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Re: How bout them Yankees!? #257656
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Quite possibly!

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A-Rod MVP
Mariano Rivera CY
Joe Torre Manager??

A full Yankee sweep? :p
Don't forget about Giambi as comeback player of the year And yes I already know the arguments that he shouldn't be considered for the award for his steroid use, but let's face it, how many of you people thought he'd have the kinda of season he's having right now!? NONE! .271 avg, 32 HRs, 87 RBIs

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My question is, we can't test for Human Growth hormones, for which I wonder if some MLB players do continue to use it.

However, Irish is right. I expected Giambi to be total expensive dead-weight...and hes come up to the plate when the rest of the team was sluggish.

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I've been disappointed and surprised at Sheffield this year. I mean, he had an MVP type year last year while playing hurt most of the season and this year he was healthier and didn't do as good (I know you can't expect him to have a perfect season every year) but A-Rod really seems to be the heart of that lineup this year

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Indeed. While Sheffield has either been mediocre or bitching at the management(or usually both), or Jeter isn't being Jeter, or better yet guys like Ruben Sierra and Bernie Williams aren't delivering the bacon home...really, the only consistently solid/good players in the lineup I've seen have been your 2005 AL MVP A-Rod, Jason Giambi, and the underrated Hideki Matsui.

Re: How bout them Yankees!? #257661
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Yanks better sign Matsui the second the season's over. Let's not make the many boston mistakes of letting our good players good before there times expired. I've been hearing a lot of talk about Johnny Damon not coming back next year, but seriously, how many think he's not? It's all talk and unfortunately, I don't think boston is that dumb to let him walk away. As for everyone b*tching about how they let Lowe and Pedro go. Lowe will finish the year 12-15 with a 3.61 ERA in the NL (not a good win-loss record) while Pedro went 15-8 with a 2.82 ERA. I expected Pedro's numbers to be much better in the NL this year than they were in the AL last year

Re: How bout them Yankees!? #257662
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Quote:
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I expected Pedro's numbers to be much better in the NL this year than they were in the AL last year
They might have been if the Mets backed him up with some more offense when he pitched.


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Re: How bout them Yankees!? #257663
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It's the same old story, same old song and dance as Aerosmith once said. Lack of run support hurt Randy Johnson from winning the NL Cy Young Award last year. Lack of run support hurt Roger Clemens this year (although he'll still probably win the Cy Young AGAIN this year unless Willis was more convincing).

Re: How bout them Yankees!? #257664
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Negative, no way Clemens will win the NL Cy Young. He only has 13 wins, which is why he won't win his 8th award.

The race is between Carpenter and Willis, and compelling arguments can be made for both...

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What about the AL ronnie? Think Mo should win it or Colon from Anaheim?

Re: How bout them Yankees!? #257666
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Ya I think Rivera should win it, but he won't.

Like Ortiz, Rivera will be biased against by voters because he is a CLOSER, not a STARTING pitcher.

Unfair? Totally...then again, there is bias against Ortiz because simply he is a DH.

But Rivera should win it, since he was the only consistently good pitcher on the Yankees' bullpen methinks....future Hall of Famer.

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Pitching for the Yanks for the first 4 games are as followed:

Game 1 - Moose
Game 2 - Wang
Game 3 - Unit
Game 4 - Chacon

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Food for thought and voting:

CY Young Relievers:
American League
Sparky Lyle, 1977 (26 saves, 13-7)
Rollie Finger, 1981 (28 saves, also MVP)
Willie Hernandez, 1984 (also MVP)
Dennis Eckersley, 1992 (51 saves, also MVP)

National League
Bruce Sutter, 1979
Steve Bedrosian, 1987
Mark Davis, 1989
Eric Gagne, 2003

This year in the AL, Franciso Rodriguez has more saves than Mariano, 45 to 43, but the ERAs are 2.67 to 1.38.

The only DH to win the MVP was Don Baylor in 1979
186 Hits
139 RBIs
71 BBs
11 HBP
36 HRs
.296 BA
.371 OBP
.530 SLG
120 Runs

Of course these awards are relative to the performance of other players that year.


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A Yankee moment yesterday.

It was 12:30 pm and I had a meeting in uptown NY City. It was a nice day, so I walked from my office on W.36th St. to Grand Central to take the 4 - 5 train. I cut through Bryant Park (nice sights for a warm day) and there to my surprise was a Yankee rally. There was a stage set up and a few hundred people gathered on the lawn. I recognized the announcers voice, but couldn't immediately place it. It was Chris Carlin, a sports announcer on WFAN radio. On stage with him was Don Larsen, Mickey Rivers, Jim Leyritz and another player whose name I didn't hear. I was too far back to recognize him. Only in New York.


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Re: How bout them Yankees!? #257670
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To all you Yankees fans out there, is it true that whenever the team loses at home at Yankee Stadium, the Frank Sinatra version of "New York, New York" plays...and when they lose, the Liza Minneli version is played?

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Code:
 	     MC Predicts	Actual			
	        W    L	%	W	L	%
Randy Johnson	9    8	0.529	17	8	0.680
Mike Mussina	14   7	0.667	13	8	0.619
Kevin Brown	1    3	0.250	4	7	0.364
Carl Pavano	16   10	0.615	4	6	0.400
Jaret Wright	10   11	0.476	5	5	0.500
Total	        50   39	0.562	43	34	0.558
						
Bullpen/Others	32   41		52	33	
						
Totals	        82   80		95	67	
 
Well here is the year end against my prediciton. Thank God for the Yankee "others". There were 27 pitchers on their roster this year. The pitchers they started the year with who were listed as "Starters" ended up with 77 game decisions, I predicted 89. I wonder how the other teams fair. Pavano and Wright were huge busts. Brown lasted longer than I thought. The Unit surprised me. I really thought he would have broken down.

My other predictions didn't pan out, but that was on purpose because I can't predict shit, which is why I don't gamble.

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 82-80, miss playoffs									

Joe Torre fired at the All Star break when the team is under .500									

...oh yeah Bosox finish behind the Yankees at 79-83. Some Florida team wins the division, Orioles 2nd. 
 


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Re: How bout them Yankees!? #257672
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My other predictions didn't pan out, but that was on purpose because I can't predict shit, which is why I don't gamble.

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...oh yeah Bosox finish behind the Yankees at 79-83. Some Florida team wins the division, Orioles 2nd. 
 
Yeah I thought those predictions were a little harsh and laughable. I'm so happy because tonight I don't have to work and I plan on sitting my fat a$$ down and watch the Yanks going for 2 in Anaheim!

Re: How bout them Yankees!? #257673
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Congrats to Jason Giambi on officially winning the AL Comeback Player of the Year Award!

Re: How bout them Yankees!? #257674
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Good for Jason. He had a lot of demons to overcome. His story would be good for teens who are on the road to roids.


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Re: How bout them Yankees!? #257675
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Jason is a bum. He cheated and should not have gotten that award. By useing Steroids he hurt himself.

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Re: How bout them Yankees!? #257676
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Personally, I'm very happy for Giambi, and congrats to Joe Torre for standing by him. That's one of the reasons that Joe Torre is so loved by his players. When everyone else was saying that the Yankees should dump him, Joe stood quietly by Giambi. One of my favorite moments in baseball was when Giambi hit a game-winning home run. Joe Torre just reached out, hugged him and gave him a kiss on the cheek.

I think that Giambi had a very, very tough road, and I think he traveled it bravely, and with class. Just look at the way Palmeiro has handled his "scandal" in comparison.


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Re: How bout them Yankees!? #257677
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Griffey won the award for the NL so congrats to him as well. I agree with everything you said Babe about Torre. I can't see how or WHY anyone would ever print anything about the Yanks firing him. How could they!?

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Well it wasn't exacly the "perfect" year we were hoping for in 2005, Yankee fans. See you all next year!

Re: How bout them Yankees!? #257679
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WOO HOO the Yanks resigned Matsui to a 4 year deal yesterday. Now they can focus on the bullpen and a centerfielder

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Bullpen??

Let's try fixing the pathetic starting pitching. Bullpen is all Cy Youngsters compared to the starters... :rolleyes:



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They picked up the option on Sturtze, and wanna resign Gordon and sign BJ Ryan. Starting pitching should be fine is everyone stays healthy. I'd go with Johnson, Moose, Wang, Chacon, and Pavano with Small in the bullpen as middle relief

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Sorry, but that is not a Championship starting rotation... But, if they are all healthy ( for once! ) then I'll take it....!



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Well that pitching staff at least got them into the playoffs. Plus, there aren't many good free agent pitchers out there except Roger Clemens and A.J. Burnett from what I've heard. Also, would you rather have Kevin Brown or Jaret Wright?

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Hindsight being 20/20, we never should've let Roger or Andy go. But if Randy steps up, to what he was, and, the others get back to their ace forms, then sure, we have a chance... but NY is a problem for a lot of people (see: Knoblockhead, Fielder, C*nsaco, etc...)



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Well technically we never "let" Roger go, he quit and then came right back. Andy went sure. But I do agree, Randy should have a better 2nd year. I think he tried to do too much just like A-Rod did in his first year and look he just won the AL MVP. I think he'll be more comfortable this year plus he was coming back to the AL from being in the NL for the past 7 seasons. But again, I'm excited to see the rotation this year with Chacon, Wang added to Moose, Pavano and Unit.

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