Quote:
Originally posted by Beth E:
DB is too sweet. He'd never agree.
For $1000 he might not be that sweet But then again, if Plaw chooses to, he can pay everyone $2000 to buy out your points. So we all basically make out! Let's do it...!



I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! tongue lol

Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin

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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004 #238640
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I don't know where this rep of "sweet" comes from... You know, I'm registered as a lethal weapon in the continental 48.

Florida rained out... Sonovu#$(O#($&#$!

Weather wasn't like that last night when I checked it. Uggggh.... I hate this game. Ruined a perfectly good offensive night. Sorry Crabby, more DB pitching virus...

Re: Baseball Challenge 2004 #238641
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Quote:
Originally posted by J Geoff:
So we all basically make out! Let's do it...!
Getting paid $2000 to make out. Is that legal in most states?

Sorry DB. I can't picture you in chaps riding a harley down Sunset Strip. Keep writing those nasty letter though. You're slowly changing my mind.

There's only 2 games. What's the odds both games will be rained out?


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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004 #238642
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Quote:
Originally posted by Beth E:
There's only 2 games. What's the odds both games will be rained out?
The odds are exactly zero -- both games are being played in domed stadiums :p



I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! tongue lol

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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004 #238643
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With my luck some concrete or something could fall down from the sky. Just wait and see. :p


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