You're so creative, DB. Is there any limit to your talents?

MAN, is this season ever gonna start or what?! I'm getting so restless! I'm listening to preseason games on AM radio just to get my fill, for cryin' out loud. Let's get it going!!

What exact date does the ESPN game start?

By the way, good luck to all of you in this game... yay! It finally started, so the topic's not sticky anymore.

I'll post threads for the 2 new games -- and make them sticky!

I wish they would expand some players' position eligibility. AI only as a Point Guard? Hinrich as a SG?

I'd like Jermaine O'Neal at Center and Caron Butler at SG.

I agree. I have the same problem with Arenas listed only as a PG, and Lamar Odom as a SF, and, ridiculously I think, as a SG, but not a PF. :rolleyes:

How does that work, their positions aren't listed and you get to draft them for whatever you want? Or are they not listed correctly? That sounds weird.

We drafted players based on their positions, and some, for their eligibility for a number of positions (at least, that's what we were hoping). Having AI available for PG or SG (or any other player with multiple eligibility) gives me more options in setting my lineup. As of right now, AI is only available for PG (but I think he plays more SG than PG). Some positions are outright wrong, like Hinrich as a SG.

Ohhh. This was a one-time thing for the whole season, right? That's pretty complicated for something with such screw-up potential. What a commitment. You guys are brave.

The way we set the league up, you have to have two guys for each position, plus there's a five man bench.

Naturally, it's an advantage to have guys who play more than one position, since that gives you some added maneuverability, except yes, they have some guys who play more than one position listed at only one, and, seemingly some guys listed at the wrong positions, although Odom is the only one I found so far who is listed at a position that i don't think he plays.

BTW, you gonna get in the Salary Cap game, or what?

If it's anything like Yahoo baseball, they'll make changes accordingly. In baseball, I don't know the exact rules, but if say Piazza played a certain number of games at first base, Yahoo will add first base to Piazza's eligibility in addition to Catcher.

Maybe they'll do the same in basketball?

PLEASE NOTE THE FOLLOWING:

The NBA has announced that it will no longer utilize an Injured List (IL). As a result, the IL option has been removed in the fantasy game. If you wish to replace an injured player in your starting lineup, you must place him on your bench or drop him to waivers.

Okay, now I'm confused: When I click on the "Maximums Per Position" link (In "My Team" > Other Utilities), it shows 164 games per position. That number is twice the 82 games Plaw mentions.

It seems to me that we're getting 82 games played for EACH of the players at a position rather than each position, combined. Is that right? 82 games for one PG, and 82 games for another PG (regardless if they're the same person or not)??

Because that's not quite what I understood before, nor what Plaw described. It seems I can use LeBron for 82 days, and also another SF for another 82 days.

Right?

P.S. I just realized something. If I'm right, that means Plaw is... wrong!

As I understand it, it's 82 games at each position.

Two PGs = 164 games at PG.

From the site: Note: Each spot on your roster (not each player) allows for a maximum number of games played.

Had I wanted to limit the number of games at each poition to 82, why would I have had two roster spots for each position?

I thought that was the way I had always been explaining it. If that wasn't clear from my previous posts, well, I dunno....

Was anyone else confused, and DB: Do I have this right?

"Each spot on your roster" (PG, PG) is different than "each position" (PG) -- and I had understood the latter before seeing the yahoo page... that's all... so it's 82 games per each roster spot (not position)... that was my confusion...

I think you both have it right now. It will be a max 82 games per roster spot.

Can I ask a stupid question?

Okay, I'm gonna ask anyway... :p

If, for example, I leave LeBron in my lineup at SF, but he doesn't play (the team doesn't play), I don't lose one of my 82 games of his, right?

i.e., I only have 6 players active for tomorrow. I don't have to move everyone else to the bench, right?

A game doesn't count unless LeBron actually gets in the game and no, you don't have to put anyone on the bench.

If Lebron plays and gets injured in the first minute, then that's another story...

K, thanks.

But if LeBron DOES get hurt in the first minute, I'm coming to Chicago!!

ok so the season hasn't even started yet and Camby has had 2 injuries :rolleyes:

Surely you're not surprised.

As Yahoo says.....

There are few certain things in life, but one of the more absolute things in life is the fact that Marcus Camby will get injured; it's just a matter of time. If you elect to fill a roster spot with Camby you are assuming the injury risk that comes with it.

I'm not "surprised" but to be honest I think the guy is weak, in terms of not playing through injuries that he could. I figured that with the way the team played last year and has the chance to play this year that maybe he'll play through them.

I still have Chandler at least, I think he'll move into my starting role over Camby though.

Here's an idea I just had.....

While I'm cognizant of everyone's desire (including my own) to not make this a "Daily Game" (one is enough), I was thinking:

Suppose we change the maximum number of games at each position from 82 to, say, 108.

The way it stands now, theoretically at least, the only situations in which you would (or should, anyway) use a player from your bench is if

a) A starter is injured, or
b) A starter is wildly underperforming or a bench player is doing far better than you expected him to.

But by increasing the max number of games to 100, not only would the above scenarios apply, but you would also have to ( or should, anyway) make use of your bench players an additional 26 times during the season, or about once per week.

This would have the advantage of

a) Increasing everyone's scoring and allowing for wider fluctuations, which would give players who were behind a greater chance to make up ground, and

b) Increasing the value of the bench, which might encourage more trades and player movement, but at the very least would add some additional strategy, like knowing when the favorable matchups would be to use a becnh player those 26 times, etc.

As I am aware of the fact that we all drafted based on an 82 game maximum, if anyone has any objections I'll leave it the way it is at 82, but keep in mind that this doesn't really make it anything close to a daily game, since it involves a decision that, barring injuries to a starter, you'd have to make only 26 times during the course of a season that's approximately 26 weeks long.

Also, according to Yahoo rules this is a modification that can be made even after the season starts but, obviously, if we're gonna do it we should make the change as soon as possible.

Comments?

Plaw I was thinking all day about posting that exact thing (of course not written the same way though lol)

I like the fact that we can use our bench, because if none of our starters get injured it would be a set it and forget it league

I like 108.

Damn. I was hoping to just play the first 82 days and then take the rest of the season off.

While I do have a grasp of what Plaw says about maximizing a stud's 82 games played - I'm still in a "daily mode" mentality and can't help but put someone in anyway. So I supposed, for me at least, the more days the better. Then again, I don't really care - I'm gonna do it wrong anyway!!

That wouldn't work because your starters will have only played about 30-35 games or so at that point.

When I discussed this format with DB, somewhat at length when setting thinga up, he pointed out to me that if you don't care about matchups and such, you don't really have to worry about making up your lost games until nearly the end of the season.

If one of your starters misses, say, three games during the course of the season due to minor injuries, you can wait until one of your backups has at least three games left on days when the starter's team isn't playing to make the three games up.

That could be as late as maybe 10 days or two weeks to go in the season.

Oh.

I wrote my post before reading your second post there.

Yeah, if you think your bench players are as good as your starters you could do that, assuming that you could fill every position every day for the first 82 days (There could be a day, for example, during the first 82 days when none of your centers happen to be scheduled).

You'd probably build up a big lead during those first 12 weeks or so, and then you could sit back and watch everyone chase you.

BTW, I just noticed this today; I don't know if all of you guys realized it or not.....

If you go to the page with your roster and click on the link for "Season", it will show you how many points, based on our scoring system, each of your guys scored last year.

Although I'd rather not go to the higher limit, I'll go with the majority.

I thought about it some more, and I think we should just leave it the way it is.

If it turns out to be too boring, we can always do it differently next year.