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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/18/04 03:22 AM
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OMG, for the first time, I actually missed a double header...  And shit, I noticed at 3:20... fuck! :rolleyes: 
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/18/04 03:31 AM
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Wednesday
PL 1645 Mil ()
DB 1611 SF ()+()
JG 1568 StL ()
LD 1540 SF ()+()
CC 1529 SF ()+()
CB 1448 Oak ()
FS 1375 StL ()
MC 1331 Pit ()
SC 1274 SF ()+()
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/18/04 03:34 AM
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Originally posted by J Geoff:
OMG, for the first time, I actually missed a double header... Should we get out the crying baby picture?
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/18/04 03:35 AM
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I'm just wondering why you didn't take advantage of picking one of the d-h PS's... I don't know who's pitching, but, I *always* go for the potential, but you chose not to... interesting....
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/18/04 03:36 AM
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I wrestled with that one a long time. The pitchers were too crappy, the wind is supposed to blowing....
I couldn't find even one guy on SF who I was sure was gonna play both games, so I wound up with more Montreal hitters.
Couldn't take the SF staff with more guys from Montreal on offense, couldn't take the Mont PS with who they had pitching....
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/18/04 03:43 AM
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Well, all I gotta say is... I hope I don't get too burned by this fundamental error. OMG, this really (I think) is the first one I missed in 1+ years... and, it's been on my calender!! Ah well, we got some time left...
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/18/04 03:56 AM
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I wouldn' fret too much over missing this one.
Like I said, who on SF will play both games? Probably one of their 3 outfielders, since they only carry 5, but which one? Bonds (age 40), Grissom (37) or Tucker (35)?
The only SF guy I think will play both is Feliz (one at 1B and one at 3B) 'cause I don't think Snow or Fonzie will play both, and maybe Dustin Mohr, who could fill in in both games for one of the outfielders who gets rested. And I didn't even take Feliz anyway, thinking that Wilkerson was the better pick.
The only reason I took Bonds & Durham is because they're as good a pick as anyone, DH or not, and who knows? They could get into the second game if they don't start by pinch hitting or something.
Aside from Wilkerson, and Batista at 3B, the other two Mont guys who I picked because I thought they would play both games - Chavez & Gonzo - aren't such great hitters anyway.
This was the worst DH to try and pick from an offensive POV that I can remember.
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/18/04 06:33 AM
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Wednesday (Official) (-1 for JG, +3 for LD & CB, +2 for SC)
PL 1645 Mil (10) 48 1693
DB 1611 SF (03)+(17) 63 1674
LD 1543 SF (03)+(17) 80 1623 *
JG 1567 StL (14) 49 1616
CC 1529 SF (03)+(17) 73 1602
CB 1451 Oak (13) 57 1508
FS 1375 StL (14) 30 1405
MC 1331 Pit (02) 18 1349
SC 1276 SF (03)+(17) 68 1344
Reminder: You can go here http://www.arsiva.com/bbc/picks.aspx?type=1&id=1486 to see who has who in the DH.
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/18/04 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by plawrence:
I wouldn' fret too much over missing this one.
Like I said, who on SF will play both games?
Aside from Wilkerson, and Batista at 3B, the other two Mont guys who I picked because I thought they would play both games - Chavez & Gonzo - aren't such great hitters anyway.
Yeah, tough call yesterday but of all the offense I chose for today, all but one (and my catcher, of course) played both games in the prior DH's in June. I look at it this way - ANY game is a crap shoot to whether or not a player plays. I screwed up last time I took a non DH team on a DH day - thought I was being smart. That too is a crap shoot. I agree with Pork - you sometimes just have to go for the "potential" and hope any runs scored against your PS is by the opposing offense you have. And Pork - you have to write these down???? You can't tell by the probables when a team is listed twice???  Maybe you need a palm pilot like DB has to keep track! Palm Pilot. Pork. There is a good joke there, I just know it! :p
I have a tendency to wear my heart on my sleeve -
I have a history of taking off my shirt.....
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/18/04 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by plawrence:
The pitchers were too crappy, the wind is supposed to blowing.... Smelling like a rose, as usual - good call (so far)... Game 2 SF SP is shit, and who knows who's pitching for Montreal... I feel a bit better with my Woody now. Tho I'm gonna miss that offense Let's see how the offense faired in Game One: 10 pts - Vidro (LD, CC, CB) 6 pts - JT Snow (CC, SC) 5 pts - Wilkerson (PL, DB, LD, CB) 4 pts - AJ (JG, LD, CC, CB, SC), Deivi (no one) 3 pts - Gonzalez, Chavez, Schneider, Rivera 2 pts - Durham, Nick Johnson 1 pt - Ledee, Batista, Mohr 0 pts - Tucker DNP - Grissom, Bonds (1 AB), Alfonzo
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/18/04 07:25 PM
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Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by plawrence:
[b]The pitchers were too crappy, the wind is supposed to blowing.... Smelling like a rose, as usual [/b][/quote]   Let's see how the offense faired in Game One: Fared :p
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/18/04 08:09 PM
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Originally posted by plawrence:
[quote][b]Let's see how the offense faired in Game One: Fared :p [/b][/quote]:rolleyes: I meant "fair" as in "moderately good". Yeah, that's it. :p
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/18/04 09:04 PM
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Woody vs Hancock - and Hancock is prevailing  Way to go you Giants! 11-1 already, and only half-way through the game! I guess those who picked SF made the right choice after all!
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/18/04 09:13 PM
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It ain't over 'til it's over.
How many times have we seen some late and meaningless runs kill a good PS performance?
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/18/04 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by plawrence:
How many times have we seen some late and meaningless runs kill a good PS performance? That was my plan Freakin' dropped from 3rd to 5th right now cuz I missed this freakin' DH tho! :rolleyes:
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/19/04 01:08 AM
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It was possible to pick all the right players to get the maximum number of points from the DH, and still be under the cap C Torrealba 2.0 5 Pts
1B Wilkerson 6.1 5
2B Vidro 5.1 10
3b Batista 5.5 4
SS Cruz 3.3 9
LF Bonds 7.2 11
CF Grissom 4.5 9
RF Tucker 5.0 6
DH Mohr 3.3 8
PS San Fran 4.4 20
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46.4 87Great job by Buffy with 80. She only missed at catcher (Pierzynski 4) and shortstop (Gonzalez 3)
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/19/04 01:19 AM
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Originally posted by plawrence:
It ain't over 'til it's over.How many times have we seen some late and meaningless runs kill a good PS performance? It happened here....Montreal got 3 runs and 5 hits (meaningless) in their last three innings.
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/19/04 01:35 AM
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Originally posted by plawrence:
I wouldn' fret too much over missing this one. I guess you're right. I did okay for a normal lineup. But I still lost a place in the standings, and lost ground on second... :rolleyes:
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/19/04 01:38 AM
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Originally posted by plawrence: It was possible to pick all the right players to get the maximum number of points from the DH, and still be under the cap
And picking the Cubs, Twins, ChiSox or Royals PS would've yielded 1-8 points more...
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/19/04 01:40 AM
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Yeah...I had the right idea, but the wrong staff. Santana (27) was my second choice, but I hate to pick against the Yanks offense.
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/19/04 05:46 AM
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Wednesday (Official) (-1 for DB, LD, CC, CB, & SC. Tucker's infield single in the 8th inning of the second game was changed to an error PL 1645 48 1693 StL Marquis 12-4 3.83
DB 1611 62 1673 NYY El Duque 5-0 2.08
LD 1543 79 1622 Cubs Maddux 11-8 3.94
JG 1567 49 1616 Cubs
CC 1529 72 1601 NYY
CB 1451 57 1508 Atl Ortiz 13-6 3.46
FS 1375 30 1405 NYY
MC 1331 18 1349 Pitt Perez 8-6 3.04
SC 1276 67 1343 NYY
Doubleheader: Mets at Colorado PL: 8 offensive players in DH DB: 8 offensive players, but four are different from PL LD: 1 JG: 7 CC: 8 CB: 0 FS: 0 MC: 0 SC: 6
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/19/04 06:36 AM
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PL vs DB: The Battle For First Place -- Analysis Phillips - Johnson at catcher With two lefties going for Colorado and Piazza on the DL, Phillips should play one game at first, and catch the other. Zeile should play the other at first, with Wilson catching. The only other first baseman the Mets have is Eric Valent, a lefty, who doesn't figure to start either game. Looks like PL has the edge here, if you assume that two games of the crappy Phillips is better than one of Johnson Miles - Garcia at 2B Mets only carrying three middle infielders (McEwing, Delgado, Garcia), with Matsui and Reyes both on the DL, so one of them has to play two. But will it be Garcia? Miles is no lock to play both games either, but if the each play only one, or they each play both, PL would seem to have the edge. DB has the advantage if Garcia plays two and Miles only one Holliday - Floyd in LFMets carrying only two spare outfielders, Gerald Williams and Valent. Against two lefties, Floyd, who is battling nagging injuries, figures to sit one out in favor of Williams. Holliday may not play two, either, but he has a better chance to do so than Floyd does. If they both play only one, or if they both play two, the edge goes to DB. But PL has the advantage if Holliday plays both and Floyd only one.Cameron - Burnitz in CFSee above. Who's gonna play center instead of Cameron? Williams can, but that would mean he plays both games, since I'm assuming he'll replace Floyd in one. Burnitz could play both, but I htink he'll sit against the lefty Leiter, since the Rockies have a bunch of no-name outfielders on their roster that they may want to give some playing time to. Burnitz is getting kinda old to be playing both ends of a DH, also. Of course, if both Cameron and Burnitz play both games, which is entirely possible, then DB gets the edge, but I think that Cameron is a lock to play two, and Burnitz isn't.Of course, the DH matchup (Morneau vs. Sierra) and the PS matchup (Cards-Yanks) could negate what I perceive to be my advantage, and turn the whole day upside down.
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