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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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The game was suspended because The University of Minnesota has a football scheduled for later and they had to clear the place out and get the field ready.
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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10/02/04 05:03 PM
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Saturday
PL 4143 Balt (02) () 20+
DB 4122 Balt (02) () 19+
JG 3834 Bost (13) () 27+
CC 3802 Bost (13) () 29+
SC 3542 Bost (13) () 40+
FS 3532 Ariz (--) 20+
CB 3148 Oak Incomplete
MC 2782 NYY Incomplete
DM 0619 Ariz (--) 27+
Today's Matchups: PL DB JG CC SC FS
C Mirabel Mirabel Mirabel Mirabel Varitek Hall
1B Palmy Palmy Palmy Mientky Overbay Mientky
2B Roberts Walker Cora Bellhorn Bellhorn Roberts
3B Mora Mora Newhan Mora Mueller Mora
SS Tejeda Tejeda Tejeda Tejeda Ojeda Tejeda
LF Bigbie G Willms Bigbie Roberts Ramirez Ramirez
CF Andersn Damon Podsedn Damon Sizemore Damon
RF Gibbons Nixon Nixon Mathews Dye Gibbons
DH Pikring Ortiz Ortiz Ortiz Morneau Rivera
PS Balt Balt Bost Bost Bost Arizona I like the SC-FS matchup at shortstop: Ojeda vs. Tejeda
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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10/02/04 05:16 PM
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Originally posted by plawrence: [whine alert]
Bottom of the 9th for Baltimore. First & third, nobody out.
My three guys coming up: Gibbons, Bigbie, Roberts.
OH boy! Here come some points! Extra innings, maybe, and a few more ABs for my guys.
So they all strike out.
[/whine alert] Oh, quit your bitchin'! As soon as I heard that Fuck (errr, I mean Foulke) came in to pitch I KNEW there'd be trouble.  Sure enough, he immediately gives up a double and a single..... the fact that the next three batters struck out is a miracle.
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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10/02/04 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone: stupid question alert:
Since you all know I have problems with the inning rule ...does a pitcher have to pitch a certain amount of innings to get a lose?? :rolleyes: Well, that was a stupid question. I will give you that. Thanks for the alert. Short (two word) answer: Um, no. Longer answer: As long as he faces at least one batter, and leaves the game trailing, and his team never ties the game or takes the lead, a pitcher can be charged with the loss. He can walk the first batter of the first inning, be removed, and if that guys scores, the run is charged to him. If the relief pitchers goes on to give up 9 more runs, and the score is 10-0, and the losing team comes back to make the final score 10-9, the first pitcher who only faced one batter and was charged with only one run is still the losing pitcher.
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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10/02/04 06:43 PM
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Second Game Lineups:
Boston
Roberts cf Bellhorn 2b Millar dh Ortiz 1b Nixon rf Cabrera ss Mirabelli c Youkilis 3b Kapler lf
Baltimore Roberts 2b Newhan rf Tejada ss Palmeiro 1b Lopez dh Bigbie lf Lopez 3b Gil c Raines Jr. cf
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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10/02/04 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by plawrence: He can walk the first batter of the first inning, be removed, and if that guys scores, the run is charged to him.
If the relief pitchers goes on to give up 9 more runs, and the score is 10-0, and the losing team comes back to make the final score 10-9, the first pitcher who only faced one batter and was charged with only one run is still the losing pitcher. Are you sure about that? That would not be true if the SP was lifted for an injury after walking the first batter. Even if he was charged for the one earned run, if the next pitcher gives up 15 ERs, I'm certain the reliever would get the loss, not the starter. But, I'm too tired and lazy to look that up right now.
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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10/02/04 09:34 PM
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Originally posted by plawrence: [quote]Originally posted by J Geoff: [b] Why'd you guys pick Balt PS again? I picked 'em because I figured DB would. Dee-Fense. [/b][/quote]Let me rephrase that question: Why on earth would either of you think of taking the O's PS -- or even think that the other guy would possibly take them, given the choice of O's and Sox? Why, simply cuz the home team is guaranteed to pitch 9 innings instead of 8? 
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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10/02/04 11:31 PM
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Originally posted by J Geoff: Are you sure about that? Well, there aren't too many things I would bet my life on, but I'm pretty certain about that. I don't think injury has anything to do with it. If the starter allows the first batter to reach base and then leaves the because of an injury, and his team goes on to lose 15-0, the starter is still the loser. If a SP leaves a game with his team trailing, regardless of when, and his team never ties the score or goes ahead, the SP is the losing pitcher. The official scorer does, however, have the option of awarding a win at his discretion, though. Let's say the home is trailing 2-0 after three innings. A relief pitcher comes in in the 4th, and gives up 3 more runs, so it's now 5-0 going to the bottom of the 4th. In the bottom of the 4th, the home team pinch hits for the reliever, scores 6 runs, and takes the lead, 6-5. Those 6 runs belong to the relief pitcher, and if the home team goes on to win without ever giving up the lead, he is technically entitled to the win. But if a second reliever comes in and finishes the game, and shuts out the visiting team for the 5th thru the 9th, or pitches 2 or 3 shutout innings or allows only one or two runs, the official scorer may, at his discretion, award the win to the second reliever because the first one did not pitch effectively, even though he left the game on the winning side of the ledger.
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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10/02/04 11:37 PM
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Originally posted by J Geoff: Let me rephrase that question: Why on earth would either of you think of taking the O's PS -- or even think that the other guy would possibly take them, given the choice of O's and Sox?
Why, simply cuz the home team is guaranteed to pitch 9 innings instead of 8? 1) Pedro Astacio. He did get rocked early. 2) The games meant more to Balt than to Bost 3) It was still a close call, so Balt being the home team was a factor 4) I figured that since that was what I figured, that was what DB would figure, so he would take Balt, so I would too.
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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10/03/04 12:47 AM
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SC, how in the world did you find Sizemore? That SOB with 13 points. Another close night my friend. Lets see what you have for tomorrow. Another night with our spots doing some great numbers.
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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10/03/04 01:06 AM
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Saturday's results (unofficial): PL 4143 Bal (-3) 40 4183
DB 4122 Bal (-3) 29 4151
JG 3834 Bos (26) 64 3898
CC 3802 Bos (26) 67 3869
SC 3542 Bos (26) 71 3613
FS 3532 Ari (28) 67 3599
CB 3148 Oak (09) 32 3180
MC 2782 NYY (08) 10 2792
DM 619 Ari (28) 82 701 Looks like we're the only real race left, FS, although DB and CC are still within striking distance of moving up.
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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10/03/04 01:11 AM
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Originally posted by plawrence: 2) The games meant more to Balt than to Bost Umm... How?? O's are out of it, doesn't mean shit to them. Not one game meant shit to them all season! Of course, Boston was gonna rest some guys cuz for them it didn't mean anything - for real. That's what made picking Sox offense so tough, cuz hardly any were destined to play two games. Hell, even O's were gonna get some rookies some at-bats... This late in the season, if October isn't in the team's future, it's all a matter of getting the rookies some work. And for October teams, that AND keeping the regulars sharp; and, not wearing out your good pitchers. But, to actually pick the O's PS over Boston, to me -- even on the road -- was kinda crazy. So maybe that's why I'm always 3rd... I'm not crazy enough! 
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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10/03/04 01:21 AM
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Originally posted by fathersson: yes, but what about Sizemore ? Where did you pull him from? It's pretty self-explanatory, if one is looking for "more size"; it's like a magnet, right? :p Real answer: That's why he's beating you 
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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10/03/04 01:29 AM
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All I know is, I should've taken The Big Unit tonight. (1 ER out of 6?!!) Two more PS points than Boston's TWO games combined... but more importantly, I would've had more $ for offense.
Damn.
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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DMC - I didn't check the offical box score, so I don't know for sure right now... The only thing I know for sure is, yeah, you're dead last! 
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Re: Baseball Challenge 2004
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After reading thru the play-by-play, it looks like 1 ER to me. MAYBE 2 ERs at the most (it does get confusing sometimes). Ojeda's homer in the 8th is obvious. (That name sounds familiar  ) But the 4th inning is such: SAN DIEGO 4TH -F Guzman flied out to center. -M Loretta safe at third on throwing error by shortstop J Gil. -R Aurilia singled to center, M Loretta scored. -P Nevin singled to left, R Aurilia to second. -M Ojeda grounded into fielder's choice to third, P Nevin out at second, R Aurilia to third. -X Nady reached on infield single to third, R Aurilia scored, M Ojeda to second. -J Payton singled to right, M Ojeda scored, X Nady to third. -A Gonzalez tripled to deep right center, X Nady and J Payton scored. -B Sweeney grounded out to third. 5 runs, 5 hits, 1 error San Diego 5, Arizona 0 TO ME, that was a terrible inning. While, personally, I see the first run being unearned; I wouldn't be all that surprised if they rule the subsequent runs earned after all those hits. We'll see for sure tomorrow. But yeah, FS sounds right (for once) 
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