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Re: Rocky Marciano- Greatest heavyweight champ ever #248906
12/24/04 01:47 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, plaw and my other BB pals, but I DO think that watching tapes is different than watching it when it really occurred. Let me tell you why.

1. Many of the fights they show these days are "best of" fights. So they're only going to show great Marciano fights (or that of any other old boxer). Some of the film they show might only show clips of a fight that make the fighter look like they were always aggressive and never took any punishment.
I've seen the following Marciano fights from start to finish: Rex Layne, Ezzard Charles, Archie Moore, Harry Matthews, Joe Walcott I, Joe Walcott II, Ezzard Charles II, Roland Lastarza II, Dan Cocknell, Carmine Vingo, and Joe Louis.

I've seen bits and clips of other fights, too. But I think I've seen enough of Marciano fights to know what kind of a boxer he is.

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2. Because you know that Marciano retired 49-0, you might watch these old films with a biased eye. That would be a little different if you were actually alive during the era and watched him not knowing how he would go down in history. Then you can form an opinion as the fighter went along, not 50 years later when everyone is making a fuss.
I think Marciano is the greatest, after I've sen many of his fights. Before I saw one of his fights, I didn't think that. It's irrelevant when I see it; I look at a fight and I see the same thing they saw back then. If I wasn't impressed, then I'd be saying someone else was the greatest.


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Re: Rocky Marciano- Greatest heavyweight champ ever #248907
12/24/04 01:55 AM
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Originally posted by plawrence:
Float like a butterfly
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Dons Marco and Corpuzzi
Both agree with me

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Just about everyone agrees with you except SSA. However, we're not going to change his mind and hes not going to change ours so i dont see the point of saying the same things over and over again.

Re: Rocky Marciano- Greatest heavyweight champ ever #248908
12/24/04 02:26 AM
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I guess. I'd like to see someone counter what I wrote about how a Marciano vs Ali fight would play out. That's not saying just repeat what you would think would happen, but actually talk reality and counter what I said.


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Re: Rocky Marciano- Greatest heavyweight champ ever #248909
12/24/04 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by Signore Sole Aumentante:
I guess. I'd like to see someone counter what I wrote about how a Marciano vs Ali fight would play out. That's not saying just repeat what you would think would happen, but actually talk reality and counter what I said.
Lets think about this for a second. If the someone thinks Ali was the best fighter, then how do you think they believe the fight will play out? If someone thinks Marciano was the better fighter, then how do you think they believe the fight will turn out? We've already been arguin about who the better fighter is so we already are basically arguing about who would win in a fight. You're arguing about the same thing, you're just asking about it in a different way.

Re: Rocky Marciano- Greatest heavyweight champ ever #248910
12/24/04 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by Signore Sole Aumentante:
I guess. I'd like to see someone counter what I wrote about how a Marciano vs Ali fight would play out. That's not saying just repeat what you would think would happen, but actually talk reality and counter what I said.
But we're not talking reality, we're talking hypotheticals.

I'd pay money to see that fight. No more arguing from me. Merry Xmas!

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