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Re: How bout them Yankees!?
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07/07/06 01:17 PM
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plawrence
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I gotta give a lot of credit to Torre for this season.
He has them hanign' in there.
A lot of teams would have quit by now.
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Re: How bout them Yankees!?
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07/14/06 09:06 AM
07/14/06 09:06 AM
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Yanks Set to Sign Ponson When I first saw this last night on the ESPN newswire, I nearly shit myself. I thought we actually traded for Ponson. Then I saw that we are simply going to sign him, and St. Louis is still responsible for his league-minimum salary. Oh well. I suppose we could give him a try, since Chacon has been a shell of his 2005 year and we could use a 5th starter. Sir Sidney will hopefully leave his booze at home lest he be ridiculed even further by Yankee fans. :p --- On trade rumor notes, I see that the Yankees might have Melky as one of their big potential trade baits before the deadline. I think that catch he made on 6/6/06 was pretty nuts, and has solidified him as at least a Yankee bench player. BTW - Ruben Sierra was just made a free agent. I'd love to see him back in pinstripes again, even if he isn't very consistent.
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Re: How bout them Yankees!?
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07/14/06 11:03 AM
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plawrence
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The article I read said the Yanks were paying him $150,00 for the rest of the season, the pro-rated portion of the league minimum, and the Cards were paying off the remainder of his contract.
Of course with the Yankees, money is not the issue.
He's certainly capable of helping the team, altho you have to wonder if he has anything left after failing with a good team like St. Louis.
Maybe he'll be this year's Small or Chacon.
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Re: How bout them Yankees!?
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07/14/06 11:17 PM
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Nope, the Yanks are only 1.5 games out my friend -Man Beckett got rocked by Oakland (4 1/3 innings, 8 hits, 7 runs, 4 BB, 3 SO. 11-5 with a 5.12 ERA) -Looks like Clemens has been a good investment for Houston (5 innings, 7 hits, 2 runs, 0 BB, 7 SO. 1-3 with a 2.96 ERA). Boy, they just can't seem to win with Rocket on the mound. -And YES, leave it to the Yanks to end Contreras's winning streak! 
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Re: How bout them Yankees!?
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07/15/06 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by Irishman12: -Looks like Clemens has been a good investment for Houston (5 innings, 7 hits, 2 runs, 0 BB, 7 SO. 1-3 with a 2.96 ERA). Boy, they just can't seem to win with Rocket on the mound. Yeah, maybe if the Ass-tros could hit the ball, he'd have some more wins. :p Should'a came to New York... 
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Re: How bout them Yankees!?
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07/19/06 11:56 AM
07/19/06 11:56 AM
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Don Alessandrio
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yankees would be crazy to trade A-Rod. I am not a Yankee fan nor do I follow the Yankee organization. (well no more than what Espn and national sports radio covers, which is a lot) But as an outsider I think that the Yankees have just come back down to earth. They were so dominant in the late 90's and early 2000's. I think some of that was due to luck and maybe some over achieving of players like Chuck Knoblough(Sp?), Scott Brosius, Ricky Ledee. BUt they were still the best team in MLB for a good 6 years straight. But the Yankees are still highly competitive. I laugh at talk radio when they say the Yankees are done and won't make the playoffs.
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Re: How bout them Yankees!?
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07/19/06 12:20 PM
07/19/06 12:20 PM
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Oh yeah, he absolutely sucks. He was only the AL MVP last year. He was also the MVP in 2003, and has won the Golden Glove and Silver Slugger awards. He ranks 10th in the AL in runs this year, and 8th in walks. He's hit 30+ (averaging in at 42.2) in 9 out of his 10 full seasons as a starter. His career average is over .300. :rolleyes: God, I hate these Yankee fans who will boo A-Rod when he's down and then hail him as the savior when he hits a grand slam. It's really annoying. Seriously, you boobirds ruin baseball for the rest of us. I'm the first to admit that I don't have much confidence in Alex right now, and its obvious he doesn't have it in himself either. He's still a better-than-average (if not great) fielding third baseman, who needs to stop mixing in ordinary errors with his spectacular plays. And his bat has power, unfortunately he has psyched himself out. Certainly I get angry when he swings at a bad pitch, and his playoff stats with the Yankees (thus far) have been borderline dismal. I'd still rather have A-Rod at 3rd and Cano at second than some fill-in 3B and Soriano still at second. Soriano is a great talent, no doubt, but we don't need his prima donna attitude nor his services at 2B, his natural position. Robison Cano has been doing an All-Star job at second, and Alex has to turn his season around. He's still, after all, doing better than Giambi was a couple of years ago, when he stopped juic...err...sick with a virus and had a tumor. Damon has done a great job as a Yankee, and I will admit to being one of his detractors when we signed him. But his transfer can be rationalized with a couple of keynotes - keep in mind though that as a divisional rival, Damon saw quite a bit more action at Yankee Stadium in CF than A-Rod, as a Mariner or Ranger, ever saw in the infield here. Secondly, A-Rod is still adjusting to 3B, which is not his natural position. The hot corner has been graced by few who can rise to the level of greatness that has been seen from Mike Schmidt, Cal Ripken, or Scott Brosius. Brosius left big shoes to fill, and Robin Ventura/Aaron Boone/etc. were certainly not the same caliber as A-Rod. Personally, as I've said, A-Rod is slumping and having a bad A-Rod year, no doubt. But he's still got 20 homeruns, and can make some spectacular plays at 3B. Sure, I'd love to see him turn it around - you're right, he does tend to choke in the clutch, no doubt (though I've seen him hit HR's and GS's as well, which we've conveniently neglected). But I'd rather see the Yankees with him than without him. Originally posted by Irishman12: And of course A-Rod strikes out when it counts the most. I have been thinking these past few days, we should probably trade him. We could get A LOT in return (especially pitching). I'd send him to St. Louis for Pujols or Florida for Dontrelle just to name a few players Again, I'm sorry to be so harsh on you I12, but you've hit a nerve. What makes you think that A-Rod (who I believe has a no-trade clause anyways) would want to go to the Marlins, or that the Marlins, who have been getting rid of high-priced talent like you've drank too much and have to piss, would never, ever take on A-Rod's contract. Secondly, as long as Scott Rolen is in the picture in St. Louis at 3B, the Cards would never give up their big-name meal ticket Pujols at first. And what the hell would we do with Giambi then? Move him to third? :rolleyes: "The artist currently known as A-Rod's athletic and moral support," Double-J
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Re: How bout them Yankees!?
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07/19/06 01:49 PM
07/19/06 01:49 PM
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Now, now, DJ, don't get me wrong. I definitely am not one of those who would boo ARod. First of all, I believe that it hurts him mentally when he's booed, and as a Yankee fan, I want him to do well. Secondly, I think he's still a great player. My point was, I just don't see the huge gain we made by getting him. He's played well at third, which is why I believe he deserved the MVP award over Ortiz, as great a player as he is, because he didn't play a position. ARod had to play well offensively AND defensively, which IMO, made him more deserving. I don't believe for a minute that ARod should be traded. I just think that he's never settled comfortably into his pinstripes. He also has not proven himself as a player that can be counted on in a clutch situation. How many times have Jeter or Bernie come through in the clutch? And how many times has ARod?
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Re: How bout them Yankees!?
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07/19/06 02:01 PM
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plawrence
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Originally posted by Irishman12: And of course A-Rod strikes out when it counts the most. I have been thinking these past few days, we should probably trade him. We could get A LOT in return (especially pitching). I'd send him to St. Louis for Pujols or Florida for Dontrelle just to name a few players St Louis wouldn't make that deal in a million years - Pujols is five years younger and his best years are probably ahead of him. A Rod's best years are probably behind him, and Pujols is a better player already. Florida would never want A Rod's contract. AAMOF, with his contract he's just about un-tradeable.
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Re: How bout them Yankees!?
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07/19/06 02:09 PM
07/19/06 02:09 PM
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plawrence
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Originally posted by Don Alessandrio: (The Yanks) were so dominant in the late 90's and early 2000's. I think some of that was due to luck and maybe some over achieving of players like Chuck Knoblough(Sp?), Scott Brosius, Ricky Ledee. Brosius was an over-achiever, but Knoblauch and Ledee definitely under-achieved for the Yankees, and neither player was a key guy in their championship seasons. The Yankees key guys when they were winning championships were Jeter, Martinez, Posada, O'Neill, Pettitte, and Rivera.
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Re: How bout them Yankees!?
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07/19/06 02:46 PM
07/19/06 02:46 PM
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Don Alessandrio
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true neither were the stars but in order for a team to win a championship usually it comes down to the supporting cast not srewing up or having career years.
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