Eat your hearts out....Hey, be quiet Pee, before I get on the phone and get the low down from you girlfriend. Then we will really find out how much time you spend. and then maybe we will also hear how little time it takes you to do other things. That is if you can do those other things yet.....

To win you have to be consistently good.

You were consistently good enough to finish 6th. I guess that means your scores were the most consistently mediocre. :p

Seriously FS... that Rant Alert would have been nice...

What's weird was that it was totally uncalled for? Not meaning to say that you shouldn't have written it (God knows that you have that speech down verbatim), but that none of the back and forth before your post even hinted that an FS comeback rant was necessary... :rolleyes:

In any case, whatever floats your boat.

I didn't say anything about winning. This game isn't about winning. If you don't believe me just ask FS.

(I'm going to hell, aren't I?)

Don't pick on my pal FS.

That was an All-Time Great Rant, and I, for one, am glad he wrote it.

I've already PMed the highlights to several members who might otherwise miss it.

As Plaw so eloquently put it previously, you can be consistently good or consistently bad... Consistency, at least statistically, is measured by standard deviation...

Below is the ranking of our standard deviations from our own means...

FS - 57.7
SC - 59.3
DB - 62.1
MC - 63.0
PL - 66.4
JG - 74.7
CB - 97.1
DMC - 117.4

I used to know how to figure that.

Could you refresh my memory?

I'm not picking on him. Just making an observation.

Anyway, I agree - that was a great rant. It was great the first time I heard it, the eighteenth time I heard, the 259th time I heard it, he was a little off during his 795th time, but picked it up quite nicely the 1068th time I heard it.. :p

Yeah, but he never summed it all up so succinctly.

We got bits and pieces before, but never all rolled into one like this.

And the phrasing.....

You guys are full of shit..... I know shit about baseball and I could put numbers up.....Looking at this and looking at that and looking at this other crap.......spending the time, and not just one night a week but EVERY FUCKIN DAY...... And don't feed me that 10 mins a day crap.....

I used to know how to figure that.

Could you refresh my memory? [/b][/quote]Standard Deviation is the square root of variance, which is calculated by:



As you can see from the formula, it's essentially a measure of the difference between a group of sample points versus the mean of all the sample points.

The only thing I can see from that formula is that I think we all may be going off the deep end.

OMG.....its a double yolk egg in between the parenthesis.

Pretty straightforward to me... Well, I did have my last statistics class about 5 years ago compared to your 30...

OMG.....its a double yolk egg in between the parenthesis. [/b][/quote]

Sure, A guy wants to air out his mind after a long season and you just can't take it. But yet, I have to listen to all your lists of numbers and why you pick this guy and this team and what % this is and what % that is. :rolleyes:
No wonder the girls left-
The hell with you- I don't think I will play next year! :p and if you don't act better Pee your GF will not let you play either.

Are you trying to confuse him?
Plaw, use one of these instead:

or



There's a simpler version here with lecture notes to refresh that 30-yr lapse of study.

I didn't say I couldn't take it... just wanted to know that basis of it. Just seemed really random...

Anyway, like I said, whatever floats your boat.

Can't take it? Hell, I loved it because you were almost right on the money with most of what you said.

And my GF already told me I can't play next year. But don't worry, I'll be back. I have the whole off-season to work on her.

You'll be back, too. Cutting grass, grilling, hanging flower baskets, and hoisting beers with the girls can get pretty boring after a while.

Then who's going to finish in 5th place then?? :p

yup you are right DS. It was my own personal achievement but when I saw Plaw taking the Orioles because the 2nd place person would, I realized the last week was not "competitive".

I'll be around for next year and for basketball.

To be completly honest with you plaw, I do not know much about baseball and the rules (if you couldn't tell) as I only started watching it 2 years ago. I still don't know nearly as much as you guys do about the SPORT itself but I do have a background with fantasy sports (basketball mostly and some football) So even though I don't know much about the rules and things like that, I know about good/bad hitters and pitchers and know how to work with them.


and if I do crack the top 3????

Friday

SC 203 44 247
JG 202 04 206
PL 190 12 202


Should I bother?

Well....

Baseball is a different game, obviously, than basketball or football.

One of the things we talked about last year when playing "Salary Cap" basketball was that it was almost strictly a numbers game.

The players are fairly consistent, at least much more so than in baseball. Except in rare cases, a guy who averages 20 PPG and 10 rebounds is gonna come pretty close to his 20 & 10 every night. A Point Guard who averages 10 assists is gonna get his 8-12 assists as long as he plays his 35 minutes.

So it becomes a game, really, of trying to fit the greatest number of expected points each day into a lineup that stays under the salary cap. It really doesn't matter who the players are. You could just give us the stat lines for all the centers and leave out their names, and we could pick a reasonably decent team.

The game was, more than anything, a mathematical exercise. In fact, we had a few players in last years game who professed to know nothing about basketball past Kobe, Shaq, and a few of the big names, and, while they didn't win, they didn't embarrass themselves either.

Baseball is different though. The best hitters go 0-4, the best pitchers come up with minus totals, and the cheapest players sometimes explode for big nights. There's a lot more study required in the baseball game, and a lot more luck involved as well.

There are also some nuances in the strategy which I won't share here, but which I can tell from looking at their selections every day, that the better players have picked up to some extent or another, while the weaker players haven't.

But the biggest single factor that leads to success is, as we've discussed before and what FS pointed out so beautifully in yesterday's rant, that you have to be prepared to play every single day.

DB and I were separated by 159 points over the course of more than 180 days. That's less than a point a day difference.

Having the Milwaukee PS and Ben Sheets on Monday, and then not changing your team and winding up with a Wes Obermueller on Tuesday is the sure road to ruin. Missing a doubleheader on a day when the guy in front of you scores 90, and you get 40, can be suicide.

In two years, we've played four "halves" of fantasy baseball, and DB, JG, and myself have finished 1-2-4, 1-2-4, 1-2-3, 1-2-3. The biggest single reason for that record of consistency, I believe, is that betwen the three of us we've missed a total of three days in two years.

Also, the history of our game has been that once people start to fall further and further behind they tend to lose interest and stop playing. You don't have any track record yet, so we'll see. Perhaps the salary cap basketball game will give us a better idea.

Can you crack the top three? I guess it's possible. I certainly wouldn't completely rule it out. But it won't be easy.

plaw points jump very quickly.

One of the teams I had during the regular season was in 6th place in the league the whole season and then the last 2 days I got 391 and 286 points and moved into first.

A score of about 150 is normal (at least for regular season) and you can have scores around 300-400 on a good day so you are nowhere near "out of it"

2 free trades/week is utterly ridiculous, tho. And the game interface is terrible. So don't count me in during the regular season w/ this game... :p

lol I know what you mean. I am not playing as many teams as I did this year for next year. I like espn better, and espn at least updates the scoring live not like them where you wait til the end.

The trades just make you pick the people for the "season" rather than for the "game". It's fun but I see how much better espn is so I look forward to that more.

What I meant was, should I bother posting the scores every morning.

This is a stoopid-a-fockin' game, and I've pretty much lost interest already.

DB had the right idea. Not playing was the smart move. DB was always smarter.

What i meant was, should i bother posting the scores every morning.

This is a stoopid-a-fockin' game, and I've pretty much lost interest already.

DB had the right idea. Not playing was the smart move. DB was always smarter. [/b][/quote]oh my mistake.

It's definitly not a game for everyone. I just suggested it because you guys seemed to want to play fantasy post season and that was the only one still available that I knew of.

Sorry everyone.

Who's blaming you?

I'm blaming Geoff.