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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #269516
02/14/06 03:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by plawrence:
Cute. :rolleyes:

I guess you prefer those other well-thought-out fantasy games we play here.
That's right. Can't wait for fishin' season.

Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #269517
02/14/06 03:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by plawrence:
[b]
I guess you [JL] prefer those other well-thought-out fantasy games we play here.
At least he *plays* them... :p [/b][/quote]Oh?

I must've missed him, then, in Yahoo Football, Yahoo Basketball, The NBA Rookies Game, The NBA Pick 'Em Game, The NFL Playofs Salary Cap Game.....

Those were all within the last six months, weren't they?


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #269518
02/14/06 03:18 AM
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He is, after all, the Master of All Fantasy Sports, for chrissakes! You expect too much from him!




I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! tongue lol

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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #269519
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I guess.

He should stick to those simple games with an auto-draft and no maximum number of games played at each position.

This game may be a bit too cerebral for him.


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #269520
02/14/06 04:18 AM
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Fuck this. Go play with yourself. :rolleyes:

Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #269521
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Ouch!



I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! tongue lol

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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #269522
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Gee, Lou.....I had no idea that the number of relief pitchers on each team meant that much to you.



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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #269523
02/15/06 07:23 PM
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Plaw your mailbox is full.


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #269524
02/15/06 07:44 PM
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Im popppuuuulaaar


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #269525
02/15/06 08:49 PM
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Like, omigod, you're like, SOOO popular! That must be like so totally cool.

Anyhoo, kids. For those of you who haven't been to the Yahoo league since yesterday, you won't know this yet, so I'll announce it... Ready?
*ahem* ...I'm in.

Now you can celebrate, or pour ashes over your head, depending on how you feel about it. Laugh, cry, smile, yell, throw things... all acceptable.

One good thing about it, even if you don't like me: now none of you will be in last place.

Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #269526
02/15/06 10:10 PM
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If we get one more chick, we can have co-ed teams.

I want Crabby as my partner.


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #269527
02/15/06 10:19 PM
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I would like to pre-determine the draft order, at least for me it would be very useful.


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #269528
02/16/06 07:54 AM
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I was asked for a rundown of the abbreviations for the stat categories, so.....

Code:
Hitting
Category                   Abb.   Value
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Runs Scored                R        +1  for each run scored
Runs Batted In             RBI      +1  for each RBI    
Stolen Bases               SB       +1  for each SB
Caught Stealing            CS      (-1) for each CS  
Bases On Balls (Walks)     BB       +1  for each BB
Hit By Pitch               HBP      +1  for each HBP
Grounded Into Double Play  GIDP    (-1) for each time a hitter does it
Singles                    1B        +1 for each
Doubles                    2B        +2 for each
Triples                    3B        +3 for each
Home Runs                  HR        +4 for each
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Pitching
Category                   Abb.    Value
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Games Started              GS      +1 for each GS   
Wins                       W       +6 for each W 
Losses                     L       -6 for each L
Complete Games             CG      +3 for each CG
Shutouts                   SHO     +3 for each SHO (must be a CG, tho)
Saves                      SV      +8 for each SV
Outs                       OUT     +1 for each out recorded
Hits Allowed               H      (-1) for each H allowed
Earned Runs Allowed        ER     (-3) for each ER allowed
Bases On Balls (Walks)     BB     (-1) for each BB allowed
Hit By Pitch               HBP    (-1) for each batter hit
Strikeouts                 K       +1  for each strikeout
Wild Pitches               WP     (-1) for each WP
Save Opportunities         SVOP   (-4) for each opportunity
Holds                      HLD     +1  for each HLD


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #269529
02/16/06 07:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
I would like to pre-determine the draft order, at least for me it would be very useful.
Two votes for that.....

Anyone else?

I'm gonna assume, as commissioner, that if no one comes out specifically against something that I suggest, that it's OK with them.

If we decide we want to do that, how far in advance of the draft would you want to know?

I'd like to keep the league open for new members to join as long as possible.....would, say, three days be enough?


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #269530
02/16/06 04:44 PM
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well I haven't been spending much time at home lately so I figured if anyone could send me a private message when the game really was set to start. I still didn't sit to read the thread and all those crazy stats you are discussing about. please keep me aware of what's going on !


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #269531
02/16/06 05:29 PM
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Hey Tony, how are ya?

The game we've been talking about so far is a Yahoo Game, with a live draft ,scheduled for March 20th at 9:30 PM Eastern Time in the U.S., so that's when our game starts - with the live draft - although the MLB teams don't start actually playing each other until Sunday, April 2nd.

You'll have to figure out when that is based on your time.

Have you ever played this type of game before? This is a totally different type of format than the ESPN Salary Cap Game that we've played the past few yours.

It might be a better game for you, though, since it doesn't require the same kind of daily attention that the ESPN Salary Cap Game does. :p

We will definitely be playing that one also, which will start on Sunday, April 2nd, when the teams actually start playing.

Don't forget, the rosters for that game will lock for that game at 2:59 AM Eastern Time in the U.S. on the same day, Sunday, April 2.


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #269532
02/17/06 02:59 AM
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Let me start off by saying I'm not a huge fantasy sport player however I am very interested as some of you may know already in stastics and sports numbers of all kinds. And obviously, it goes without saying I am a huge sports fan. Baseball, Soccer, Hockey, Basketball, Football, even Tennis, Golf and a few others too. I do however have a team in the Toronto Star Fantasy Hockey League (The Family) http://www.fantasysports.ca/TheStar/hockeystar/login.asp and last I checked they're doing ok but not as well as I would like, mind you I don't really have the time to make the moves that I want on a daily basis.

I have not played the Yahoo Fantasy Baseball Game or any other Yahoo Fantasy Sports for that matter. If anyone could fill me in on the essentials and other stuff I would really be interested in playing. Thanks in advance!



Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #269533
02/17/06 03:05 AM
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Yesssss more new blood!

Don J, I don't really know what I'm doing either, but I've found all of PL's "summaries" and pointers in this thread to be very helpful. You might want to read those first, and then see if you have any questions. If you DO still have questions though, don't ask me, because I will not know the answers.

Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #269534
02/17/06 03:38 AM
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Well....

There's a live draft in which everyone picks players to fill out their roster, as described above somewhere.

Every player not drafted becomes a Free Agent.

You can add a FA at any time by dropping a player currently on your roster.

You can also make trades with other league members.

You start of Day 1 of the season with a starting lineup filling as many or as few of your positions as you wish.

There's a limit of 162 games at each position, and since the season is roughly 180 days long, there will be days when you may not, or will not want, to have every position filled.

If your starting third baseman is A Rod, for example, and the Yankees are off, you probably won't want to substiute for him, since that will replace one game of A Rod with one game of someone else, and that game will count against your 162 game limit.

If you replace A Rod with a third baseman from your bench every time the Yanks don't play, you will wind up the season with something like 144 games of A Rod and 18 games of his substitute, but if you're patient and only have a third baseman in your lineup on days when A Rod is playing, then you get to have all 162 games you are allowed at 3B used by A Rod.

Of course, if A Rod stubs his toe or something, and misses an odd game or two because of an injury, then you would want to make those games up by using your substitute third baseman on a day when the Yankees aren't playing.

So, on a daily basis, you can take players out of your starting lineup and replace them with guys from your bench before the next days games start.

If you have a starter of lesser quality than a top superstar type (let's say at a weaker position, like second base, where not all of us will get a great player, as opposed to a much stronger position, like First Base), you can also consider things like pitching matchups, slumps and hot streaks, and ballpark effects in deciding who to play ot not play on a given day,

But you can't exceed 162 games at any position.

You also draft 6 starting pitchers.

Since the typical SP makes about 33-35 starts each year, and the limit that you can have is 162 starts, you can't (or shouldn't, anyway) leave all 6 of them in your starting lineup every day or you will reach your 162 game limit after they all make about their 27th start, which would be some time in August.

Not that that is necessarily bad, but it doesn't give you the option of deciding which pitching matchups you want to take advantage of and which you don't.

Like if you have starters from the NL, you may not want them to pitch at Coors, for example.

So you have to pick and choose carefully which SPs to use on which days against which teams.

All of the statistical info that you need to make these "match-up decisions" is available online from a number of sources.

If you're interested, I suggest that you read through the thread, paying particular attention to my longer, more recent posts.

Then if you are still interested ( ) drop me a PM and we can set up a time when we can take a look at the game site together (that will be helpful if you've never played one of these Yahoo games before. If you have, it's probably not necessary) and chat thru IM while we do so.

To take the tour you'll have to register for the game, but if you decide you don't want to play, you can remove yourself from the league before the season starts.

Once ythe season starts, though, you can't remove your team, but as I have indicated above, you can "manage" your team as much or as little as you wish.

There's also a 5 man Disabled List, which you can use when a player goes on the DL in real life


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #269535
02/17/06 09:47 AM
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I just wanted to add something about the disabled list, you can only put someone on it when they are on the DL in real life, but once they are on the DL (on your fantasy team) they stay there even if they are not injured. So in other words, even though A-rod comes back from missing 10 games you don't have to immediately put him in your lineup, he can stay on the DL until you feel he is ready to come back. But once you take him off the DL you have to drop someone from your team.

Plaw, would you like to turn all of that into proper english?


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #269536
02/17/06 10:34 AM
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No, I thought you put that well, DM.

At least I understood it.

The only thing I might add is an example, which usually helps.

Let's say you have a guy on the DL,, so you replace him with a Free Agent.

Now the FA goes on a hot streak, and you want to keep him in your starting lineup.

So even if the player on the DL comes back in real-life, you may want to keep him - stash him, so to speak - on your DL.

That gives you control over one more player in the league who presumably has value, so you are keeping him away from the other people in the league.


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #269537
02/17/06 06:28 PM
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Well I just joined the league and the name of my team is The Jasani Family. Hopefully all you sharks out there will go easy on a relative fantasy sport bird like myself although you should remember that I might be a newbie to fantasy baseball and fantasy sports I am by no means a newbie to baseball and sports in general so once I get the hang of things around here you guys better watch out. :rolleyes: Well, I have been an avid Baseball fan since I was 4-years-old and I'm now 230 er...I mean 23 so let's just say I know what D.H. stands for.



Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #269538
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Welcome DJ.

I just hope you don't fall too far behind while you're getting the hang of things. :p

Anytime you want to take that tour, lemme know.


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #269539
02/17/06 07:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Don Jasani:
I mean 23 so let's just say I know what D.H. stands for.
Would that be designated hitter or double header?


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #269540
02/17/06 07:58 PM
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Yeah for sure P.L., and I don't mean to be rude or anything refusing your generous offer for the time being, but the best way for me to learn these kind of things (most things actually) is to explore them myself and then when I need help to seek assistance from the many, many people who are more experienced than myself I do so. Thanks again bro, and I look forward to an exciting, entertaining season!



Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #269541
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Well, as long as you understand how the draft works and the relative importance of hitters, SPs, and RPs relative to each other....

And, how to manage the 162 game maximum at each position....

And, how to manage a team with 6 SPs and only 162 starts allowed among them....

You can't get into too much trouble.

Any questions, just post 'em.

As long as they don't get too specific about strategy, or into specific player evaluation, that is.


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #269542
02/17/06 11:22 PM
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BTW, Tony Mosrite....

The same invitation is extended to you that I mentioned to Don Jasani.

If you'd like a "guided tour" of the site, drop me a PM and we'll set someting up.

I think I can speak for the veterans of this type of game - JG, DMC, and Myself - and say that we would prefer to see the scores in this game reflect our abilities to rate the players and our managing strategy, and have it affected as little as possible by mistakes that people may make at the beginning because they're not 100% sure how the mechanics of the game work, or the really obvious basic strategy stuff that you'll figure out on your own after a few days of playing anyway.


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #269543
02/18/06 11:58 PM
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well thanks plaw I might PM you anytime soon or later. but the fact is that I finally did read this whole thread and I think I understood "what's going on". I really don't care about that statistic discussion (because I know you will come up with the most realistic, fair system), and I can attend the draft "any day of the fuckin' week". specially at night and not on the weekend. I think we should set the order of the draft a few days before the actual draft, too.


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #269544
02/19/06 06:29 AM
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Ahh,.... Mr. DNP TM himself...!



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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #269545
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This is the perfect game for him.

He can ignore his team for weeks a time.


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