:rolleyes:

And, what, your 3rd favorite is Boston, right???

WTF????????????

OMG. Really: WTF?? That's just NOT RIGHT!!

{Listens as I12's credibility gets flushed right down the drain!}

*He was practically paisan*

The ONLY time I rooted for the MUTTS was in '86 -- for OBVIOUS REASONS!! THAT'S IT! Holy s h i t ...! omg...... too weak to even type.......

In all honesty, I grew up a Mets fan. My first sports role model growing up was Darryl Strawberry. I became a Yankee fan when Darryl came to the Yanks in 1996 and have been a die hard fan ever since. I don't get the whole "in New York you either love on or the other" mentality. I'm happy and proud of both teams. And if it ever came to another Subway Series, I'm pro Yankees. However, if the Mets advance further than the Yanks, I'm rooting for the Mets

How unfortunate. Cuz apparently you're not local, so how could you understand?! :p

But even I will admit, tho, that the '86 Mutts rocked! Even moreso for having beaten the BoSox, of course, but, they had personality -- everyone knew who they all were!

But today? Nah... as good as they are, I don't see them -- nor the Yanks for that matter -- anywhere, outside of the game.

...but to get back on topic: fuck Ortiz!!

Another Yankee win, another Boston loss. 11 1/2 out

Whoa Whoa Whoa, back up Geoff.......Irishman had credibility?

What the hell is going on?

I know, who'd have thunk it ronnie

So the Yankees will play two double headers against Boston this weekend, and then travel to Toronto. Man, oh man. I hope that the weather holds out for them today. Looking out my window right now, it doesn't look pretty.

i cant remember the last time i seen a 11 1/2 game lead in the division it feels like forever since its been that kinda lead

Rebuilding the Empire
The demise of the Yankees was greatly exaggerated

Until recently, the prevailing belief about the Yankees was that their run was about up. Their cycle of success was complete. After finding the ideal mix of a productive farm system and a characteristically aggressive approach in the trade and free-agent markets during the mid-to-late '90s, the Bombers seemed to revert to their old selves after 2001.

Instead of developing their own talent, they returned to the tactics that characterized George Steinbrenner during the '80s: trading their best chips for big-name, top-dollar veterans while breaking the bank in their pursuit of glitzy free agents. At the start of the 2005 season the Yankees' farm system was considered to be underwhelming, with no clear help in sight.

But nearly two seasons later, thanks to the breakout successes of Robinson Cano, Chien-Ming Wang and Melky Cabrera and a budding crop of farmhands, that perception couldn't be any more different from the truth.

"A year ago at this time, these Yankees seemed to be in a 'win now with this group' mode," says Pete Abraham, who covers the Yankees for The Journal News. "Now they have Cano, Cabrera and Wang as transition players with right-hander Philip Hughes, outfielder Jose Tabata and others on the way. There may be no letup."

Jay Jaffe wrote about the Yankees' farm system two summers ago in an article for Baseball Prospectus titled, "The Claussen Pickle," the upshot of which was that while the Yankees lost some good young players from 1994 to 2004, they didn't lose any Hall of Famers. Mike Lowell is the best position player the Yankees have traded in the past 10 years; perhaps Nick Johnson will surpass him one day.

Eric Milton, a No. 1 draft pick, helped land Chuck Knoblauch; Jake Westbrook and Zach Day fetched David Justice. However, "in the two years since that article was written," Jaffe explained recently, "it's even clearer that they've traded away players that were better than what they came up with for their secondary players. Juan Rivera, Marcus Thames or even Wily Mo Peña would have been superior to Ruben Sierra or Bubba Crosby on last year's team."

All of which makes the emergence of Cano, Wang and Cabrera even more crucial as the Yankees look to keep adding to their current streak of AL East titles (eight and counting, with nine almost assured). Sometimes, as the old baseball saying goes, it's better to be lucky than good, and there are many who consider the success of these three players to be, if not a fluke, at least a very pleasant surprise.

Take, for example, how Cano and Wang got their opportunities in the first place. A $200 million payroll buys the ability to survive disastrous mistakes like the 2004-05 offseason, which YES Network analyst Steven Goldman dubbed the worst of the Steinbrenner era, when they signed Carl Pavano, Jared Wright and Tony Womack and passed on Carlos Beltran. But the Yankees can absorb a bad signing like no other team, and in this case a poor decision proved to be a blessing in disguise: Womack's failures hastened the promotion of Cano. (In truth, the Yankees were desperate and willing to try anything.)

Uneven performances, combined with injuries to Pavano and Wright, allowed Wang the opportunity to crack the starting rotation. I don't think anyone would have envisioned Wang winning 17-plus games this year or Cano hitting over .330. But here they are, two key contributors to the 2006 team. Not everyone believes that their success has simply been a stroke of luck, though.

"No, I think it is real," says John Sickels, minor league analyst for Rotowire.com and author of the upcoming 2007 Baseball Prospect Book. "[Yankees GM] Brian Cashman & Co. realized about four or five years ago that they needed to revamp the system and have put more effort into scouting and player development, particularly on the international front."

The Yankees GM, flush with more control than ever after winning a front-office power struggle, refused to trade either Cano or Wang last season, and this year Hughes, the team's shining pitching prospect, was off-limits. Furthermore, "Cashman is firing scouts left and right and making significant changes within the system," says Abraham. "If he continues to get his way, the Yankees could become a player-development machine."

Damon Oppenheimer, a one-time protégé of Stick Michael, is part of the Tampa faction but appears to have a productive relationship with Cashman, as the tensions between New York and Tampa have eased significantly over the past couple of years. Oppenheimer has officially run the last two drafts, but his influence was all over the 2004 draft as well, when he was the VP of player development and scouting.

"Starting with the 2005 draft," says BP's scouting expert Kevin Goldstein, "the Yankees finally realized what everyone else has been thinking forever, which is, Why don't they just flex their muscles here, too? The Yankees had this long stretch where they'd say, 'Who is the best guy there? And whoever wants him, we'll pay him more.' They gave Wily Mo Peña $3 million and realized they weren't getting the kind of returns they wanted, so then they moved things around and said, 'Let's identify 10 high-ceiling guys and instead of spending $3 million on one, let's spend $300,000 on 10.' And that's where you get Melky Cabrera, and that's where you get Robinson Cano, and that's where you get Jose Tabata."

Prospect guru Bryan Smith, formerly of BaseballAnalysts.com and a contributor to SI.com, is similarly impressed by Oppenheimer's first two drafts. "The depth he added with shortstop C.J. Henry helped acquire Bobby Abreu from the Phillies, and the team likes what they see from right-hander J. Brent Cox and outfielder Brett Gardner," he said. "Furthermore, the Yankees' deep pocketbooks allowed them to take a risk by drafting a guy like outfielder Austin Jackson in the later rounds, and then paying him enough to return to school. That methodology continued in 2006, when the Yankees took and signed right-handers Mark Melancon and Dellin Betances."

The biggest challenge for the Yankees will be allowing the younger talent to develop. Goldstein notes that all of the Yankees' top prospects are under 21, presenting a two- or three-year gap between Cano, Cabrera and Hughes -- who could be in the big leagues as early as next season -- and the likes of Tabata.

"I do think because of all the draft problems that they had [prior to Oppenheimer taking over], there is a gap in the system," Goldstein says. "There is nothing at Double and Triple A unless you have any faith in infielder Eric Duncan, and I don't. Other than that, there is nothing there except for Hughes. So there is a gap and there is going to be patience that is needed, which will require the Yankees to spend on the free-agent market, which is something they are obviously able and willing to do."

Of course, the Yankees are equipped to fill holes like no other team.

"The Yankees do not have to become a homegrown team," says Abraham. "But every homegrown regular increases the money they can spend elsewhere, be it on free agents or international signings."

This winter, the most attractive foreign talent is a 26-year-old pitcher from Japan, Daisuke Matsuzaka. While financial clout doesn't necessarily always win out with Japanese players (witness Ichiro's desire to play in Seattle), the fact that the Yanks will have Wang on the cheap helps them prepare to make a serious run at Matsuzaka.

Smith expects the Yankees to continue to be both aggressive and successful in signing players from Latin America and Asia. "But it will be Oppenheimer's success with the draft that turns the farm system around, taking the right players early and the expensive players late," he says.

While it should take several years before Oppenheimer's efforts can be properly evaluated, it seems as if the Yankees are intent on applying both smarts and financial aggressiveness in the way they run their farm system, perhaps allowing them to remain atop the AL East for years to come.

Source: SI.com

Well at least the Yanks split on Saturday night

Yes, that guy is insane. I'd love to see him in pinstripes. Hopefully we can get Moose back, and bring up Hughes.

Wang
Mussina
Matsuzaka
Hughes
Wright/Pavano/Karstens (?)

Kicky!

You're missing Unit DJ. He'll be in the final year of his contract next year

Lets go Yanks!!!

Wow what a surprise, Kyle Farnsworth blows ANOTHER game for us. Is anybody else seriously missing Tom Gordon right about now? I never wanted him to leave in the first place. I'd much rather have him than Farnsworth

I'm not. Same shit. :rolleyes:

I'm missing Mo, tho.

But these games don't mean shit, anyway, except for home field advantage. It's not like we're not gonna clinch. But it'd be nice to do it SOON to give guys some rest...

Sorry to see Jeter's hitting streak end at 26, tho... Great job! But DMC jinxed him by picking him for the Diamond Daily game...

I didn't forget him. I'm just figuring without him, since you never know how much left he has in the tank.

You do realize these games don't matter, right? I mean, c'mon. The Red Sox are dead, and the Yanks need like 3 games to clinch.

Sure the games don't matter but Farnsworth needs to nail these games down now. I don't have hardly any confidence in him, and like I said, I'd much rather see Tom Gordon there (I had more confidence in him).

I did to. But we still have Proctor, Villone, Bruney, Myers, Dotel, et al, all whom will perform well when used in their normal roles. Farnsworth had been doing well up to that point.

So give them a break. Torre is going to push them in ways he wouldn't so he knows what he does and doesn't have in the playoff run.

What's going on with Villone during the last month? Every time I see that he pitches he's starting to give up a lot of runs. Earlier in the year when I saw him pitch he was (for the most part) lights out. Fatigue or what?

I think over-use. He was taxed quite a bit this year, and hopefully they can rest him up before the October run.

Jeter and A-Rod both homer and Rasner pitches decent to give the Yanks a 7-6 win over the Blue Jays, moving the magic number to 3.

As for the bullpen core, they went through Villone, Dotel, Myers, and finally Veras to get the save. Dotel still doesn't seem to be totally recovered from that Tommy John deal. I think we probably won't see him back to his normal 100% until next season.

Yankees News and Notes

Rivera Pitches In The Bullpen; On Schedule
Sheffield Works On First Base Drills
Tired Arm: Villone?

You think they'll sign him again for next year? I think he only signed a 1 year deal but I could be wrong

Ortinz says he's done talking about AL MVP

David Ortiz is not boycotting the press, although he does not want to talk about the AL MVP award.

"There's no boycott. I won't stop talking to my people," said Ortiz in reference to the regular Red Sox reporters.

Ortiz, who leads the American League with 49 home runs and 129 RBI, did not talk to the press during the four-game series between the Red Sox and the Yankees played last weekend in New York.

"I just didn't want to talk to the New York reporters so as not to create a big thing about an issue that's not important," Ortiz told ESPNdeportes.com from Boston.

The Red Sox will start a three-game series against the Minnesota Twins on Tuesday.

Ortiz was booed by the fans and criticized by the media in New York due to recent comments about the MVP award, in which he compared himself with Yankees' star, Derek Jeter.

"Don't misinterpret me. He is a great player and is having a great year, but there are lots of good players in that team," said Ortiz about Jeter. "From top to bottom, they have guys that can hurt you. Let's bring him here, so he can show us how good he is," Ortiz said, according to Boston newspapers.

"I'm not thinking about the MVP award right now. We are thinking about winning the division. We still have something to play for," answered Jeter.

After the Yankees swept the Red Sox in a five-games series in Boston to take the lead in the AL East, Jeter's odds to win the MVP award have increased dramatically.

The Yankees captain is second in the league in batting average (.340) and has 198 hits, 14 home runs, 95 RBI and 109 runs scored.

Ortiz is batting .283 and leads the league in home runs and RBI, while he is second in walks (107), thirds in OPS (1,031) and slugging (.625), fourth in runs scored (107) and seventh in on-base percentage (.405).

The Dominican designated hitter needs one more home run to tie the franchise record owned by Jimmie Foxx since 1938.

"Jeter is a horse on the field and a classy person. I would never say something to hurt him," said Ortiz.

"That's why I decided not to talk to the New York reporters last week. I think that they have misinterpreted my comments on purpose and they have exaggerated my words," he added.

Last season, Ortiz lost the MVP race to Alex Rodriguez, from the Yankees, in one of the closest votings ever.

"I'm not going to talk anymore about this award, because if I didn't win in 2005 and I don't deserve it in 2006, then I don't think I could ever win it," said Ortiz

Source: ESPN.com

Yanks magic number down to 1!

You think they'll sign him again for next year? I think he only signed a 1 year deal but I could be wrong [/b][/quote]Dunno what his contract is, but Torre seems to like him, and the general groove from the front office is that he's still recovering from surgery and should return to form in 2007.

If they win tonight and Boston loses, they'll clinch the division title. However, if Boston wins and they win, and then Boston loses tomorrow, the Yankees will clinch on their day off. That would NOT be fun.

Actually, the Magic Number is 1 -- either a NYY Win (with rookie Henn vs Halladay ) or a BOS Loss (by Schilling) would clinch it.

I thought it had to be a combination. What do I know?

It is a combination, of either/or... but we're down to 1, so... it's either/or!