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Re: FFC - Commentry
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04/19/02 10:36 AM
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I agree with you about FFC mentioning that very often. I was kind of surprised that every single object had to do with him or his family, infact I almost got irritated by it. Its very clear from looking at that behind-the-scenes that he is the big man and bozzes over everyone. Like in that scene when Puzo says something and he almost ignores and goes on with his own stuff... In Carmellas wedding scene he says that no one would want to be in the coffin because it is not good because of religious reasons so they took FFC mother instead of Morgana king... I think its pure bullshit that she was the only one who voluntered, I bet there would have been a dousen of women out there who would have been glad to get that opportunity to be within one of the biggest movies in history. But it just feels as if FFC wanted the movie to represent him and his family. And when I started the third movie with his commentary I got tired of listening after 20 minutes because he only spoke about the songs that he got from his familys traditions etc...
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Re: FFC - Commentry
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04/19/02 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by injektilo: ...I don't think FFC has gotten over the fact that he almost was sacked. He seems to mention it every time he talks... He mentions it in every interview he does, everywhere he goes. I've gotten used to it. I like the story he told at Actor's Studio that he would fire his AD on Wednesday's to confuse the bosses, so that they didn't dare fire him on Friday's - pretty clever. And who knows, maybe they WERE planning to drop the ax, and due to financial necessity FFC found a way to keep a step ahead of them. Good for him, good for the films, and good for US!! Considering the way things turned out, I think he's got bragging rights. Apple
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
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Re: FFC - Commentry
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04/20/02 02:03 AM
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i find it distracting..
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"You go to law courts and wait for months. You spend money on lawyers who know full well you are to be made a fool of. You accept judgement from a judge who sells himself like the worst whore in the streets. Years gone by when you needed money, you went to banks and paid ruinous interest, waited hat in hand like a beggar while they sniffed around, poked their noses up your very asshole to make sure you could pay them back" Don Corleone to Bonasera from Godfather Novel
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Re: FFC - Commentry
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04/20/02 11:50 AM
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Of course its distracting, you're not supposed to be following the movie while listening to the commentry.
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Re: FFC - Commentry
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04/21/02 12:53 PM
04/21/02 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by Alberto_Neri: I agree with you about FFC mentioning that very often. I was kind of surprised that every single object had to do with him or his family, infact I almost got irritated by it. Its very clear from looking at that behind-the-scenes that he is the big man and bozzes over everyone. Like in that scene when Puzo says something and he almost ignores and goes on with his own stuff... In Carmellas wedding scene he says that no one would want to be in the coffin because it is not good because of religious reasons so they took FFC mother instead of Morgana king... I think its pure bullshit that she was the only one who voluntered, I bet there would have been a dousen of women out there who would have been glad to get that opportunity to be within one of the biggest movies in history. But it just feels as if FFC wanted the movie to represent him and his family. And when I started the third movie with his commentary I got tired of listening after 20 minutes because he only spoke about the songs that he got from his familys traditions etc... Zasa/Peppino/Senza Mama/Pennino/Coppola and others are all Puzo's Family. Carmine Coppola was his father whop wrote the music with Nino Rota. There is GF2 flashback cut scene where Augustino Coppola i a gunsmith and his young son, Carmine, is playing the flute for Tessio and Hyman Rothstein. A charcter from the book named ANthony Copola was changed to Francesco Nippi in the script, tehn cut from the movie. GF Legacy hint that Francis got fired almost every week. FFC: I want Brando Ruddy: he's too expensive. FFC: I hate pacino! Puzo: Pacino HAS to be Michael Corleone. FFC: We HAVE to shoot in NY! Ruddy: Too expensive. FFC: I hate this script! Puzo: It's a BEST SELLING story! FFC: It needs more killing, and LESS sex. Cuneo and Stracci HAVE to die too. Lucy, Juls,a nd Nino are GONE. Johnny isn't the star he's a BIT character, etc. But we got to thank Francis for the wonderful Trilogy!
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Re: FFC - Commentry
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04/22/02 03:15 AM
04/22/02 03:15 AM
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Hi! Originally posted by injektilo: All respect to him, but he goes on a bit too much about this, i think. Perhaps, that constant fear of being sacked and the success of the cute counter-move still remain his most strong impressions from this movie. But I think it just shows how little time he had to prepare for the recording of this commentary, and how little care he paid to it. Most of the stuff is somewhere in the books, so it's rather for initiating those who haven't been bitten yet. But it was amazing to learn how many scenes were shot by the second unit without Willis hanging around, the best examples being Mike's famous reappearance after the Sicilian sequence and most of the scene on the hospital stairs. Best regards. Alexander
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Re: FFC - Commentry
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04/24/02 05:38 PM
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I dont think i could ever watch the godfather with the commentary, just listening to ffc talk for so long isnt much entertainment, id rather watch the movie without the distractions
"You don't understand! I could've had class. I could've been a contender. I could've been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am. Let's face it......It was you, Charley." - Terry (Marlon Brando), On the Waterfront (1954). One of my favorites
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Re: FFC - Commentry
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05/10/02 12:48 AM
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I didn't really like FFC after hearing his commentary for GF3...it seemed to me that he was making the movie more about him than Michael.
Like how Michael was seeking redemption in a sorta midlife crisis way, that was Francis.....cuz he was going through that in his life at that time.
I think it's cool that he used stuff about his family in the first GF, it gave it a sense of realism with all those tiny real life details, but, FFC got carried away with it by GF3.
Not to mention he got his daughter in the movie...his father in the movie is a great move, but not Sophia as Mary.
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Stanley: You want a shot? (offers liquor) Blanche: No, I rarely touch it. Stanley: There's some people that rarely touch it, but it touches them often.
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Re: FFC - Commentry
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05/10/02 09:15 PM
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Originally posted by CamillusDon: I think you will find that he relates to Michaels background and the family life and times. Yes, I do not doubt that FFC can relate to Michael's background and family themes. In fact, FFC is the perfect fit to direct any GF related movie. I am just saying that it just seemed like GF3 was more about FFC than the Corleones from what he was saying throughout the commentary. I think that is part of the reason why many do not like GF3 because of its theme of redemption, which even Pacino didn't think was the right direction to go in GF3. There was less of Puzo in GF3. In the "A Look Inside" on the bonus materials disc, FFC was running the show at the script meetings...he didn't really listen to Puzo's suggestion. I know it's only snippets; therefore, I do not know the whole story behind GF3...but still. FFC was so in love with the script because it was basically about him. Especially when he was reading Michael's lines when talking to Don Tommasino. FFC was all wrapped up in that. I didn't find it heart wrenching like how FFC was into it.
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Stanley: You want a shot? (offers liquor) Blanche: No, I rarely touch it. Stanley: There's some people that rarely touch it, but it touches them often.
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Re: FFC - Commentry
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05/15/02 07:43 PM
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Originally posted by puppeteer: Originally posted by CamillusDon: [b]I think you will find that he relates to Michaels background and the family life and times. I think that is part of the reason why many do not like GF3 because of its theme of redemption, which even Pacino didn't think was the right direction to go in GF3.
There was less of Puzo in GF3.
In the "A Look Inside" on the bonus materials disc, FFC was running the show at the script meetings...he didn't really listen to Puzo's suggestion. I know it's only snippets; therefore, I do not know the whole story behind GF3...but still.
FFC was so in love with the script because it was basically about him. Especially when he was reading Michael's lines when talking to Don Tommasino. FFC was all wrapped up in that. I didn't find it heart wrenching like how FFC was into it.[/b]BINGO! More Puzo, Less In-Movie Coppola, More listening to Pacino, a time machine, and we'd have another 5 star Godfather movie! Oh yeah, make sure Winona Ryder doesn't catch a cold this time!
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