That "blank" team I assume is TODAY's team, and your "current team" is tomorrow's. It is confusing, and in a day or two we should have the hang of it...

Congrats on your BooSox win :rolleyes:

Apparently the unlimited trades period is over -- mine now says "2 Trades Left" -- so if anyone plans on getting a roster in for tomorrow, you better calculate your match correctly and not sell off someone unnecessarily! You can only replace 2 players per week!

I may not play next year

What a stupid game.

When you pick a roster for the first time when you join the game, they should let you have unlimited trades, until you click on something that says "set roster" or something.

It's waaaay too much work to look at all the cap values, and try to pick a team before actually officially buying the player.

Anyway, what are we doing?

Discounting the 83 and 36 points scored yesterday by SC and JG, and starting from scratch today, right?

And no buying extra trades, right? We're all gonna go with the two per week? Or do we want to spend the few bucks, buy unlimited trades, and turn this into a daily game?

What??? You were in the league before me... if I lose yesterday's (meager) points I'm at a disadvantage because I'm forced to trade someone for games starting today. Thats not fair!

We were all locked out of the LA game, but if you didn't pick in time for the other two games that's tough noogies for you.

Fair enough.

I should start with a handicap, anyway.

I didn't think they'd count, but suspected they "might" since it still said "unlimited trades" still. They must have ESPNitis

Damn, SC, 71 pts from Schilling alone. I HAD him on my roster, but thought that yesterday's games weren't going to count and I didn't wanna wait for his next start. So I took the Rocket today

Plaw, you had your chance yesterday, same as everyone else. Handicap, indeed -- but no astrisk if you lose :p

And I'm for not buying extra trades cuz I wanna see how this game works. It changes the strategy.

Initial Lineups (10/5 scores)


Note: That clarifies my earlier question about players eligible for other positions. Figgins played outfield, but I had him as a CI, and his points counted as OF while CI indicates "no player".

Wow, some good pitching tonight. From my quick calculations, 129 pts! Clemens (67), Lieber (44), Rivera (18).

Then again, I'm getting a zero tomorrow.

I'm concerned about the 2 trades/week bullshit. GOD FORBID the Yanks don't make it past Minnesota, I'm fucked! I have 5 Yanks on my team. Then again, this is just for fun/practice, so I guess it doesn't matter. Unless you guys wanna buy trades

Seems Plaw may've caught up quick.


P.S. DMC is the real wuss for bringing this up, and then not playing...

At first I thought we were screwed because we were locked out of the NL games.....then I thought I'd be able to pick some of those players but I was afraid to use up my trade allowances.....now I'm completely baffled about this game.

Like the Brooklyn Dodgers (I'll) wait 'til next year.

Giving up already, huh?

I'm not baffled. I figured out the startegy (I think)- not to say that I employed it when picking my team yesterday - and this is really a totally different game from what we're used to.

Playing it the way that we are, with only two trades per week, I think the strategy is to try and figure out

1) Which two teams are gonna make it to the World Series, and
2) Which of those two teams is gonna need more games to get there. Then
3) To the extent that it's possible, load up on the players from that team.

I mean, if you figure that the Yanks are gonna get there and take 12 games to do so, then certainly 10 or 12 games of Miguel Cairo is better than 3 or 4 from jeff Kent, if you figure Houston's gonna be knocked out in the first round,

Just like 3 starts from Jon Lieber is better than one or two from Clemens or Oswalt.

If you guess right on the two World Series teams, and you saved your trades, you should be in great shape. You can use the trades, assuming that it can be done within the cap, to tweak your roster the final few days, especially for starting pitchers.

If you guessed wrong, you use your trades to replace players from the team you were wrong about.

If you were wrong about both, you're fucked, because you don't have enough trades to replace all of those players.

To put it another way, this game, I think, is all about guessing who's gonna make it to the WS. Unless a pitcher throw a couple of really big games and his team gets eliminated, or a hitter has a monster series or two and his team gets eliminated, I'd bet that at the end, all of the highest scorers come from the two World Series teams.

You got it right, there. If you think the Yanks are gonna make it to the WS, then I'd say you played it correctly

I've been working on 2 papers for school and didn't have the time to play.
You seemed like you REALLY wanted to play a playoff fantasy baseball so I suggested it.

Your analysis was pretty much dead-on, Plaw. And had I not been so rushed for time, I too would've thought it out better (tho I did load up on Yanks, just assuming...)

The old ESPN post-season game was basically "build a team and ride it out" without ANY changes whatsoever. And you had to pay for that SIAFI team (with a discount for 5 teams), and it wasn't even interactive (fun). Yet I played 5 scenarios, and screwed up every single one! It was 2002, and the Yanks were eliminated. I didn't predict the winners. My "pot luck" team of players from all over was my best, and I only managed a 48.12%ile. I was "gonna do better the next year" but they didn't have the game again -- I guess too many complaints for a pay-game or something. But the strategy is basically the same.

This one is "interesting" but I cannot imagine playing such a game, with 2 trades/week. At least for the regular season, fuggedaboutit! It's also a bit retarded that you can't see all the available players without using a trade (that I can see). Selling someone off and not seeing what's out there?? Stoopid!

I'm gonna ride this one out -- and perhaps play next post season -- but don't anticipate playing any similiar TSN games if this is how they work.

Yeah....

Stoopid-a-fockin' game. Like golf.

Just remembered I needed to do this:



1) CC couldn't wait to remove herself from the league for some reason, so she's disqualified from the final rankings.

2) PL managed to win ONE week (and tied two others) in the second half, and still squeaked it out.

3) DB won a league-leading FOUR weeks of the 11, and couldn't hold on.

4) JG's Week 1 (which included 11 days) was the highest-scoring week of the entire segment.

5) FS and SC really battled it out the last two weeks.

6) DMC may kick all our asses if he plays next year. No more PL/DB/JG Top Three if DM's last week is any indication.

7) MC is the only one who didn't win a week this segment. He should stick with golf, even tho he's losing that, too.

8) Buffy was missed this second half.

Not to take anything away from DMC's achievement (seriously), but in my opinion, the last week was strategy-filled - leading us to pick players that we normally wouldn't on the basis of going "unpredictable" and playing defense.

In any case, I look forward to having DMC for an entire year next year - if he's still around.

I think I did the same last half as well. Conclusion: It just shows my inconsistency - either I'm doing really well or I'm doing really badly.

Too bad my bad weeks offset my good weeks.

lol

PL managed to win ONE week (and tied two others) in the second half, and still squeaked it out.
You're overestimating the importance of winning a week. If the week ran, I dunno, Wednesday to Tuesday or something, the results might have been different with respect to who won how many weeks.

Consistency is the key. Out of 11 weeks I won or tied for first 3 times, finished second or tied for second 6 times, and finished third (by only 2 points) one time.

DB won a league-leading FOUR weeks of the 11, and couldn't hold on.
Hold on to what? I was in first place for like the entire last five weeks. Oh, he came close a few times, but every time he did, I pulled away. And in the four weeks he won, he beat me by a total of only 86 points.

In fact, except for week 21, the diference between us was never more than 41 points in any one week. I didn't look, but I'd bet that there weren't two other players in our league who, if you compared their scores, were as close as he and I were every week.

DMC may kick all our asses if he plays next year. No more PL/DB/JG Top Three if DM's last week is any indication.
If you believe that one, I got a bridge to sell 'ya. How much can this kid know about baseball? He's the one who asked if a starting pitcher had to go a minimum number of innings to be charged with a loss. :rolleyes: No way he cracks the top three.

MC is the only one who didn't win a week this segment. He should stick with golf, even tho he's losing that, too.
Golf.....a stoopid-a-fockin' game

Buffy was missed this second half.
She's the only one who could crack the top three.

Let's review the past two years, shall we?

2003



2004

No, not really.

Your worst week, 306 was the best worst week in the league, you were the only one not to have at least one week under 300, and your two best weeks (446 & 441) were the two best weeks in the league until DMC's last week.

In fact, rather than being inconsistent, you were the second most consistent.

Here are the point differentials between the best week and the worst for everyone. I didn't include CB and MC, since they weren't really playing the last few weeks:

PL 291-420, 129
DB 307-446, 139
JG 238-402, 164
FS 227-409, 182
SC 238-424, 186

I think I see a pattern here. That really bolsters the argument for consistency.

Not only does the above exactly mirror our order of finish, but the differences in the "spreads", if you will, kind of mirrors how far apart we were in the standings, too.

Let's review the past two years, shall we?[/b][/quote]Well, IMO, that has the knowledge and potential.

I'd say Big Daddy too, maybe, but he's such a Wuss....

You guys are full of shit, look at my scores for the last three weeks. I know shit about baseball and I could put numbers up. I spent more time on it the last three weeks.
Why. because you have to spend TIME looking. Looking at this and looking at that and looking at this other crap and then making sure that is going to happen . This is a numbers game more then anything else.

If you want to spend the time and do research and more reseach and then pull it all together you can do very well at this game, if you don't you get what you put into it.
I have to admit, this game can be a lot of fun.
(someone pick Pee off the floor) if you can spend the time doing it right. There is the problem, like in any sport. TIME spending the time, and not just one night a week but EVERY FUCKIN DAY for a long length of time. Longer then any other sport. Longer then Bowling and that is only one night.

And it is during the best part of the year. After a long winter up here you really want to enjoy that time outside the house. And don't feed me that 10 mins a day crap. Or come home after a long day and sit down and spend all that time your nuts. Then it is to much like work for me.
If you want to do this game right you have to listen to sport shows, check websites, have a great memory or a great place for resourses on so many things and then there is always the WEATHER factors.
If you are playing against a no outside life and addicted person like PEE then you have to spend more time on this game, if you don't know baseball inside and out. Hell, many people know their own local home team or a team favorite, but you have to get to know all the teams and many of the player to really get into this game. Or look and relook at so many numbers and statistics. Like I said this is a numbers game!

The problem is who wants to spend that much into a game when there is so many other great things to do.... I just don't love the game that much. maybe when I am old.

Hey, look what I found going thru last year\'s thread !

FS....Could we have a "Rant Alert" next time, please?

That was a beautiful one, though. Perhaps your best.

And with less than a dozen misspellings/typos/grammatical errors, I'm so proud...!

You know, I'm thinking....

Maybe we should write a little preface for it, so everyone understands its context, and then give it a thread of its own in General Discussion.

I think everyone should have the pleasure of reading it.

It literally had me laughing out loud.

Maybe just some excerpts....

Playing with the numbers a little further.....

If you take the range of the worst week's score to the best week's score for each player and then divide that number by two (to get an "average" in that range) you can compare that average to the player's weekly average. Hence:

You will see my scores were (mathematically) most consistent. :p

Anyone want a double yolk egg?