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Re: How bout them Yankees!? #256869
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Opps, didn't read the previous posts.

Speaking of which, the Yanks are 6.5 games back from 1st place:

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              W  L  WIN%  GB
Baltimore    17  9 .654   --
Toronto      16 12 .571   2 
Boston       14 12 .538   3 
NY Yankees   11 16 .407   6.5 
Tampa Bay     9 18 .333   8.5
(edited to use "code" for readability--pl)

Re: How bout them Yankees!? #256870
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I just heard on ESPN that Steinbrener is going a different route with this team now. He has a meeting with the commisioner today and apparently wants to discuss simply buying the wins rather than having to write all of those paychecks :rolleyes:


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"You have only $200 million? Tough, find a way to win. That's your job!" Brian Cashman, Yankees GM
I love all the yankee fans having heart attacks because their team is doing bad. The team is bought, their only strategy is buying stars so no other team can get their hands on them. You've never gone through a "rebuilding" phase with your team it's always "buy more players".
I don't think we heard enough about Boston winning the world series. They went 82/86 whatever YEARS without winning yet the yankees go 25 games without a winning record and everyone is going insane. hmm maybe an 80 year W.S. drought is what yankee fans may need.

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Re: How bout them Yankees!? #256871
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Quote:
Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
I love all the yankee fans having heart attacks because their team is doing bad. The team is bought, their only strategy is buying stars so no other team can get their hands on them. You've never gone through a "rebuilding" phase with your team it's always "buy more players".
Didn't go through a rebuidling phase? Ever hear of the 1980s? How many titles did the Yankees win between 1979 and 1996. NONE! And we're the "only" team that buys players, huh? So Manny Ramirez signed with Boston for the food? And David Ortiz stays for the weather? And Matt Clement likes to be by the water? And Keith Foulke wanted to be with Johnny Damon. Oh, how about the Astros signging Roger Clemens after he "retired" in 2003? The Yankees are the "only" ones who buy players, I think not!

Quote:
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I don't think we heard enough about Boston winning the world series.

Re: How bout them Yankees!? #256872
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Quote:
Originally posted by ronnierocketAGO:
*Would Clemens REALLY want to go? He has the option to terminate any possible trade.
I think if Clemens really wanted to win another World Series before he hangs it up for good he will. He's going through exactly what Randy Johnson went through last year, a great year pitching and no record to show for it because he's getting no run support. However, Randy didn't win the Cy Young even though he deserved it. I wouldn't be surprised if Clemens has the same type of year Randy did last year, plus the same record, and still wins the Cy Young again

Re: How bout them Yankees!? #256873
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Same old Rocker

I also heard that the Yanks might go after Ken Griffey Jr., Mike Cameron, Richard Hidalgo or Juan Encarnacion. Plus the Yanks might just buyout Brown's contract and send him packing

Re: How bout them Yankees!? #256874
05/04/05 04:21 PM
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I have no problem with the Yankees strategy of "buying" players.

But like any other strategy, you still have to make the right moves, which recently the Yanks clearly have not.

--Putting 1B in the hands of Giambi and Tino this year, and not going after free agents Mientkiewicz or Delgado.

--Not going after Beltran.

--Having no fourth outfielder. Someone who can play everyday for a month or so if necesary. Sierra or Crosby don't fit that description.

--Letting Jon Lieber go.

--Signing Jaret Wright, who, in the three seasons between 2000 and 2002, appeared in only 24 major league games, compiling a 7-9 record with a 7.27 E.R.A, and has now been on the disabled list 8 times in 10 years and has never had a season in which he pitched more than 193 innings.

--Trading for Kevin Brown. Forget about giving up Jeff Weaver (altho he'd probably be an improvement over Brown).....the key player they gave up in that deal was reliever Yhency Brazoban, who last year was 6-2, 2.48 in 31 games, and this year is 1-0, 2.38 in 12 games.

No Beltran and Wright for Lieber are the keys though, I think.


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Re: How bout them Yankees!? #256875
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Quote:
Originally posted by plawrence:
--Letting Jon Lieber go.

--Signing Jaret Wright, who, in the three seasons between 2000 and 2002, appeared in only 24 major league games, compiling a 7-9 record with a 7.27 E.R.A, and has now been on the disabled list 8 times in 10 years and has never had a season in which he pitched more than 193 innings.

No Beltran and Wright for Lieber are the keys though, I think.
I agree with these points. I never really knew much about Lieber before last year but he had a pretty good postseason from what I remember. I was for trading for Johnson and signing Pavano, but I was against signed Wright. I would have given the money we gave Wright to Lieber to make him stay. I also would have signed Beltran as well. As for Brown, I was for the trade originally and he started out great last year (I think he was 9-1) before the first time he got injured in May or June of last year. Once he got injured, he's never been the same for the Yanks

Re: How bout them Yankees!? #256876
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Another lost to Tampa Bay.

Looks like someone is going to be eating some crow if this keeps up.

If you can't take a couple of games from the last place team, then who can you beat. I know Kansas City.

The Yankees playing under 400 ball.


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Re: How bout them Yankees!? #256877
05/05/05 11:53 AM
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If you listen closely you can hear the sound of the panic button being greased up (Henn, Cano, Henn, Cano, Crosby, Wang, Go-go-go).


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Re: How bout them Yankees!? #256878
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Dunno why Bubba is getting such a bad rap here on the BB. He's a fairly solid outfielder, and has more speed than Bernie. And Tino as well - his fielding skills clearly should put him at first base, and he did crank a homer last nite...that already makes him 100% better than Gi-I wanna go home-ambi.



Re: How bout them Yankees!? #256879
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What about them Yankees?


Hey, how's it going?
Re: How bout them Yankees!? #256880
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Who the hell is pitching tonight?

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Re: How bout them Yankees!? #256881
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Quote:
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Who the hell is pitching tonight?

DS
Wang....And he's already down 3-0 in the 3rd.

Re: How bout them Yankees!? #256882
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YANKEES ARE BEAT UP ON BY TAMPA BAY AGAIN!


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Re: How bout them Yankees!? #256883
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If George's horse loses tomorrow, heads will start rolling in the Yankee dugout by Monday.

Re: How bout them Yankees!? #256884
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Quote:
Originally posted by Just Lou:
If George's horse loses tomorrow, heads will start rolling in the Yankee dugout by Monday.
That reminds me of the story about a horse that tried out for the Yankees:

A horse came onto the field during a workout and walked over to Joe Torre. Torre looked up and was shocked to see this. He yelled out, "What the hell is this about?". The horse replied, "I'd like to try out for the team. Torre laughed and said, "Thats ridiculous, a horse can't play baseball". The horse was determined to get a chance to try out and replied, "I'm a great ballplayer". Torre was in a light-hearted mood and was up for a laugh so he allowed the horse to take a few swings.

The horse hit the first pitch out of the park into the left field stands. Torre was astounded and yelled out to Randy Johnson on the mound that he should throw some heat. The horse knocked it into the second deck. Torre was now totally flabbergasted. He yelled to the horse, "OK, run the next one out".

The horse swung at the next pitch and it sailed over Matsui's head, rolling up to the wall in front of the monuments. Matsui ran the ball down, turned, and threw the horse out at first base.

Torre went jogging up to the horse and screamed that he had never seen such hitting like that but couldn't believe that the horse was thrown out at first base.

The horse replied, "Hell, if I could run I'd be in the Kentucky Derby".

:rolleyes:


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Re: How bout them Yankees!? #256886
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Quote:
Originally posted by Freddie C.:
I bet the Yankees wish that they had kept Jon Lieber. He's been the one bright spot for my Phillies this year (5-1, 2.57 ERA)
Dumb move letting him go, and signing Wright.

Re: How bout them Yankees!? #256887
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Quote:
Originally posted by plawrence:
--Letting Jon Lieber go.
He's been the one bright spot for my Phillies this year (5-1, 2.57 ERA)


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Re: How bout them Yankees!? #256888
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Though my beloved Mets arent doing so well themselves, the Yanks are in a lower standing in thier devision. I could sing!


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Re: How bout them Yankees!? #256889
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Two wins in a row! Don't want to jinx it, but could this be the turn-around we've been hoping for? Please, oh, please, oh please!


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Re: How bout them Yankees!? #256890
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Don't start the band up just yet. They were playing Oakland. A team that is almost as bad.

Last week they were beaten by Tampa Bay. And Tampa spanked them.


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Re: How bout them Yankees!? #256891
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What a difference starting pitching makes.

If Mussina and Brown continue to pitch well, and Johnson is 75% of what he was last year if they can find one more competent starter, they might be OK.

Baltimore will come back to the pack a bit, Boston (with Schilling and Wells out) doesn't look as strong as they were last year, and the rest of the division is weak.

The key is Brown and getting one more decent starter.


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Re: How bout them Yankees!? #256892
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Another MC prediction.

Time Unknown, but Ricky Henderson will join the Yankees in left field. Womack back to 2nd base. Ricky's first game back at the Stadium will be a sellout.


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Re: How bout them Yankees!? #256893
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Time for our weekly update.

Code:
		MC Predicts	5/8/2005
	        W	L	W	L
Randy Johnson	9	8	2	2
Mike Mussina	14	7	3	2
Kevin Brown	1	3	1	4
Carl Pavano	16	10	2	2
Jaret Wright	10	11	2	2
	        50	39	10	12
				
Bullpen/Others	32	41	3	7
				
  Totals	82	80	13	19
  
Kevy got his win...finally. Moose looked good.

How are some of those "last year's pitchers" doin.

Jose Contreras - White Sox 1-0, 2.60 era
El Duque - White Sox 4-1, 2.92
Jon Lieber - Phillies 5-1, 2.57
Javier Vazquez - D'backs 4-2, 4.70


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Re: How bout them Yankees!? #256894
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3 wins in a row, not too shabby. Johnson went 8 strong and they pulled out the win with Womack knocking in the go ahead run. We'll take whatever we can get

Re: How bout them Yankees!? #256895
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Looks like Brown had a good outing, hopefully it continues and this is the turning point that we need. I won't jinx it but it's good to see the Yanks win 3 straight (plus A-Rod seems to be doing well)

Re: How bout them Yankees!? #256896
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This will be the start if there is to be one. After all they get to play Seattle today and Wednesday and then Oakland Friday and Saturday.
The last two place teams in the west.

If they can't win against these teams, what is going to happen when the get to play against Baltimore or Chicago, who are playing good solid ball.


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Re: How bout them Yankees!? #256897
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Well, they're winning 7-2 against Seattle right now. Yay!!


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Re: How bout them Yankees!? #256898
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Make it 4 in a row

Re: How bout them Yankees!? #256899
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So far, Chien Ming Wang seems to be the Lieber-esque stater this year. That is, he is a good pitcher who doesn't have overpowering stuff, but can get ground outs and popups. Hopefully, Wang can stay up with the big club and continue to be consistent.

Matsui also needs to get out of his slump, it's clearly the worst of his career. But when he's back, it will be nice.

Robinson "Crusoe" Cano has some defensive pop, and played well last nite. Seems to be as good of a prospect as projected.

Gi-"Go down to Columbus"-ambi should go down to the Clippers so we have another roster spot. Goodness knows we have to have another minor leaguer who can at least hit the ball 1-100. :p

Hopefully, this little rally the Yanks have built up is a good sign that the team chemistry is growing and the ship is back on course. Not jumping the gun, though.

And BTW...again, why was everybody so down on Tino's hitting ability except for me? Clearly, I think he's proven his critics wrong. We have a superior first baseman in Tino, and I have no idea why George Steinbrenner doesn't send Giambi to the same glue factory Bellamy Road will be heading to.



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