Ti-Ki, MVP. Ti-Ki, MVP.

He has quietly established himself as a premier running back. Some of his runs yesterday were quite amazing. They guy doesn't stop. Hats off to Plax B. for throwing some great blocks too, 3 on one play.

I love you New York Giants.

Hopefully tonight I'll love Indy too.

First off Plaxico MUST make that catch in the endzone on the opening drive. if he does, then it's a totally different game.

Will Allen. When are they going to get rid of this f**king guy? he sucks!

The officiating was like a 12th man on the field for the Redskins. Roughing the passer? Give me a damn break. The guy didn't even hit the QB, he wrapped his arms around him and clearly held up. This call gives the Skins a first down which leads to a TD.

Then they call a bullshit holding on the Giants and take the touchdown away from them?

Combine these two calls and what it adds up to is a 14 point swing for the Skins. Give the Skins an automatic first down which leads to a TD and take a way a TD from the Giants with that shit holding call and there you have it. 14 points in favor of the Skins.

Then to add salt to the wound, after making a bullshit holding call like that, a bullshit roughing the passer call like that, the officials don't remain consistant by not calling a Pass Interferance on the pass to Burress?

Not making any excuses for the Giants, but the officiating really sucked along with Will Allen.

I did not want to have to go into next weeks game HAVING to win.


Ok, I've vented. Now I have to go and celebrate Christmas.


Don Cardi

DC,

You forgot to throw Curtis DeLoatch in with Allen. He's a big suck-ass too. Of all the catches that Burress made this year, that one he missed was cake.

I have a cousin who is a Redskin fan. He said of all the losses the Skins had all but the Giant blowout were caused by the refs. Such is a fans perspective.

Merry Christmas....now let's kick Oakland's ass next week!

From your mouth to God's ears.


A home game in the playoffs would really be big for us.


And they better teach Allen how to play defense!


Don Cardi

Congrats to the Giants on clinching the NFC East title



PS - Wasn't it the Giants who originally started the "Gatorade Bath" tradition with Tuna back in the early 1990s?

Close. It started with him in the mid-80's.

Yes it was. Harry Carson started it. One time Carson even put on an overcoat and a cap as a disguise because Parcells was looking for Carson at the end of the game, so Carson put the disguise on to try and fool Parcells and dump the Gatorade on him.


Congrats to my G-Men! A Home game is huge. Now anything can happen.


Don Cardi

Ok fellow Big Blue fans, here we go!

The only thing worrying me is the secondary. It's basically depleted with injuries. We need to keep a lot of pressure on Jake and hope that he makes a few mistakes.

Offensively, just having Shockey on the field is a huge plus for the Jints.

The Giants should go with a no huddle offense on their first possession. Eli seems to strive in a no huddle situation. I think that he does NOT have time to think and goes basically on instinct and talent. If I was Coughlin, I'd call the no Huddle on their first drive of the game.

But then again, I'm posting my thoughts here on the boards, and he's got the multi million dollar contract and is standing on the sidelines.


GO GIANTS! ( )


Don Cardi

**HALFTIME**


Wat Da Fock Mang!?!?!




Don Cardi

This is really disgusting...

Eli's inexperience is showing.

Ah, well...next year come playoff time he'll have this game and 16 more under his belt.

But quite honestly, I don't see him ever becoming an elite QB in this league; an Elway, Marino, Montano, Brother Peyton, Aikman, Brady, etc.

A Drew Brees type, maybe, is where I see him. Not necessarily that type of QB, but at about that level in the QB pecking order.

Too bad the Buffalo Bills didn't take a lesson from Coughlin's Giants and allowed their rookie QB to start and get experience.

Oh, wait, that makes too much sense...no wonders Mike Mularky didn't do it. :rolleyes:

Terrible Team effort.

You have to give Fox and his Panthers a lot of credit.


Well, it was a good season. Hopefully, like Plaw said, next season Eli will have another 16 games under his belt and he will help make them a better team.




Don Cardi

I hope so, too.

I wouldn't call myself a Giants "fan", really. I prefer the Jets if I had to make a choice, but it's always exciting when a local team has a shot at the big prize.

And history has shown that you don't have to be an Elway, Marino, Montano, Aikman, Brady, or Peyton Manning to win a Super Bowl.

Eli certainly can be good enough to win one, I think.

Boy wasn't that a great game

Plus I picked Carolina to win & my friend picked the Giants. I figured the Panthers would concentrate on stopping Tiki Barber, basically daring Eli Manning to beat them. And Like I figured he wouldn't be able to do it.

That may have been the earliest I've ever left a Giants' game, and I've been to 95% of the games ever played at Giants' Stadium.

No that wasn't a great game. It was a great effort and execution by the Panthers, and very poor defensive effort by the Giants, which led to poor effort by the offense. Nice figuring about stopping Tiki Barber. :rolleyes:

I didn't get a chance to see all of the game BUT there was thing I didn't agree with that the announcers said. Everyone is talking about how they stopped Barber and forced Eli to throw but one of the announcers says something like "Burress was known for fading away in playoff games and he's doing it again here" Assuming he wasn't dropping catchable passes it seems (from the recaps I've heard) that MANNING wasn't doing his job. How can you blame Burress for fading away when he's not getting catchable passes thrown to him (or in his vicinity it seems like)

How about I lock you out of our Fantasy Hockey League!!! :p


Panthers were very well prepared for this game. IMO Fox has always stepped up to the plate with a great game plan, especially a defensive one, when any of his teams face a big game. I rememeber when he was with The Giants in 2000 and in the playoffs they were first facing the Eagles and McNabb, and then the Vikings with a very hot Culpepper. His defensive game plans in both games were just superb. Well he did it again today.

Watch out for the Panthers. My prediction is that if they Beat Chicago, then they will go to The SuperBowl.


Don Cardi

We were calling for his head when he was Pittsburgh. I love the way he's sacked pretty much everyone and dispersing the blame from himself.

Gee, I called Carolina to win it. But to edge it. I knew the Giants defense had a few holes but didn't realise quite how depleted it was. I also figured Carolina would limit Barber and they did but by effectively getting a good lead over the Giants took him out the game anyway.

Is it me or has there been tons of missed tackles everywhere in the league this season?

Now, I'm not a Giants fan but everytime I see an interview with Eli Manning after the game he is always smiling. That irritates me to no end, there is absolutely nothing about that game that he can be happy about.

I was listening to WFAN 's Mike and Chris for about an hour today, and man did they rip the Giants in general, and Eli in particular.

I'd love to hear those two wusses say some of the things they said today directly to Manning & Coughlin when they have them as guests.

Never happen. I've heard those two, many times over the years, rip apart a certain player or a coach, saying this and that about them, and then when they get that player or coach on the phone, they have a completely different tone about them.

I guess that they are in the business to get ratings by causing controversy at times. And the truth is, they do a pretty good job of it.


Don Cardi

That's what I meant, DC. The only time I ever heard them be rough with a guest was with Cablevision's Dolan once, when they were talking about the Knicks.

Usually they just lob softballs at the guests, and then when a caller criticizes them for that, that fat slob Francesa goes off on the poor guy.

You should have heard them today...."Manning was like a deer caught in the headlights", "Burress is strictly a frontrunner, and when things don't go his way he disappears", etc.

Not necessarily disagreeing with what they said, I just hate how they treat the guests with so much deference and respect when they're on the air with them, but rip them to shreds when they're not.

plaw this sort of reminds me of a Jay Leno interview. I don't remember who the guest was but the dialogue of it was something like:

Jay: Now, let me ask you this. You took a lot of heat over the past few weeks for BLANK.

Guest: No, I took a lot of heat the day after BLANK, you carried it on for the next few weeks.

Dead silence.


I would love to see Tiki, Plexico any of them call the hosts out when they are on the show. It doesn't have to be in a very mean way but just to say how come you had nothing nice to say about me until I come on your show.