F' him. I hate the Braves to begin with. I don't know why I even wasted a pick on him. Other than Oswalt, my entire staff stinks so far.

From The Department Of Useless Statistics

I promised you guys some stuff from time to time that you can't get from Yahoo.

Such as......

Leaders in Batting Average, Home Runs, and RBIs

Keep in mind that the statistics below are based on a player's performance when he was used in your starting lineup. Points the player earned when on your becnh or prior to his joining your team are not included.

Your RPs have been OK.

And I love Hernandez.....I woulda picked him myself if I had the chance.

Wowwwwwww. A whole point, huh? And ahead of Letizia of all people, in baseball!!! That's not easy to do. As anyone who played with me last year will tell you, other than the Dodgers, and people who used to be on the Dodgers, I barely know who anyone is.

At least you cleared out my basement. Now I can get comfy. If I find any CDs or anything you left behind, I'll let you know. :p

is it safe to assume that Don Jasani has Carlos Villanueva on his team

Lol! Lol! Letizia I think I left behind a couple of Nirvana and Beatle CDs and there might be some condom wrappers lying around and...well, maybe you should just move. :p

D.M.C. "Carlos Villanueva?" What is that, some sort of amalgamation of Carlos Delgado/Beltran/Brazilian soccer star Roberto Carlos/and Charlie Villanueva of The Toronto Raptors?! Such a player would be highly praised for his offensive and defensive skills, not to mention, his ability to play three sports (Baseball, Soccer and Basketball) at such a high level. :p

He's just a pitcher on the brewers.......but sadly he's not praised and won't be winning any awards this year, sorta like.....

Yikes, maybe I will.

I don't know about Villanueva, but I'll tell you guys the story of ex-Met Don (No relation to the Raptors Chris) Bosch, since all of you guys (except for SC, and maybe JL 'cuz he's such a big Mets fan) are too young to remember him.

He was a 5'10" 160 lb. centerfielder who the Mets acquired from the Pirates in a pre-1967 season trade for pitcher Dennis Ribant.

Ribant was 25 years old and coming off of a terrific 11-9, 3.20 E.R.A. season for the 9th place 66-95 NY Mets.

Bosch, meanwhile, was billed as "The next Richie Ashburn", a similarly built original 1962 Met who they picked up in the expansion draft after a great career with the Phillies, who were willing to let him go only because he was 35 - considered dangerously old and potentially over-the-hill for a baseball player back then.

Communications, scouting, media reports, etc. not being what they are today, few NY sportswriters had ever seen Bosch play, much less even heard of him, and were literally drooling all winter, writing articles and eagerly awaiting spring training and his first appearance in a Mets uniform.

When he finally got here it turned out that he was shorter than his listed 5'10", and he couldn't catch the ball because everything that was hit his way went over his head.

And because he wieghed far less than his supposed 160 lbs., he didn't have any power either, which wouldn't have been so bad if he could hit for average, except he couldn't do that, either.

Well, you may say to yourself.....5'10", at least he'll draw a lot of walks and make a good leadoff man.

Not exactly, I'm afraid. Despite his stature, guy almost never walked (once every 15 ABs or so).

Speed you say? He stole 4 bases in 146 major league games, but that's understandable of course, since he was almost never on base.

So basically he was useless, and how the writers screamed that the Mets were taken to the cleaners on the deal.

Bosch wound up playing small parts of two seasons for the Mets, 94 games, hitting .157 in 204 at bats beofre being shipped off, ironically enough, to the Canadien Expos for cash.

But there's a happy footnote to the story for Mets fans.

In the original deal, the Mets also acquired Don Cardwell from the Pirates, a 30-year old journeyman starting pitcher.

Cardwell pitched for the Mets for three seasons, and capped it off by playing a key role as 5th starter - in a day when the Mets were the first and just about only team to employ a five-man starting rotation - for the 1969 World Champion Mets, helping to keep the pressure off and the young arms of Seaver, Koosman, Gentry, and McAndrew, fresh.

nice story

now...

[STUPID_QUESTION] in the bottom of the "My Team" page, in the "Maximum Games & Innings" link, my projected number of games at every position is below 162. does that mean I'll be wasting a game if I keep an empty position? 'cause I just "used" a 1 AB game from the Catcher position today... [/STUPID_QUESTION]

If the guy appears in the game, even as a pinch hitter with one AB, it counts towards the 162 you're allowed.

That's about all I can tell you without explaining how to "manage" the "162 game maximum at each position", which is another element of the strategy in this game.

I would hope that Zito and Hernandez turn it around sooner or later. Duke is pitching great tonight....So far.

....and Mr. Putz got me 10 points this afternoon.

Do you remember Don Bosch, JL?

what I mean is: since the "projected" number of games is already under the maximum, does that mean I don't have to care about it anymore?
even if I keep a full team everyday until the end of the season, I won't be over 162?

that's what I thought the projection meant, but I don't think I could be under the maximum this early.

Plaw, you should be a sports announcer or something. I enjoyed that.

(Look at me...I'm having fun in threads besides BBC and the Ladies' Thread. )

No. It would take much more than a .157 batting average for me to remember a player from when I was 2 years old.

I figured you were a semi-historian of the Mets.

That deal for Bosch was real big news at the time.

You hadda ask.....

It's an estimate, nothing more.

It's based on the number of days gone in the season, the average number of games the teams have played, the rate at which you are working towrds your 162 game max, etc.

In other words, if you choose to have no catcher for the next few days, the estimate will show that you are way below the pace. If you have two catchers on your roster and fill in a catcher every day in your starting lineup, then the projection will show you way ahead, because you will hit 162 games after 162 days, and the season is 180 days long.

If I were you, I would ignore it completely.

AFAIC, the "estimate" is a complete waste.

They tell you EXACTLY how many games you have reamining at each position.

Go by that.

(PS.....Don't be offended that I was breaking your balls about asking, TM. It's just that JG and I had a whole long discussion about the very same thing earlier today in the Yahoo basketball thread.)

P.L. you say this Don Bosch guy (no offense to Met fans I've just never heard of him) was 5 10 and about a buck sixty or so. Well, gee whiz, I wonder why he didn't work out and have a brilliant career. :rolleyes: I mean, seriously though, I'm about 6ft. and about 175/180 lbs. or so, and although I can play, I'm not exactly the starting Centre Fielder for The Blue Jays or anything. However, Mr. Ricciardi if you do come across gangsterbb, just give me a shot... :p Seriously though, why would The Met Baseball people ok that deal? Even with Cardwell as the silver lining, it just doesn't add up. Such a deal would never fly today I think.

I did once aspire to being a sportswriter.

Anyway, thanks. Glad you enjoyed the Don Bosch story.

Cardwell was just a throw-in who happened to work out, but he has a place in baseball history as the first ever "fifth starter".

You're right about today.

With the improved scouting and everything, there's no way a deal like this could have been made today. Fortunately for the Mets, though, after Ribant left the team he never amounted to much of anything either, so the whole deal was basically a wash except for what the Mets got out of Cardwell.

You just reminded me of my boys' announcers - both radio (Milo Hamilton and Alan Ashby), as well as TV (Bill Brown and Jim Deshaies) - they're always giving interesting tidbits about baseball, particular players, and such - I always enjoy that. They crack me up, because they'll go completely off-topic from the game with these memories of the past, but it's always fun to hear what they have to say.

I've actually taken sportswriting into consideration as a career possibility. I've still got much to learn about baseball - writing, too - before I would consider myself qualified, but it would be a combination of two things I love.

This is gonna sound totally fake after two people in this thread having already said the same, but I would just be lying to you guys if I told you that I hadn't thought about several careers in Sports (in some sort of capacity) as a way to earn a buck. Getting paid to write about Baseball, Soccer, Hockey, Basketball or Football is not really work. I do it for free, but to get money for it, not to mention, recognition, respect, and a place in the history of your Sport, well that my friends, is just priceless.

just to make some movement:

- looking at our draft now, what was your biggest mistake?

I was just looking at it, and now I'm wondering how in earth did I come up with the brilliant idea of getting Chone Figgins in the first pick of round 4 :rolleyes: there were still thousands of 2B and SS left and I could've chosen Travis Hafner, Andruw Jones, Carlos Delgado or Brad Lidge which would all have been better than him of course, is still too early in the season, so I'll hope Figgins puts an end to this slump

A 58 point night for me, not too bad for a "Homer." :rolleyes: :p

My worst picks?? Well, let's see here. My entire pitching staff except for Martinez, Kazmir and Ray. Manny Ramirez has been a big disappointment so far this season, but the campaign is still very young and I'm pretty sure that he'll have another 35/100 season at the very least. Ichiro Suzuki has been alright for me so far I guess, but he hasn't been producing the way I thought he would. Same with him though, he'll get his 200 hits and most likely bat over .300 by the time Oct. rolls around. Coco Crisp has been about as useful to me as his namesake seeing as how I don't really eat a lot of that particular cereal. Nothing against cococrisp cereal and maybe comparing cococrisp cereal to Coco Crisp the ball player would be insulting to cococrisp cereal, I mean...he's been on the D.L. for what? three years now? Also, Magglio Ordonez has not produced as well as I thought he would, but I think he and the Tigers will make things interesting in The Central this season.

Yesterday was highlighted by the two best (by far) starting pitching performances of the season - TH's John Smoltz' complete game shutout, good for 39 points, and CC's John Patterson's 13-strikeout 2-hitter, which racked up a 38.

The league's best (again, by far) pitching day - 11 starts, 186 points, 16.91 FPPG, brought our overall average (take note here, JG) in pitching starts up by almost exactly one full point, increasing our FPPG in starts from 5.56 to 6.57

In the last two days, AAMOF, we've had 24 starts and scored 299 points, an average of 12.46 FPPG, which is a lot more indicitive of what our average will eventually look like, I think.


Saturday Scores
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When Allowing 6 Runs In A Game

That's an easy one for me, TM, considering that my #1 pick, Johann Santana, is at -6 so far. :rolleyes:

My #2, Miguel Tejeda, has been nothing special either, but aside from those two I'm very satisfied with the performances of my other early picks.

Late round picks, of course, are much more of a crapshoot.

In our Yahoo Basketball Game we drafted 17 players each in our 6-man league, and by mid-season more than half of the guys we drafted in the late rounds had been cut and replaced by free agents.

does anyone wants to trade for Jason Giambi?? 'cause I'm not using his points anyway...

JL's turn now, with Isringhausen and his -28.

I'm gonna do the work and see how often this happened last year.

At this rate this year it looks like it's gonna happen almost 100 times, which can't be how often it happened last year. [/b][/quote]add one more. fuckin' Huston Street. terrible day for me

Pretty decent day for me, 43 fan points and no negatives...Coco Crisp may want to find a new occupation. I don't know how long it takes to come back from a broken finger or whatever the hell is wrong with him, but when he does come back, he better make with the bacon cuz The Red Sox just gave him a fat contract and more importantly, he's on my team.

I hope they fix the roster page and let me have the option to bench my pitchers, 'cause one of them is going to Coors tomorrow. although Coors Field has been a pitcher's park so far in the season ( ), I'd like to have the option!