I believe that every single deleted scene should have been left in the movie. I dont know if anyone here has seen the Godfather saga, which puts the whole story in chronilogical order and keeps all the deleted scenes in it. But you will see that the deleted scenes hold special significance and explain things better and give different insight into some characters, for example, the owner of the funeral home who makes the infamous request at Connies wedding, when he is called upon to return his Don's favor after sonny is shot, there is a scene where Tom actually calls him in the middle of the night to go meet them, at which time he bad mouths the Don to his wife for a while. This makes me think of him entirely different.

Hi, and welcome to the boards. Yes, i agree with you. I remember one deleted scene with Sonny where, after he tells his mother that the Don was shot, he goes to the Don's office to contact some people. But just before he enters the room, he stares at the Don's desk for a few seconds. It makes you wonder whether he was worried about becoming the new Don. Well as we all know, he turned out to be a bad Don.

Yes, I think the same. The extra scenes add something new to the movie. WIthout them you miss a lot.

Welcome aboard!!

I get the same feeling when it comes to the deleted scenes. Except I don't want to see the movies in chronilogical order.

see that is the iteresting thing..Every Godfather fan would want to see everything they can..that is a given if you are a fan! so no big deal hearing that statement...

But unlike Dream Master I do think that the story does play better in chronilogical order. Stories are best told in order and in the godfather the story told from start to finish makes more sence then flash backs and all. Nothing worst then what they did to the star wars story..going back.

with all those deleted scenes put in it, how long does this Saga version takes?

Too long, I guess.

I wish there was a way on the DVD to add the deleted scenes where they would have gone! That would be hecka-cool! (sorry, I've been saying that a lot. Cartman said it a lot in one episode, so I've been stuck with it recently!)

Concerning the movie's theatrical release, studio's give directors and his staff a running time and he has to follow it, even if it means it'll be a lesser quality version of the film.

Martin Scorsese was recently forced to cut 45 minutes out of his Gangs of New York, even after he strongly argued that there was practically no footage he could cut without reducing the quality of his film.

Why does he have to cut 45 minutes of the movie? Don't these companies understand by now that you can't cut some movies to fit a certain "time frame!?" Stop putting this guys on clocks, and shut up & collect your paychecks!

There all called Deleted Scenes because they weren't in the original movie, correct? That is a great idea to put it all in and see all the extra footage. Then it wouldn't be the original movie. I'm not sure if the Deleted Scenes in the DVD set were in the Original Movie Theater, if they were then my reply is meaningless.

In retrospect, it's easy to say that the deleted scenes should have been included. But you have to remember that FFC had a lot of problems with this movie, and Paramount didn't want the flick to be that long. FFC had cut the film down to 2:55, but the studio wanted him to trim it down to 2:20. FFC's contract called for a cut shorter than 2:30, and if he went over that then Paramount was going to cut it for him. Eventually they relented, and they put it back at 2:55. But there's no way that they would have allowed another 45 minutes on top of that. Remember, they had no idea the movie would be this popular.

If you take a movie like Harry Potter, the movie studios were certain that it was going to be a hit, regardless of how long it was. So they didn't really cut anything out of the book, and they made one long-ass movie. But there were no such assurances when it came to The Godfather.

I understand what you're saying Don Corpuzzi, but my question is, why don't these studios learn from their past mistakes? Why cute Gangs of New York by 45 minutes? I think Martin Scorsese has proven himself with such films as Raging Bull, Goodfellas, and Casino. So why mess with success? The man knows what he's doing, so why not let him work & have the movie be 45 minutes longer. People maynot like the fact that a movie is long, but they'll see it anyways! (Godfather, Scarface, Saving Private Ryan, JFK, Schindler's List, Beautiful Mind, etc)

Because most big studios are run by morons such as the Woltz character

btw... has anybody seen Gangs Of New York yet? even with the cuts it turned out brilliantly

Especially Michael's revenge on Frabrizio

I dont understand some of thoses seens where in the T.V version my mum and dad taped many years ago??

Though the deleted scenes are delightful to watch, except for a very few (like the "What about Sonny, what about Sicily?" moment between Michael & Vito) their omission does not cause us to miss much from the overall story. Just think of how many more deleted scenes there are that didn't even make it into the Saga???

Bottom line is, had these never been added to a Novel for Television, we really wouldn't know or care what we were missing. Yet, I can't think of any scenes from the original films that could have been omitted.

We all know - or should know - that due to time restraints in final editing the film, FFC had to cut what are now known as the 'deleted scenes'. If they hadn't hit the cutting room floor, then some of the scenes that remained in the film would have. Coppola had to make the tough choices.

If anyone on this board had been involved in that final editing process, please let me know if there are any of the deleted scenes that you would trade off for ones that made the film.

Thanks,
Apple

I think about it all the time. I'd love to see the scene where Michael marched into Fabrizzio's pizzeria and blew him away with his own lupara. Also, there must be about 50 hours of film from GFIII in some cutting room somewhere that, if put together intelligently, would actually give it a better, more coherent plot.

Turnbull:

Just like you would have preferred to see Michael kill Fabrizzio personally (although that didn't happen in the novel or the film) I would have loved Kay to stay with Michael as she did by the end of the novel....I really, really wished FFC had done that in at least GI and GII....I wanted Michael (despite his downfalls) to have a partner for life,...

He Did.

AL NERRI- Did you see his hair style back then?

When Kay was away, Michael went his own way
He was with Michael to the end.

(that is a joke no need to get upset)

What occurs in the 'current day' segments of GFII went far beyond the end of the novel. Though Kay stayed with Michael upon his becoming Don Corleone, FFC (and Puzo) had to have considered how her feelings/emotions/frustrations would evolve as the years went on. Considering the Kay we knew in those earlier years, despite her love for him it makes complete sense that there was no way she would stay with Michael through the end of her days. After all, he did promise a 'completely legitimate' family and the day came when she knew he couldn't fulfill that promise.

Anyway...part of the effectiveness of the end of GFII is that Michael is truly alone.

Apple

Hi, all. This is my first post to this board, but I'm a longtime Godfather aficianado.

The weekend that the original GF chronology was shown on TV I was on my honeymoon on Paradise Island (of all places). There wasn't a TV to be found on the island, as the focus of GOING to PI is to gamble, that I never saw it. And I STILL haven't seen the whole thing.

But I've seen bits and pieces of some of the edited stuff. It shows up from time to time on TV (though NOT in the VHS trilogy my son bought me for Christmas two weeks ago).

I wish they hadn't edited the stuff out. I just saw the GF on Bravo! recently, and a lot of the edited footage made it -- including the scene where the four of them (including Tom) and the Don visit Genco in the hospital right before he dies, and Michael -- with his military hat on -- stares his father in the face and walks away. Great scene -- and it is the first indication that Michael has that cold, steely will that made him a far less benevolent Don than his father was.

There's also a cut scene, before the modern Michael scenes in Godfather II get going (as opposed to the young Vito scenes) where someone goes into a pizza parlor in Buffalo and kills Fabrizio -- the bodyguard who betrayed Michael in Sicily. Does anyone remember that?

yes I do, great scene.

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