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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/19/04 06:42 PM
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Gotcha. Tho I see you changed your 3 to 4 real quick like no one would notice... 
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/19/04 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by plawrence: What was the logic in not taking Helton? If I told you, I'd have to kill you. First off, I don't think I could afford him. Secondly, he had a .154 BA against Benson. Third, lefty-lefty against Leiter, tho he has better numbers against him (at the same time, Leiter is a better pitcher). Fourth, while Helton's BA is hot, it's all been like 0-3 pts/game. Fifth, Daryl Ward had a great couple games after getting off the DL, and has good numbers off Lefties (tho at the same time,Perez is a good pitcher). But I think it basically was what I could afford, having the Cubs PS. And I didn't do the math, but, if I could've afforded him anyway, I guess I just went with the hotter bat at the time. I don't know...
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/19/04 06:57 PM
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I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/19/04 06:58 PM
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Good reasons, but Helton is still Helton. Whenever I look at a Rockies hitter against a pitcher, I always subtract something in my mind if the game is on the road, and add something in if it's at Coors. You could have saved some cap room by taking Cameron instead of Burnitz, BTW... :p 
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/19/04 08:13 PM
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Second Game..... No Burnitz, no Garcia (and no Sierra, DB)  :p No Phillips I can't believe how I missed the mark on Phillips. I figure he'll start both games, and he doesn't even start one. Art "Howe Did He Ever Become A Manager" has Wilson catch both games (unheard of), and uses 45 year old "Todd 0-6 in the first game and 8 for his last 49 Zeile" at first in both. Sheesh.....
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/19/04 08:20 PM
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Originally posted by plawrence: Art "Howe Did He Ever Become A Manager" has Wilson catch both games Excellent!  :p
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/19/04 08:27 PM
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Which?
"Howe did he ever become a manager?" or that he has Wilson catching both games?
Or both?
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/19/04 08:32 PM
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I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/20/04 12:40 AM
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Mr. Art Howe Manager http://www.NYMets.com]www.NY]www.NYMets.com Shea Stadium Flushing, NY Via E-Mail Dear Mr. Howe, I am a 9 year old baseball fan who plays in a fantasy league and hopes to someday manage a real baseball team. Anyway, congratulations on sweeping the Rockies today, but I have a couple of questions about strategy. I told all my friends - Geoffy (Porky), Ronnie (Douchey), Buffy, Hermie (Crabby), Mary, SCie, Mikey, Neri - that Jason Phillips would play both games of the doubleheader. I figured one game at catcher, and one at first base. I know he's been in a slump, but so has Todd Zeile and you let him play both games. Also, why let Vance Wilson catch both games? Now you have to rest him Friday anyway, right? So if he's only going to play two games out of three, why make it two games on the same day? Same thing with Zeile. San Fran has a lefty going tomorrow, but I don't think you're going to play Zeile again, are you? Not after his brilliant 0-10, anyway. I have to go now. My daddy wants to use the computer to look at porn, and it's way past my bedtime. Yours truly, Paulie "Pee" Lawrence P.S. You can write back to me if you want to at youngwindbag@hotmail.com
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/20/04 01:27 AM
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Thursday (Official)
PL 1693 StL (21) 79 1772 StL
DB 1673 NYY (-3) 44 1717 StL
JG 1616 Cubs (21) 70 1686 * Ariz
LD 1622 Cubs (21) 40 1662 Cubs
CC 1601 NYY (-3) 38 1639 StL
CB 1507 Atl (10) 40 1547 StL
FS 1405 NYY (-3) 38 1443 StL
SC 1343 NYY (-3) 60 1403 * Texas
MC 1349 Pitt (34) 49 1398 Pitts Doubleheader: Pittsburgh at St Louis Go Here for the rundown
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/20/04 05:39 AM
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The Battle For First Place -- PL vs. DB -- Analysis
Matheny vs. Wilson at catcher: Don't know. Could go either way.
Castillo vs. Womack at second base: So could this one
Wilson vs. D. Cruz at shortstop: Can't tell
McCracken vs. Sierra at DH: No idea
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/20/04 07:27 AM
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Actually, I do have something to say (what a surprise) In all of the above match-ups, two games of one of the players is better than one game of the other, regardless of who those players are. So altho the matchup at catcher could certainly go either way (I'll even give Wilson the edge, altho there's always the chance that he might not play at all) if, as expected, Matheny only plays one game, there is a chance, albeit a tiny one, that Matheny could play two, or at least pick up an extra at bat or two as a subsitute or a pinch hitter. Edge DB Castillo/Womack is the same story as Cameron/Burnitz yesterday. If they both play two games, Womack has the edge. But if one plays both, and the other only plays one, then the guy in both games has the advantage, and with these guys, who knows who will play two? Both teams have backups (Anderson & Hill) who get a fair amount of use. And the way Pittsburgh has so many guys who play different positions, it's always tough to figure out what their lineup will look like. Wigginton, Nunez, and Mackowiack also play second, so it's even a possibility that Castillo may not play at all. Edge DB McCracken/Sierra could obviously go either way, but with the Yankees having the Bernie, Lofton, Sierra triumverate filling two spots (CF and DH), it's hard to figure who'll play, especially against a righthander (Ortiz). Against a lefty, you can be pretty sure that Lofton will be the one to sit, but against a righty it could be Sierra. McCracken has been playing every day, at least against righties. Edge PL As far as Wilson/Cruz goes, I gotta figure Wilson has the edge. There's no reason to think he won't play both games, and even if he only plays one you gotta give him a big advantage over Cruz. Edge PL
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/20/04 08:09 AM
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Maximum Points Using All Doubleheader Players
C Wilson 2.7 7 points
1B Helton 7.1 7
2B McEwing 2.3 7
3B Wright 3.9 12
SS Clayton 4.9 5
LF Williams 2.7 10
CF Cameron 5.9 17
RF Hidalgo 5.2 15
DH Zeile 2.3 0
PS Mets 4.6 34
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41.6 114 All those points for only 41.6 :rolleyes: Even without the Mets PS, there's still 80 offensive points there. Basically, we all did crap.
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/20/04 10:26 AM
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Me neither, DB. By looking at my PS the last few days it doesn't look like I'm playing this year either. Not only did Buffy miss the DH but she has the exact same team as yesterday. I guess she's taking MC's point of view and just keeping one team and sticking to it. Here's hoping it works for her. *crosses fingers behind my back.* 
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/20/04 03:09 PM
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Friday
PL 1772 StL (16)+(24)
DB 1717 StL (16)+(24)
JG 1686 Ariz (31)
LD 1662 Cubs (19)
CC 1639 StL (16)+(24)
CB 1547 StL (16)+(24)
FS 1443 StL (16)+(24)
SC 1403 Tex (21)
MC 1398 Pit (-2)+(-1)
Doubleheader: Pittsburgh at St Louis Technical failure resulted in all PS points to be calculated manually.
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/20/04 03:37 PM
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Damn... looks like I f-ed up not picking StL PS :rolleyes: At least I stand alone w/ Mabry's HR 
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/20/04 04:11 PM
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Originally posted by J Geoff: Damn... looks like I f-ed up not picking StL PS :rolleyes:
Don't speak too fast.....look at the score NOW. Edit: Never mind.....only 2 of the runs were earned.
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/20/04 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by SC: Don't speak too fast.....look at the score NOW. That was my plan 
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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They only calculated 2 earned runs. I'll take 22 ps points. Good luck with The Diamondbacks, Geoff. I reaaaalllly mean. Honestly, I do. I'm not as spiteful as the other folks around here. 
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/20/04 04:16 PM
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Originally posted by Beth E: They only calculated 2 earned runs. I'll take 22 ps points. I'm sure you would take 22 pts, but you're only gonna get 16 :p Good luck in the second game!! 
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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The site often screws up, hence every day the -15 JG and +30 PL adjustments. I calculated 16 pts from the official box score (4 ER)
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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PL is an Ass Commish, and I wouldn't believe anything he said. Don't worry. I won't kill the messenger. Just to show what a real angel I am I'll still wish your boys well in the second game.  May your bats be long and your balls be plentiful.
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/20/04 04:34 PM
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Where the heck is Buffy?? She's gonna be REALLY PISSED when she comes back to see she missed two DH's and dropped to 5th (at this point)!  And it's not even the weekend yet!
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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08/20/04 11:08 PM
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ESPN and Yahoo sports lost their feed a few hours ago, apparently. Fox Sports is working, however. Cards won Game 2, 5-3. From my calculations, Game 2 is 24 pts for StL (+16 for Game 1 = 40 pts total). Pitts, -1 + -2 = -3 total. Cubs and Texas PS scores were also calculated, and posted above. I really do not want to calculate all the offense, so, hopefully it'll "come back" ...
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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