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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/09/06 09:31 PM
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I promised you guys something on relief pitching, and I know you've been eagerly waiting..... Keep in mind that everyone had a game or two where by hook or by crook they managed to have a guy who got clobbered on their bench. Anway, the criteria here is a blown save and a loss. Qualls CC 4-08 -28
Isringhausen DJ 4-09 -28
Street TM 4-16 -27
Cordero DA 4-19 -27
Lidge CC 4-24 -26
Jenks PL 5-05 -23
Linebrink JG 4-20 -22
Reitsma PL 4-09 -20
Politte DB 4-08 -19
Valverde PL 4-17 -17
Cordero DA 4-11 -17
Guadardo LZ 4-17 -16
Lidge CC 5-05 -16
Rivera DB 4-15 -15
Rodney JG 5-9 -13
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/09/06 10:03 PM
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and now, after a month and a few days of waiting, I present you thee worst pitching performance of all:
IP H R ER BB SO
Millwood 1.1 9 9 9 1 0
-34 or -28 fan pts if the Rangers bounce back from 0-10. 
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/10/06 12:56 AM
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How does this make any sense?? IP W L OUT H ER BB K PTS
SP Carpenter 7 21 4 1 6 6 15
RP Rodney 2 1 6 3 2 1 3 -13
Rodney x3 6 18 9 6 3 9
So.... 2 ER in 2 innings, even tho Ks were much better, and BBs were much better... comparible IP/OUTs... You can't really assume x3 would be accurate, but still -- a 28 pts difference??? Someone wanna explain that to me, please.... :rolleyes:
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/10/06 02:55 AM
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Originally posted by Tony Mosrite: and now, after a month and a few days of waiting, I present you thee worst pitching performance of all:
IP H R ER BB SO
Millwood 1.1 9 9 9 1 0
-38, actually
ST W-L IPs H R ER BB SO
Millwood 1 L 1.1 9 9 9 1 0I think you forgot the +1 he gets for making the start - like getting points at an exam in school just for filling out the top part with your name and everything. Then -6 for taking the loss, and so on. But yeah....Congratulations.  That's the worst start of the season so far, and by a nice, healthy margin besides. Surpasses Bartolo Colon's -28 on April 9th by 10 points.
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/10/06 03:13 AM
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Originally posted by J Geoff: How does this make any sense??
IP W L OUT H ER BB K PTS
SP Carpenter 7 21 4 1 6 6 15
RP Rodney 2 1 6 3 2 1 3 -13
Rodney x3 6 18 9 6 3 9
Someone wanna explain that to me, please.... :rolleyes: I think the above may qualify as a whine; I'm not sure. :p  Anyway, here's the explanation: First of all, how are the IP/OUTS and ERs allowed comparable?  Carpenter pitched 7 innings and Rodney only 2. Carpenter allowed 1 earned run and Rodney allowed 2. More than three times as many IPs for Carpenter, half as many ERs allowed. Most importantly, though, you left out the -6 for the save opportunity (which was not offset by the +8 for the save), so the -13 includes that 6 points, and if you want to compare it exactly with Carpenter, figure it as a -7. I've already said that I think that a flaw in the scoring system is that it penalizes a RP twice in these situations: -6 for the loss and -6 for the blown save (see my chart above). I think that a pitcher - a "closer", who is theoretically the top guy on his team at that job, not a #4 or #5 starter, for example - who comes into a game with a lead to protect, in a game where his team has kinda mentally put the game into the win column already, who proceeds to turn the win into a loss has done a lot more damage to his team than when a #5 starter loses the game (I know, a loss is a loss, but stil.....). But that said, I do think -as the chart shows - that the negative score in those cases is a little disproportionate in relation to the act, and I'd likr to figure out a way to adjust it for next season so that the guy is not charged a -12 because he had a blown save and a loss.
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/10/06 03:21 AM
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J Geoff
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Originally posted by plawrence: First of all, how are the IP/OUTS comparable?
Carpenter pitched 7 innings and Rodney only 2.
 I was comparing Carp's start with the other schmuck's RP x3 -- which was 1 IP different (I didn't need to go to decimal places, did I? :p ) Edit: You edited your post after I quoted it. :p My point being... who cares about 2 ER in 2 IP -- one could get a save easily and often in that case, if ONLY the SP had done well. My RP gave up 2 ER (big whooop!), yet, the negative points -- to me -- are disproportionate to an almost comparible start.... (Giving up 2 ER in 2 IP does NOT mean he'd've given up 2 ER EVERY 2 IP! It's a smaller sample!)
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/10/06 03:40 AM
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Those 2 ER, though, blew the save and got him the loss.
It's a lot more important 2 runs than a starter who gives up two runs in the first inning and has his team trailing 2-0.
Carpenter pitched well enough to give his team a great chance to win.
Rodney took a game that was practically won and turned it into a loss.
You're just looking at IPs and ERs allowed.
But, as I said....
I would agree that the RP is "overly-penalized" with the -6 for the blown save and the -6 for the loss.
6 of Rodney's -13 are from the BS.
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/10/06 05:51 AM
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Tuesday Scores
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DJ 8 38 2 45 2 13 96
DB 9 47 2 13 2 17 77
JG 9 26 3 52 1 -13 65
LZ 8 38 1 20 1 -7 51
PL 9 23 1 19 2 4 46
JL 9 15 1 29 0 0 44
CC 9 31 1 -9 2 4 26
DA 8 15 0 0 0 0 15
TM 9 27 1 -38 3 -23 -34
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PL^ 284 1071 40 365 73 139 1575
JL 289 1001 44 342 75 230 1573
JG^ 292 899 40 407 65 174 1480
TM 260 933 35 345 66 155 1433
DJ^ 272 997 36 356 27 59 1412
CC 282 1016 48 338 65 42 1396
DB 286 1193 35 -48 75 124 1269
LZ^ 268 903 23 300 37 50 1253
DA 237 856 31 285 58 89 1230Schmidt JG 36 Millwood TM -38 Wheeler TM -19 Rodney JG -13
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/10/06 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by Don Jasani:
5/9!!! Which means?
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/10/06 07:51 PM
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Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
His place in the standings. Ahhhhh.....Of course. Why didn't I think of that?  He could be dangerous if he actually played. :rolleyes:
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/11/06 07:07 AM
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Wednesday Scores
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JG 9 34 1 25 3 14 73
JL 9 55 0 0 3 14 69
DA 7 34 2 11 3 10 56
DJ 8 15 1 33 1 6 54
LZ 8 22 1 13 2 8 43
DB 9 39 1 -10 3 12 41
PL 8 27 0 0 3 -4 23
CC 7 29 0 0 1 -8 21
TM 9 38 2 -30 0 0 8
OPU OPTS SPU SPTS RPU RPTS Total
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JL^ 298 1056 44 342 78 244 1642
PL 292 1098 40 365 76 135 1598
JG 301 933 41 432 68 188 1553
DJ^ 280 1012 37 389 28 65 1466
TM 269 971 37 315 66 155 1441
CC 289 1045 48 338 66 34 1417
DB 295 1232 36 -58 78 136 1310
LZ 276 925 24 313 39 58 1296
DA 244 890 33 296 61 99 1285Kazmir DJ 33 Cabrera DA 15
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/11/06 11:25 AM
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Well, I don't think that is a viable long term strategy (except maybe for DB :p ), but on the other hand I believe that in your last 9 appearances by your starting pitchers you are -37. As far as whether or not the game "sucks", seriuosly..... I'm enjoying it. I think there are certain elements of strategy which make it a lot more interesting than the Salary Cap Game.
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/11/06 05:01 PM
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From The Department Of Useless Statistics Team Statistics SP SP RP RP TOT
HR RBI AVG SPU W-L E.R.A. W-L Sv-Op E.R.A. E.R.A
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JL 46 170 .266 44 20-14 4.20 6-1 27-33 2.39 3.77
PL 61 209 .287 40 16-14 4.22 3-6 22-25 3.44 4.01
JG 32 159 .290 41 12-12 3.32 8-5 9-14 2.27 3.09
TM 45 156 .280 37 14-14 4.30 3-4 16-18 2.93 3.99
DJ 52 162 .303 37 20-7 4.00 2-2 18-20 3.16 3.93
CC 47 189 .288 48 23-16 4.52 3-4 11-16 5.79 4.76
DB 71 220 .287 36 8-19 6.58 2-6 30-32 3.63 5.69
DA 36 148 .298 33 17-9 4.14 5-2 25-34 3.77 4.06
LZ 41 144 .267 24 11-4 2.85 1-3 18-22 3.20 2.92The most striking stat here is DB's starting pitcher's record of 8-19 and 6.58 E.R.A.
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/11/06 06:50 PM
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In all seriousness..... If you had tried to draft the worst 4th and 5th starters you could think of and proceeded to make free agent moves that dropped guys who were effective and added guys who were ineffective, I'd bet that by sheer luck and a well pitched game here and there you would have done better simply by accident. I find it truly amazing that you've done so poorly. Besides which, you are absolutlely ruining the starting pitcher's FPPG average for the entire league. :p Without your scores, it rises from 8.01 to 9.14  .
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/12/06 07:08 AM
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Thursday Scores
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TM 4 9 2 64 1 3 76
JL 8 31 0 0 1 4 35
DB 4 6 1 24 2 4 34
JG 5 18 0 0 2 10 28
DA 6 24 1 3 0 0 27
DJ 6 21 0 0 0 0 21
CC 6 25 2 -9 2 -1 15
LZ 4 6 0 0 0 0 6
PL 4 6 0 0 1 -3 3
OPU OPTS SPU SPTS RPU RPTS Total
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JL 306 1087 44 342 79 248 1677
PL 296 1104 40 365 77 132 1601
JG 306 951 41 432 70 198 1581
TM^ 273 980 39 379 67 158 1517
DJ 286 1033 37 389 28 65 1487
CC 295 1070 50 329 68 33 1432
DB 299 1238 37 -34 80 140 1344
DA 250 914 34 299 61 99 1312
LZ 280 931 24 313 39 58 1302Peavy TM 38 Willis CC -30
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/13/06 07:40 AM
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No update from Yahoo yet, as of this moment. :rolleyes: Yesterday, unofficially: JL 1677 51 1728
PL 1601 52 1653
JG 1581 45 1626
TM 1517 70 1587
DJ 1487 3 1490
CC 1432 55 1487
DB 1344 38 1382
DA 1312 31 1343
LZ 1302 8 1310 Smoltz 34 Santana 30 [Edit: Still no update from Yahoo, and I gotta go; Will update with the offical scores later, I guess; Waiver order is the same as yesterday's, (not that that makes any difference.....) first time we had no movement in the standings in a while.]
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/13/06 09:31 PM
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A "Hat Trick"  .
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/13/06 10:09 PM
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Friday Scores
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TM 9 34 1 34 1 2 70
CC 9 29 3 23 1 4 56
PL 8 26 1 30 1 -4 52
JL 9 36 1 5 1 10 51
JG 9 25 1 21 1 -1 45
DB 9 32 0 0 2 6 38
DA 9 27 0 0 1 4 31
LZ 7 11 1 -3 0 0 8
DJ 8 18 1 -22 2 7 3
OPU OPTS SPU SPTS RPU RPTS Total
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JL 315 1123 45 347 80 258 1728
PL 304 1130 41 395 78 128 1653
JG 315 976 42 453 71 197 1626
TM 282 1014 40 413 68 160 1587
DJ 294 1051 38 367 30 72 1487
CC 304 1099 53 352 69 37 1488
DB 308 1270 37 -34 82 146 1382
DA 259 941 34 299 62 103 1343
LZ 287 942 25 310 39 58 1310Smoltz 34 Santana 30 Garland -22
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/14/06 02:36 AM
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Originally posted by Just Lou:
4 SP and 3 RP for a grand total of -7 points tonight. :rolleyes: Try RP Cordero who pitched .2 inning for -29. :rolleyes: :p 
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/14/06 03:12 AM
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I only got semi-burned, I guess, with Sanchez and his -16.
-29 sounds like the record so far.
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