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Re: How bout them Yankees!? #258406
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So if the carry 14 position players - which it looks like they will, that leaves Sidney Ponson as their 6th reliever.

I don't know if they're waiting for Dotel (how much longer can they wait?), or have something else in mind to replace Ponson in the pen.
As I posted, Dotel is *almost* ready. But it looks like they plan to keep Ponson as the LR, which is fine...they could send Nick Green down to AAA to make room.



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They were carrying 7 relievers most of the season and 13 position players.

Depending on how they use their bullpens and how long they expect their starters to go, everyone carries either 11 or 12 pitchers these days.

Lidle seems to be a guy that can go 6 or 7 if he has halfway decent stuff on a given day, so if Torre figures that the only "5 inning pitcher" he has is Wright, maybe he can get by with only 6 relievers.

And since the bench is much stronger now, it definitely could be worth the trade-off.

But they still have to find a 6th reliever to replace Ponson, who seems to no longer have a role.


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So wait, St. Louis wanted to put Ponson in the bullpen, he didn't want to go and then he got traded? Now he's with the Yankees and they want to put him in the bullpen too and now he's fine with it?

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When you play for the Yankees, I think your attitude changes just a bit.

Besides, I think Sidney would like to keep his job.



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I'm sure Fat Sidney would like to keep his job, but can/will he?

If I'm the Yanks and Dotel is close, I'd wait for him and then dump Ponson.

If no Dotel, I'd find a different replacement for Ponson.

Unless you figure that Wright could go down at any time and you want a little extra insurance with a guy like Ponson who can also start - except that he's horrible.


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Another great performance by Want: 8 innings, 4 hits, 0 runs, 3 BB, 3 SO, 13-4 with a 3.58 ERA. Unfortunatley boston came back

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I'm sure Fat Sidney would like to keep his job, but can/will he?

If I'm the Yanks and Dotel is close, I'd wait for him and then dump Ponson.

If no Dotel, I'd find a different replacement for Ponson.

Unless you figure that Wright could go down at any time and you want a little extra insurance with a guy like Ponson who can also start - except that he's horrible.
It can't be that hard to find another long-relief man. Ponson is horrible, and I hated when we picked him up, but he is playing for almost nothing from the Yankees payroll. Why not give him at least one more chance in a relief role...if Ponson's coming in, it's probably a wash anyways. Once Dotel is up, even if he's not what he used to be, he'd still be better than Ponson. Then, they could move Villone/Proctor into the long-relief role (if necessary, both seem to have good stamina) and put Dotel in as a setup-man or middle-relief.

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Yes, another great performance by Wang!

A-Rod totally sucked last night, going 3-for-5 with a run and 2 RBI's. We need to trade him. He totally blows!

Tonight, we get to see whether Cory Lidle really was the trade-buster Cashman said he was...



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Matsui Closer
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NEW YORK -- Hideki Matsui hopes the news is good when doctors examine his surgically repaired left wrist on Thursday. The big question is when and if Matsui can start swinging a bat again. The answer will go a long way in determining when the left fielder can return to the lineup he's been missing from for almost three months.

"Everything else is, in a sense, game ready, it's just my left wrist," Matsui said through an interpreter.

Matsui stretched with the Yankees on Wednesday in his first pregame workout with the team since May 11, when he fractured his left wrist sliding to make a catch at Yankee Stadium against Boston.

But even a positive report from doctors won't get him back in pinstripes immediately.

"I'll be back in Tampa," Matsui said. "I'm not going to jump right into [batting practice]. It will be a progressive thing."

Matsui expects to work off a tee and then take soft toss before hitting in batting practice. Thus far, Matsui has only been doing tee work and swinging with a short bat, which only works out his front hand.

Then there are rehab games in the Minor Leagues.

"He really needs to play some games," manager Joe Torre said. "He's not going to go down there and play one or two games. He's been missing all season."

Matsui, however, is still shooting for a return this month.

"It certainly depends on how my wrist feels," Matsui said. "But at this point, it could be a possibility."
Giambi Still Cramped
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It wasn't a big surprise, but Jason Giambi was out of the lineup on Wednesday with some residual effects of the leg cramps that forced him out of Tuesday's game after the fifth inning.

Torre wants Giambi in as the designated hitter for Thursday's day game and figured it was good idea to give Giambi the day off, especially with the temperature in the mid-90s again and left-hander Ted Lilly pitching for the Blue Jays.

"It's a little tight from being cramped yesterday," Giambi said through a team spokesman. "The plan is for me to be back out there tomorrow. It's feeling better, but it's still lingering from the cramp."

To give the players some relief from the heat, Torre shortened batting practice on Wednesday and will probably eliminate it altogether for Thursday's day game.

New Yankee Craig Wilson started at first base on Wednesday with Bernie Williams as the designated hitter.
Pavano Makes Good Progress
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Carl Pavano, who hasn't pitched for the Yankees this season after the removal of bone chips from his right elbow, threw 45 pitches before Wednesday's game.

Pavano threw one session of 25 pitches and then 20 more pitches consisting of mostly sliders and splitters.

"We'll wait until tomorrow and see how he feels. If he feels good enough, we'll do this [again] in a couple of days," Torre said. "We're on our way. This is a very positive outing, and we came up with a positive result."

If Pavano continues making progress and doesn't backtrack, Torre said the right-hander could make a Minor League rehab start by the end of the month.

In other injury news, second baseman Robinson Cano (strained left hamstring) is expected to play a rehab game for Double-A Trenton on Thursday, and if all goes well he could rejoin the Yankees next week in Chicago.
Farnsworth Scoreless
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Right-handed reliever Kyle Farnsworth came into Wednesday's game with six straight appearances without giving up an earned run. He's also struck out 10 in his last four outings, a span of just four innings.

"He's constantly working at his trade," Torre said. "Like [Scott] Proctor, they seem to have a plan out there and they're thinking with it as opposed to going away from what makes them successful. He's got a great slider, but he's got an incredible fastball."

Farnsworth has continually been clocked in the high 90s and comes in at 100 or 101 mph from time to time.
Jeter In The Running For The Hank Aaron Award

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Captain putting together one of his finest seasons in the Bronx

NEW YORK -- Asked just before the All-Star break who his team's first-half MVP would be, Yankees manager Joe Torre would seem to have a multitude of candidates. But he didn't hesitate.

Derek Jeter was his answer.

Now the Yankees' captain could win more than a hypothetical honor as Jeter is a candidate for this year's American League Hank Aaron Award.

Since 1999, the 25th anniversary of Aaron breaking Babe Ruth's all-time home run record, Major League Baseball has recognized the best offensive performer from each league with the Hank Aaron Award presented by CENTURY 21.

Past recipients include Barry Bonds (three times), Alex Rodriguez (three times), Manny Ramirez (twice), Albert Pujols, Todd Helton, Sammy Sosa and Carlos Delgado. Last year's winners, selected during balloting during the regular season's final month on MLB.com, were Boston's David Ortiz and Atlanta's Andruw Jones.

"It's nice any time you can have your name mentioned with Hank Aaron," Jeter said.

Jeter is having one of his finest offensive seasons in his 11th year. He was hitting .352 with seven homers and 63 RBIs as the week began. Jeter had the second-highest batting average in the Majors, only behind Minnesota catcher Joe Mauer. His .456 on-base percentage was fourth-highest in the AL.

"Even when you're not feeling good, your job is to try to find a way to get on base," said Jeter, who has missed only five games so far this season.

"That's what separates good years from average years. When things are going bad, you can't buy a hit. But when things are going good, you may get a bounce here or a bloop there."

Jeter has gotten much more than bounces or bloops. Still, he is on pace to hit a career season-low in home runs in a full season since 1997, his second year as a starter. Jeter hit just 10 homers in 2003 but played in only 119 games.

Hank Aaron Awards 2006

* AMERICAN LEAGUE
* Angels: Guerrero
* A's: Swisher
* Blue Jays: Wells
* Devil Rays: Crawford
* Indians: Hafner
* Mariners: Suzuki
* Orioles: Tejada
* Rangers: Young
* Red Sox: Ortiz
* Royals: DeJesus
* Tigers: M. Ordonez
* Twins: Morneau
* White Sox: Konerko
* Yankees: Jeter

* NATIONAL LEAGUE
* Astros: Berkman
* Braves: Jones
* Brewers: Hall
* Cardinals: Pujols
* Cubs: Barrett
* Diamondbacks: Tracy
* Dodgers: Garciaparra
* Giants: Feliz
* Marlins: Cabrera
* Mets: Wright
* Nationals: Soriano
* Padres: Gonzalez
* Phillies: Howard
* Pirates: Bay
* Reds: Dunn
* Rockies: Holliday

But Torre feels what enables Jeter to have such a high batting average may hinder his ability to club the ball out of the park -- hitting to the opposite field.

"Hitting to the opposite field, you're not going to get fooled very often because you're not looking to pull the ball," Torre said. "He hasn't hit as many home runs as he has in the past, but that doesn't mean he's not knocking in as many runs -- or more."

Jeter is on pace for a career high in RBIs. He had 70 last year and has only once notched more than 100. But projections are merely that, and as Jeter said, there's many more games to be played.

"We've got two months left -- the two most important months," Jeter said. "It's hard to comment on my year until it's over with. But I try to stay consistent day in and day out."

And that consistency was exactly Torre's reasoning for voting for Jeter as first-half Yankees MVP.



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Tonight, we get to see whether Cory Lidle really was the trade-buster Cashman said he was...
What a load of crap that line was....


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I wonder if he really thought he could convice people that the entire trade was dependant on Cory Lidle :p

Maybe it worked on George?

Cashman: "You see George, we're playing hardball."

Steinbrunner: "George likes his kung-pow spicy!"

Cashman: "We won't accept the deal unless this Lidle comes with."

Steinbrunner: "Is he any good?"

Cashman: "George, he's better than Sidney Ponson!"

Steinbrunner: "Mmm...this is great kung-pow."




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Lidle picks up his first win as a Yankee in his debut, and looked pretty good, should fit nicely as our 5th starter. Yankee offense pounded the Jays, who showed no sign of the will they had in the last series. It seems like they've given up trying to chase in either the AL East or the Wildcard. Oh well. Sorry Don Jasani :p

But hey, another sucky day for A-Rod, who goes 0-3 with two walks.



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For some reason, the Yanks beat the Jays in New York and the Jays beat the Yanks in Toronto. But yes, I think they're starting to fizzle away. The season is far from being over and Toronto can still turn it around but again, as I predicted Don Jasani, Toronto won't make the playoffs.

Yes Lidle did look good today and hopefully he can continue to improve. I was also glad to hear Chacon beat the Braves today.

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Also of note, Yanks move a half game ahead of the Red Sox in the standings.



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Also of note, Yanks move a half game ahead of the Red Sox in the standings.
For now, boston still plays tonight and can remain tied

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True, but let's hope otherwise.



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Yankees take first place in the AL East as Boston loses and falls 1 game back.

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EAST	        W	L	PCT	GB	HOME	ROAD	RS	RA	STRK	L10
NY Yankees	64	41	.610	-	36-19	28-22	590	494	Won 4	8-2
Boston	        64	43	.598	1	35-17	29-26	592	530	Lost 1	5-5
Toronto	        57	51	.528	8.5	35-21	22-30	569	532	Lost 5	2-8
Baltimore	49	60	.450	17	29-29	20-31	529	613	Lost 1	5-5
Tampa Bay	45	64	.413	21	27-25	18-39	482	591	Won 1	4-6 



Re: How bout them Yankees!? #258422
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Nice job by Georgie in the 9th, and the 27th save for Mo!! Good game!!


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Crosby designated for assignment

BALTIMORE -- Feeling uneasy with only 11 pitchers, the Yankees added Jose Veras to their bullpen before Friday's game, designating Bubba Crosby for assignment in the process.
"We tried this thing with 11 pitchers for a couple of days and I just wasn't comfortable," manager Joe Torre said. "I just felt we needed another arm based on the fact that when you get a game when you're way ahead or behind, you don't want to use or abuse [Scott] Proctor or [Kyle] Farnsworth or [Mariano Rivera].

"And you have Mike Myers, who you save for a man here and there, so you're really limited on who you have to go to down there. I just felt we needed another arm."

Proctor leads the American League in appearances (53) and innings pitched (66 1/3) among relievers. Farnsworth is second in appearances, one behind Proctor, and Rivera and Ron Villone rank fourth and fifth in the AL in innings, respectively.

"We certainly didn't think we were going to have a decision this soon, but the last couple of days have made me uncomfortable," Torre said.

Veras, who was recalled from Triple-A Columbus, has never pitched in the Majors before. New York purchased his contract in mid-June, but he did not appear in a game.

Designating Crosby was a "very tough" decision, Torre said. Crosby, who made the team's Opening Day roster, made 19 starts with the Yankees this season. He got 87 at-bats, hitting .207 with a homer and six RBIs.

"He becomes a luxury item," Torre said. "He can pinch-run for you; you put him out in center field."

The Yankees acquired Crosby in 2003 through a trade with the Dodgers. He split time in 2004 and '05 between Columbus and New York. Crosby did not talk to reporters before Friday's game.

"It's a one-way conversation. There's not a lot I can talk to him about," said Torre, who expressed that the need for another pitcher was a necessity that outweighed keeping Crosby. "Obviously, he had nothing to do with the decision as far as his lack of ability or anything. You couldn't use him."

Injuried Yanks

Injured Yanks: Robinson Cano made his second rehab start Friday, playing second base for Double-A Trenton. On Thursday, Cano went 2-for-5 as the designated hitter for the Gulf Coast League Yankees.

The All-Star has been out since June 27 with a strained left hamstring, which he suffered while running out a double. Torre expects to have Cano back early next week.

"If everything goes well from now until Tuesday, where he'll play over the weekend and probably Monday, Tuesday I would guess would be pretty realistic," Torre said.

As for outfielder Hideki Matsui, Torre said not to expect him back until next month. Matsui got X-rays on his fractured left wrist Thursday, and although they look fine structurally, there is still tenderness.

"It's going to be September whether we like it or not," said Torre, who added that Matsui will probably not make any rehab assignments.

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Sad to see Bubba go, maybe they can keep him in the minors?

Also, it's not surprising Matsui won't see any rehab assignments - doesn't MiLB end their season in early September?



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Yup, that's why Matsui and probably Sheff won't make any starts

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C'mon Yanks...5-0 to the Orioles? THE ORIOLES? Get your shit together! The games not over...



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C'mon Yanks...5-0 to the Orioles? THE ORIOLES? Get your shit together! The games not over...
It's over. Too many Boog Burgers or Sausage K-bobs or whatever they eat. You can't win 'em all.


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Oh well. BoSox lose as well, keeping them a game behind, as well as a half-game behind ChiSox in the Wild Card.



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Well, keep your fingers crossed for today's game. Mr. Can-I-Last-5-Innings Wright is pitching. Glad Jeter averted disaster with that slide into 3rd. Geez, I never saw Joe Torre hustle onto the field that quickly!!


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Wow, no Yankee fan bashing of A-Rod as of late. Maybe the zoo has put the sloths back in the cages.

P.S. - Yet another AL East division title for the Yanks? Probably.

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Another nice win for the Yankees. Wright did a fine job, allowing only one run. Abreu has fit in seamlessly, has he not? And yesterday Jorge Posada had his 330th start in two years, so he triggered his $12 million for next year. Good for you, Georgie!!

Now, let's see what Boston does. They're tied with Tampa in the 10th.


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Red Sox lose in extra innings and fall 2 games back behind the AL East leading Yankees.

Jorge is good, but I'd be in favor of finding someone else. He's a tractor on the basebaths, and too inconsistent at the plate as he grows older.

And Abreu has done a nice job fitting in, as has Wilson, so it looks like the Yanks deadline moves are paying off.



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Cairo Heads to the DL; Cano Returns Tuesday
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BALTIMORE -- The Yankees will place Miguel Cairo on the 15-day disabled list after he strained his left hamstring running out a ground ball Saturday night. Cairo had been playing almost every day, filling in for injured second baseman Robinson Cano, who suffered from the same injury.

Cairo will likely hit the DL on Tuesday, when Cano is expected to rejoin the Yankees in the opener of a three-game set in Chicago. Cano is making a final rehab start with Double-A Trenton on Sunday, and batted 7-for-12 with two doubles and two RBIs in three rehab games before then. During Saturday's start, Cano tested himself physically, running at full speed.

"He's going to be a pick-me-up for our lineup," manager Joe Torre said.

Cano has been out since June 27, forcing him to miss the remainder of the season's first half and the All-Star Game. On the year, he's batting .325 with 27 RBIs and 34 runs scored.

Torre said the team's head trainer, Gene Monahan, estimated Cairo would be out at least three weeks. After Saturday's game, Cairo said he had dealt with a hamstring injury in the past.

"That's tough, man; that's your legs," he said. "I didn't want to end up like this."

After a tough June in which Cairo batted .183, he bounced back in July with a .253 mark, with 10 runs and 11 RBIs in 23 games. Cairo was 1-for-5 in the Baltimore series, with a two-run double, before being injured.

Cairo is the third Yankee to be disabled with hamstring problems. Cano has missed more than a month with his injury, and Bubba Crosby -- who was designated for assignment Friday -- missed nearly a month from mid-May to mid-June with a strained right hamstring.

Nick Green replaced Cairo in Saturday's game and got the start Sunday, his seventh with the Yankees since being brought up from Triple-A Columbus when Cano went on the DL. With Cano coming back, Green will continue to play a backup utility role.
Pavano Throws BP, Rehab Start Coming Soon
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Carl Pavano, who has not pitched in a Major League game since June 2005, will make a rehab start with the Class A Tampa Yankees on Thursday.

Pavano threw batting practice to several of his teammates last week, including Saturday, and will throw a bullpen session Monday in Tampa, Fla. Thursday will be the first of a series of rehab starts, which will allow Pavano to rebuild his arm strength and endurance.

"He's ready to go," Torre said. "We're very enthused about what we saw yesterday."

Pavano also said he was very excited to be pitching in a game. If his rehab outings go well, Pavano could make a few starts with the Yankees down the stretch in September.

"That's what we're building toward," Torre said.

Pavano was sidelined last season after 17 games due to rotator cuff tendinitis. He's been battling back from a series of injuries, which includes surgery to remove a bone chip in his right elbow.
Dotel Debuts Soon
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Reliever Octavio Dotel threw again Saturday in a rehab assignment, and could rejoin the team later this month.

"There's a real possibility he'll be here before Sept. 1," Torre said.

Dotel is recovering from right elbow reconstruction surgery and has missed the entire season.



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At this point, I think it's a mad race to see who we'll see first - Dotel or Pavano. Actually, I find it hard to believe we're ever going to see either of them!!

I know that Posada has aged, but he's still a great player, and he's having a good season. I know that they need to start preparing for his retirement, but I think that they have another season or two.


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Quote:
Originally posted by Sicilian Babe:
I know that Posada has aged, but he's still a great player, and he's having a good season. I know that they need to start preparing for his retirement, but I think that they have another season or two.
I agree. Another reason why I'd keep him around is because he's clutch!

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