I'm drafting first, called it! :p

Um....I don't think think that's exactly what we had in mind..... :rolleyes:

The way these drafts work, BTW, is what I think they call the "snake method".

If there are 8 people in the league, the person who picks 8th starts the next round, so he gets the 8th and 9th picks, and the person who picked first gets the 1st and 16th picks.

Then he starts the next round and gts the 17th pick, but doesn't pick again until the 32nd pick.

So say there are 8 people in the game, the advantage of going first would obviously be position but the advantage of going eighth would be that you get two picks before anyone else does right?

Here's a chart for the first 20 rounds, assuming 8 people in the league:

Clearer, but I guess I'll go through a bit of a baptism by fire when I actually draft...should be fun though...

Right. But then you have to wait 14 more picks before you get two more

And depending on how "spread out" - for lack of a better term - the quality may be....

For example, if the first 9 players are rated fairly close together, and then there's a significant drop-off between 9 and 10, it might be better to draft 8th than 1st.

You joined, TM? You're the "Bedroom Bombers"?

PLEASE NOTE:

I changed the stat categories for hitters.

Rather than have "Total Bases" count for 1 point for each base, I eliminated that category entirely, and created four new ones:

Singles (1B): 1 point each
Doubles (2B): 2 points each
Triples (3B): 3 points each
Homers (HR): 4 points each

This does not change the scoring system in any way, but it does give us a more detailed breakdown of how each player earned their points last year and is earning them this year.

(Finally Catching a Breather)

Hey Everybody,
Just wanted to say a big hello to everyone! I'm sorry I haven't been around, but contrary to what you might think, it hasn't been all wedding plans that's been keeping me busy. Actually, work has been keeping me busy - I mean really busy. As in, 16-hours-a-day to all-nighters busy, including weekends. On January 30th, my client announced the following settlement that I've been working on. In addition, some of you may know that I've been working on Senate asbestos legislation for the last three years. Well, it really heated up in the last two months - you may have seen some coverage in your newspapers. I've had a vacation cancelled and wedding planning delayed. I'm very exhausted.

I just wanted to say that I miss you all and I hope to be around more.

Anything I should catch up on?

DB,DB....all work and no play my friend.

Congrats on all your hard work though. There might be light at the end of the tunnel. Thanks for popping in. Plaw can now cancel his APB.

Plenty.

But most importantly.....

1- Get yourself signed up in this game.
2- Make sure the draft date and time work for you.
3- Carefully read my last lengthy post in this thread - the one that goes into all the detail about the league configuration, scoring system, etc. Since I believe that you are the only one who has played this type of game before (in baseball, at least), I would appreciate any feedback you might have.

And please, no excuses about wedding plans, or being too busy with work, or any of that kind of stuff.

You are fully expected by all concerned to play, and none of us are prepared to stand for your not participating.

WOO-HOO !!

DB is in the game!!

Now if someone can just figure out a way to get that MOAAFS guy back in here, we'd have the strongest start-to-finish Gangster BB Fantasy Sports Game field in Gangster BB Fantasy Sports Game history.

OMG I think I'm gonna cry! Copy-and-pasted, mass-produced messages aside, we missed you, DB!

It's looking good, guys... I just looked at the list of everyone who's playing. It looks exciting, except for one very conspicuous absence-- Damn you GIGI where are you!!

Ah what the hell, I'll join.

The Animal House is my team.

Now that's the competitive spirit we've been looking for! :rolleyes:

Have you played this type of game before, DA?

As long as you understand how the draft works and the relative importance of hitters, SPs, and RPs relative to each other....

And, how to manage the 162 game maximum at each position....

And, how to manage a team with 6 SPs and only 162 starts allowed among them....

You can't get into too much trouble.

Any questions, just post 'em.

If you'd like a "tour" of the site, let me know.

And read over that last long post of mine Summary: Where We Stand in the middle of page 3.

Now that's the competitive spirit we've been looking for! :rolleyes: [/b][/quote]The more the merrier, I always say.

If anyone drops out in the middle, at least we will have had the advantage of the fact that the player pool was made smaller at the outset, and the game therefore required more skill for the serious players left.

And there won't be any dispersal drafts, or disbanding of teams, or putting a load of stars on waivers all at the same time or anything.

The format of this game allows someone to take part in the draft, and with the right mix of a lot of luck and skill they could set their lineup on opening day and forget it for the whole season and still conceivably win.

Not at all likely, of course, but possible.

But you want to play this like real life, don't you?

In real life, managers don't quit because they've become disinterested, or cuz they're losing, or cuz they don't have the time.... without being replaced.

:p

So someone snags A-Rod or Poohole or whomever, then just stops playing in May. You have no problem with that? That 10 other people who would've loved to have had either of them now have to spend an entire season with them not even a factor in the equation??

That if those players (and others) were taken out of our game could effect the pitching stats, makes no difference to you? If your SP got creamed by A-Rod, but who was then taken out of the game because a manager quit, and I didn't have to face him - you have no problem with?

I don't know....

I stated my opinion before about (lack of) team management....

I LOVE the draft idea and all... but I cannot stand finishing a season with less teams that we started with. So you guys who are doing this for the first time, you better really think about what your commitment is, from April 'til October. Because those who didn't finish it out last year, will not likely be invited to play next year.

Well, obviously I'd prefer that everyone play all season and manage their teams to the utmost of their ability.

But if someone picked Pujols and then stopped playing, all of us are affected by that equally.

None of us had the chance to get him in the first place, and it's like he never existed.

Someone is misunderstanding someone here. I'm just not sure who.

If Pujols manager stops playing, how is Pujols taken out of the game so that someone else's SP doesn't face him?

Pujols is still in the majors, and if he kills my SP while Don Andrew, say, is actively participating in the game, and then three months later, after DA has stopped participating and Pujols kills your SP, how has one of us had an advantage or disadvantage over the other?

Your SP still has to face Pujols, and those stats count whether DA is still participating or not.
Where did I say that would happen?

(NB: Don't be offended, DA. I just picked you because I had to pick someone, and I wanted an example of someone that hadn't played one of these games with us before)

Nit-picking.

It's not possible that Pujols gets injured and is out for a week or two, so the manager benched him, but then stops playing?

Where did i say that would happen? [/b][/quote]When someone states an opinion, it doesn't necessary have something to do with you. :p

(Man, why am I just totally in Pick On Plaw mode?? )

Oh., OK.....that could happen. Fair point.

Lemme give it some thought.

I just wanted to quote that before you deleted it.

Anyway - after all our past experiences... all I would LOVE to have is to go for a full season without some wimp asses quitting in the middle. And I know it doesn't matter in the salary cap games so much, but when it happens in a draft game, it really pisses me off.

But at least this won't be head-to-head (which I also love, but don't trust anymore) where I really would love to hurt someone for quitting.

OK...how's this:

As in Basketball, I'll be watching this game very closely.

I expect to be posting the scores every day the same way I do in B. Ball, and I'll notice right away when a manager stops participating, and when a player who was injured and benched prior to his manager's stopping playing is now playing again, because stats will now be showing up for him every day.

So what I'll do in that case is take over managing that team myself, but I'll post all the changes that I make, so if anyone disagrees they'll have the chance to voice their opinion.

So, in effect, the entire league will be managing his team, not just myself.

At worst, maybe a Pujols will be back one or two days before I realize that he's back and fail to puut him back in as a starter, but that could happen even if his manager is actively participating. Maybe he just wasn't around for a day or two.

I'm not wild about that solution - it will be areal pain managing the pitching staff - so I'll give it some more thought.

But on the other hand, a league with only 5-6 teams doesn't seem like it would be too interesting, unless we ran it like basketball, using two guys every day at each position, which would force us to dig deeper into the player pool during the draft.

I hadn't thought about the problem it would cause if a manager stopped playing in them middle of the season because while I realized that it could happen, I didn't think there would be any problem if it did

I mean, I didn't think that if a manager stopped playing it could affect anyone else's scores, until you presented your Pujols-injured scenario.

My compliments on that one.

So we need to have a way of dealing with the problem if it happens.

But whatever we decide, you can be sure that we'll decide it before the season starts.

You keep saying how you can "set it and forget it", which, to me, is the antithesis of managing a fantasy team.

Anyway - I just wish for once it didn't come down to having the commish work an inactive team, or, ignoring the entire roster of a drafted team that was given up on.

I'm sure there are legit reasons why someone cannot continue to participate, and that's not my beef. I just want to be sure that new managers know what's entailed and expected, and that they're still willing to commit to actually play.

Yeah, I know this is just "the Net" and you're just talking to your computer... but there ARE real people depending on your actions. What you do effects them, and the group as a whole.

I just wanna make the newcomers realize that. But trust me, there's nothing more that I want than to get more serious players, so, I hope this is a moot point!

All true, and I agree 100%.

But we still have to decide what to do if it happens.

As far as the SIAFI aspect goes, I figured a game like this is the best of both worlds.

You're not locked in to changing your team every single damn day of your life like in Salary Cap, to the point where it becomes a chore and you have to start making decisions about vacations based on whether or not you'll have computer access wherever you go and if you miss even one day in a game with a bunch of screwballs like us you could be done for the season.

On the other hand, with this game, if you SIAFI, you're pretty much done also. Even if none of your regulars miss a single game, you still have to manage your pitching staff to maximize your results.

Yet, I figured, you could afford to miss a day or two or a few days here and there without killing yourself.

PLUS, with Yahoo you can set your team far ahead in advance if you want to, so you can SIAFI but with day to day variations.

And, best of all, because our game isn't head-to-head or roto, your actions don't affect the other players.

Then you burst my bubble with your example about Pujols.

Well, unless I or someone else comes up with a better way of handling the situation, I'm gonna do what I wrote before if it should become necessary.

Well, you're certainly correct in that you don't have to do something every single day. And that's great, even tho I still look it over every day. (Not that I have to in B-Ball any more, being in last place since Week 2 and all.)

I really don't care how it's handled -- or really, if it's ever handled -- I just wanted newbies to this to make sure they knew what their commitment should be. Because, obviously, it's not the end of the world if someone wusses out. :p

Wait a minute.

No, it's not. What am I thinking?

If Pujols gets injured and benched by DA, and DA doesn't put him back in his lineup because DA dropped out of the game, whatever pounding or not pounding of your SP or mine Pujols subsequently does still counts against our SP whether DA has him in the lineup or not.

The real Pujols is playing, so whatever he does to a SP counts, right?

So if someone drops out in the middle, he only affects himself, like I thought in the first place.

touche!

You're right. I keep thinking, for some reason, that the league is exclusive. (or would that be inclusive?)

In any event, good one!

But still......... :p