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Re: How bout them Yankees!?
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04/21/06 07:14 PM
04/21/06 07:14 PM
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Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,762 Anytown, USA
goombah
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Originally posted by fathersson: No way, if you love the game you have to love it from the very first pitch. You love every play and every out, of every game. Only pussies show up at the end of the year and start screaming how much they love their team after they see them on top. You have to be like Irishman here. He loves the Yankees so much that people start to hate him for the way he locks in on the Yankees and doesn't let go. He throws his bull all around and doesn't back down when people bust his balls. Now that is a FAN. Not at all what I said. Nowhere did I say you don't root for your team all year. But teams are going to win 60 & lose 60 games. It's what they do with the other 40 that determines their success or failure. Last year all the Yankee fans were gripping b/c of the lousy start they had. The season is a marathon, not a sprint. The team still made it to the playoffs. Many insignificant things happen in April. Does anyone honestly think that dolt from Detroit will end up leading the league in HRs just b/c he has 9 so far this April? With the exception of this season, Jim Thome usually has horrible Aprils. Same with Manny Ramirez. By the same token, September isn't a true barometer since rosters are expanded to 40 players. Anybody remember that "legend" Shane Spencer be annointed just for hitting some HRs in meaningless September games?
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Re: How bout them Yankees!?
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04/21/06 11:16 PM
04/21/06 11:16 PM
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Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,190 Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Don Jasani
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Hey TonyWillLive, you taking a little breather while the adults are talking, little buddy? Can I get you any thing, coffee, tea, red bull, beer, coke/pepsi, milk and freakin cookies?! Cuz you look a little dry? What oh what could be the reason?!
GO BLUE JAYS!
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Re: How bout them Yankees!?
#257941
04/24/06 10:42 PM
04/24/06 10:42 PM
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Double-J
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Originally posted by TonyWillLive: I disagree he wouldn't have signed Damon. I think if you look at the Yankees and the Red Sox from 2003 to now and you will see that the Red Sox are planning for the future and the Yankees aren't. Its clear to me that it seems for now the Sox are in great position for 5 years and the Yankees are gonna have to play a game of wait and see in whos availiable in the off season. Why would you Yankee fans be worried though, right? Not planning for the future? I guess you haven't heard of Chien-Ming Wang, Jeff Karstens, J. Brent Cox, Matt Smith, Eric Duncan, Phil Hughes, Melky Cabrera, Kevin Thompson, and the slew of other minor leaguers who are coming up through the Yankees farm system (Wang who is obviously with the team now, Smith recently called up). I'm not worried, especially if we can get Clemens back for the mid-season haul. And no, Clemens will not return to Boston, a.) because he didn't like the treatment he received when he returned there from the asshole fans and b.) because he still has ties to New York or Houston, whereas in Boston, the players he was with are long gone. I find it interesting that a few months ago, Boston fans hung their heads and sang "woe is me" when Epstein left, Damon was gone (conveniently going from team leader to a "aging center fielder"), and the only guys worth mentioning were Ortiz, Varitek, and Manny Ramirez. Yet, now you have "depth." Quite fascinating. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens with the mohawk closer and the rest of the Red Sox this year.
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Re: How bout them Yankees!?
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04/25/06 05:47 AM
04/25/06 05:47 AM
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plawrence
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Originally posted by Double-J: Not planning for the future? I guess you haven't heard of Chien-Ming Wang, Jeff Karstens, J. Brent Cox, Matt Smith, Eric Duncan, Phil Hughes, Melky Cabrera, Kevin Thompson, and the slew of other minor leaguers who are coming up through the Yankees farm system (Wang who is obviously with the team now, Smith recently called up).
Every ML team has "a slew of minor leaguers" working their way through the system. The question is, "How good are these guys?" Unless Wang shows a dramatic improvement, I don't see him as anything more than a #3 or #4 starter, certainly not the type of 16-18 game winner you build a pennant-winning pitching staff around. We've been hearing about Duncan, the Yanks top hitting prospect, since they made him their #1 pick in 2003, but so far he hasn't done much to justify the hype. Minor league statistics have proven time and again to be quite reliable indicators of a player's future ML performance, and Duncan's have been nothing special. Two years ago in A ball, he hit .258 with 16 homers and 131 strikeouts in 461 ABs. Last year, in AA, it was .235 with 19 homers and 136 K's in 451 ABs. So far at AAA Columbus this year, he's at .250, with no homers in 17 games. Thompson is hitting .284 this year at Columbus, and Karstens is 0-2 for the Clippers so far, with an 8.18 E.R.A. Hughes looked like a real prospect until he hurt his arm last year, and I'm not sure if he's back in action yet this season or not. Only Cabrera, hitting .338 at Columbus, and Smih, look like tyhe might be ready for the majors now.
"Difficult....not impossible"
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Re: How bout them Yankees!?
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04/25/06 11:46 PM
04/25/06 11:46 PM
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plawrence
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Originally posted by TonyWillLive: if the Yanks do trade Cano..... who do they replace (him) with? I don't see the Yanks trading Cano unless they get back a starting pitcher along the quality lines of what Carl Pavano was supposed to be. I could even see Cano and a top prospect maybe going to Florida for Willis. Replacing Cano is easy. The Yankees don't need offense from 2B, and there are plenty of minor league second basemen who can field as well as Cano can (or better) and hit maybe .240 or so.
"Difficult....not impossible"
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Re: How bout them Yankees!?
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04/26/06 12:07 AM
04/26/06 12:07 AM
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Posts: 73,764 The Villa Quatro
Irishman12
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Originally posted by plawrence: [quote]Originally posted by TonyWillLive: [b] if the Yanks do trade Cano..... who do they replace (him) with? I don't see the Yanks trading Cano unless they get back a starting pitcher along the quality lines of what Carl Pavano was supposed to be. I could even see Cano and a top prospect maybe going to Florida for Willis. Replacing Cano is easy. The Yankees don't need offense from 2B, and there are plenty of minor league second basemen who can field as well as Cano can (or better) and hit maybe .240 or so. [/b][/quote]Good point plaw. They could trade him for the 24-year-old Dontrelle Willis (who I'd love to see in pinstripes). As for Cano, he is VERY replacable. Alfonso Soriano said before the season began, he'd be willing to DH or even play the outfield (yes, willingly) just to play for the Yanks again
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Re: How bout them Yankees!?
#257954
04/28/06 03:54 PM
04/28/06 03:54 PM
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Posts: 8,224 New Jersey
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Hey, listen...like John Sterling says at some point during almost every game.... 'You CAN'T predict baseball!' Apple
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
- THOMAS JEFFERSON
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