"EXACTLY! That's 1 of the reasons why I hate Pudge Rodriguez so much. It's 1 regular season game. He comes around 3rd base with his arm in the air acting like he just won game 7 of the World Series. Hey loser, it's ONE game. Act like a professional and like you've been there before you immature, classless, piece of sh*t! "

The question is, if he was a Yankee, would you be so angry, or dismiss such a rant by someone else as..."joyful excitement".

Besides, I'm sure you're really still reeling from 2003. :p

Why don't you say that about your fucking Yankees? Or Derek Jeter, when he jumps into the stands for some trivial fucking out like it's game 7 of the ALCS, or Game 6 of the World Series... :rolleyes:

But you see there in lies the difference, I don't have to answer that because the Yankees don't do that. They are a professional and classy organization.


MAN, you're still on about 2003!? Feel free to jump into 2006 anytime there ronnie. What have the Marlins done for you lately? I think someone's just upset there team is currently 18-34 (14 games outta first place)

Ummm, let's see. Because he was hustling to make an out. You're trying to compare apples and oranges. Jeter was trying to make an out while Pudge was just running around the bases (there wasn't even a throw home)

Of course the Marlins are lousy right now, but yet you yourself still whine about what Pudge did in what now officially is the "past". How then, according to your logic you put forth, aren't you a crybaby that can't get over it as well? Hey don't get mad, its a question.

Besides, true dedicated legion fans of clubs don't get over a bitter defeat in the playoffs quite so easily, like 2003 or the ALCS in 2004. I don't believe you brushing such shit aside, so either you're not a real fan, or you're in denial. I don't which one, so it doesn't affect me. Trust me, you think Braves fans can't stand that the Braves, despite how many consecutive division titles, were only able to win one title during that span? Really, its a pisser.

A pisser as well for us Marlins fans to see our franchise constantly selling off players like a glorified yard sale every few years. I understand the logic of it, but it still pisses me off.

Anyway Irish, you never answered my original question. You say that it can't happen with the Yankees, but pretend for a moment that Gary Sheffield proceeded to do the same act as Pudge did, and of course doing it while wearing a Yankees uniform? Would you slam him for being an overpaid jerk like you did to Pudge, or would you excuse it?

As a man, I assume you would criticize him, possibly quite rightly to do so. Right?

I'm not getting mad. Here's where I draw the line, what happened was recent news. The game ended 2 minutes before my post. So if you consider that old news, then yes you got me. I wasn't on the ball and couldn't post immediately upon seeing Pudge do it. My fault. However, I also draw the line when a season (or 2 full seasons now) have past since your team won. You don't hear me hollering about the Yankees winning the Series in 1996 do you? And do you know why? It's 10 years ago amigo.


I am over the defeat in 2003 just like I've over the defeat in 2002 when the Yanks lost to the Angels. I still hate Josh Beckett (so in a sense you could say I haven't COMPLETELY gotten over it). But you harp on that day like it's the blackest in Yankee history. Trust me, the 2001 Series and 2004 ALCS are 2 series that I'm not completely over either and they hurt (at least me) MUCH MUCH MORE than the Marlins fluke win.

If we could put the shoe on the other foot and it was Gary coming around 3rd base acting like an idiot than yes I would bash him too. I love watching the man play and respect the sh*t out of him. However, he's been in the game long enough where he should be acting like a professional too and that's not the kind of thing I'd like to see a Yankee player doing. Another reason why I hate "K-Rod" (the closer for the Angels) so much. After a strike out, I can understand a fist pump or sometype of satisfied reaction. But to constantly come in, pump your fist as hard as you can, yelling your head off is immaute (I'm sorry but it is). How many times have you seen Mariano do that in the regular season? (Playoffs excluded because the playoffs are a different atmosphere altogether).

I'm just glad to see that you are indeed human, like the rest of us.

As for 2003, ya it was a fluke...as was 1997.

I never said I wasn't human like everyone else. I think a misconcerption a lot of people have about Yankee fans (or at least me), and I'm quoting fathersson here also, is that we're "arrogant." I wouldn't consider myself an arrogant fan. I would consider myself knowledgeable and confident in my team (which may come off as being aarogant, I'm not sure). But that's just one thing that pisses me off is that people feel Yankee fans are arrogant. Don't misplace arrogance for confidence!


See, NOW you're starting to see the pattern :p

But you see there in lies the difference, I don't have to answer that because the Yankees don't do that. They are a professional and classy organization.[/b][/quote]Oh kiss my fucking ass. You are such a hypocrite. The Yankees do celebrate, don't act like they don't. EVERYONE CELEBRATES WHEN SCORING A GAME WINNING RUN. EVERY TEAM. So don't take a 'holier than thou' attitude with the Yankees because that is BULLSHIT to the third degree.

Oh, and you are obviously still bitter about getting your asses kicked all over Yankee Stadium, because every so often when someone mentions the Marlins, you say "Oh, I f'n hate the Marlins" or some other crap like that. Why so much hate against a 100 loss team? Bitterness. You are obviously living in 2003, otherwise you probably, as a sensible baseball fan, would not hold a ridiculous grudge against a 100 loss baseball team filled with minor leaguers.

Wow, I love all this detailed, thoughtful, stat/fact filled argument about baseball! :rolleyes: :p

Back to reality...Farnsworth is a huge liability, but I don't think we could've kept Gordon, as I understood he wanted to pursue other options (and did so). Let's just hope Octavio Dotel comes back strong from his surgery and can deliver as a solid set-up man.

Unfortunatley, my good man, bitterness is not a stat.

Sure every team celebrates when scoring a game winning run. My point is I felt it was a bit excessive with the Tigers the other night. Looks like it didn't do them any good since they lost last night. Also, would we even be having this discussion if it didn't involve Pudge "I'm a former Marlin" Rodriguez?

Believe what you want to my friend

You brought it up.

Yes I did but what I'm saying is you seem to be backing Pudge up pretty well but have yet to give any thoughts on my comments about K-Rod

I agree with you on K-Rod. That is a bit excessive. Pumping your fist after every K is excessive, but my earlier point stands.

Man, we all know the Yanks will win the AL East...again...so if anything, I don't honestly care about baseball until at least August.

I'm glad we could at least agree that some celebration is excessive

Geez, now Scott Proctor is on the list after giving up 3 runs in the 8th Glad Damon hit the homer in the 10th and Wang could close it out. The Yanks take another series (and this one without A-Rod)

Yanks take 7 of their last 8, and move into first place in the AL East, with a roster devoid of Sheffield and Matsui, backups and young kids, and a sick A-Rod.

AND Giambi was sick yesterday too and missed the game

Small is a BIG P.O.S. :rolleyes:

I don't know what's happened to him since last year. He was unbelievable last year at 10-0. Now he looks like he wants to fill Kevin Brown's shoes

Why the fuck did they take the kid Smith out -- who was doing great, 1.1 scoreless innings -- to put that other POS Erikson in, now it's 10-0 in the 5th!!

At least Kevin Thompson (and the aforementioned Smith) had good days. I wouldn't get super upset about the loss, considering they've won 7 out of their last 9.

Chacon should come off the DL today (he went on the 21st of May), so Small will go back to the bullpen (or sent down to Columbus). I don't really know what happened to Small, other than players hadn't seen him before. Now they obviously have scouted him and know what to expect. Perhaps he's hiding an injury?

Either way, Chacon will be back in the rotation.

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Also, for further updates on those "shitty" Yankees prospects:

Mike and the Mad Dog update just said that Jeter isn't in the lineup tonight. Looks like we'll see Cairo at SS...

F*CK!

Hey, I'm a big Jeter fan, but Cairo did an excellent job last week filling in for him.

A-Rod, Giambi and Mo playing tonight?

Moose strikes out the side including Ortiz AND Ramirez